| August 12th, 2005 10:57 AM |
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| Maxlugar |
[quote]Jumacfly wrote:
Macky!
have you delete your gentle post about...me??
i m sad cuz I wanted to answer!!!
please post it again and let's drink to us!!
It is as gentle as ever in the Chicago sticky thread.
I will watch Bell Dujour with Katherine Denuve tonight.
Without subtitles!
That's how strong my love is...
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| August 12th, 2005 10:59 AM |
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| Jumacfly |
quote:
Maxlugar wrote:
[quote]Jumacfly wrote:
Macky!
have you delete your gentle post about...me??
i m sad cuz I wanted to answer!!!
please post it again and let's drink to us!!
It is as gentle as ever in the Chicago sticky thread.
I will watch Bell Dujour with Katherine Denuve tonight.
Without subtitles!
That's how strong my love is...
Belle de Jour with Cahterine deneuve...I was in love with her when I was a child... |
| August 12th, 2005 11:01 AM |
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| Maxlugar |
[quote]Jumacfly wrote:
Belle de Jour with Cahterine deneuve...I was in love with her when I was a child...
A bored housewife goes whorein'. Loved it!
She's STILL gorgeous.
She's held up much better than that Bianca! |
| August 12th, 2005 11:10 AM |
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| Jumacfly |
quote:
Maxlugar wrote:
[quote]Jumacfly wrote:
Belle de Jour with Cahterine deneuve...I was in love with her when I was a child...
A bored housewife goes whorein'. Loved it!
She's STILL gorgeous.
She's held up much better than that Bianca!
yes she is still very glam' 
try "Fanny Ardant" on google "pictures", another beautiful french actress...:o |
| August 12th, 2005 11:17 AM |
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| Zulu Fun Mix |
Mel Belli: No, Iraq is only *now* a classical failed state. It wasn't a failed state under Saddam. It was an evil state, but actually quite an effective one. The US destruction of this state is the chief reason we now have "neo-terror" breaking out all over the place.
Maxlugar: Germany and Japan are not like Iraq, my friend. In the 1920s, Weimar Germany and Taisho Japan were both budding democracies. They didn't survive the Depression, but there were still plenty of German and Japanese liberals around in the late '40s to bring back to power to build on the past. Very few such people exist in Iraq. The ones there now had to be imported from Detroit. Iraq will fail because the Germany/Japan analogy is flawed. If the neo-cons try to apply their lunatic vision to Iran next, we're all going to be truly fucked, with massive battle deaths, wild and wooly terrorism, uncontrollable budget deficits, and black-hole-collapsing international prestige. |
| August 12th, 2005 11:18 AM |
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| Maxlugar |
[quote]Jumacfly wrote:
yes she is still very glam'
try "Fanny Ardant" on google "pictures", another beautiful french actress...:o
I think Sophie Marceau is France's greatest gift to the world.
I want to thank you on behalf of you country, JuMACKY!
THANK YOU!
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| August 12th, 2005 11:20 AM |
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| glencar |
Mathjis, maxy answered your silly assertion that the USA invaded Iraq for oil. As for MW's assertion that anyone on this board(besides USFan) said that Jagger didn't have the right to comment on Iraq/Bush/the neocons, I don't recall that I certainly didn't. Mick himself alluded to the idea that he should step gingerly into that area in a TV interview last night.
I can't wait for Iraq to become like America so all this fighting on the board ends. Besides mathjis, I like most everyone else & this has gotten really old.
PS The interview to which I referred also had bits with the 3 other main players. Charlie's portion was the funniest. He was asked if he looked forward to touring when he was in his cancer treatment & he blurted out no, he was scared of his mortality. |
| August 12th, 2005 11:22 AM |
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| glencar |
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Zulu Fun Mix wrote:
Mel Belli: No, Iraq is only *now* a classical failed state. It wasn't a failed state under Saddam. It was an evil state, but actually quite an effective one. The US destruction of this state is the chief reason we now have "neo-terror" breaking out all over the place.
Maxlugar: Germany and Japan are not like Iraq, my friend. In the 1920s, Weimar Germany and Taisho Japan were both budding democracies. They didn't survive the Depression, but there were still plenty of German and Japanese liberals around in the late '40s to bring back to power to build on the past. Very few such people exist in Iraq. The ones there now had to be imported from Detroit. Iraq will fail because the Germany/Japan analogy is flawed. If the neo-cons try to apply their lunatic vision to Iran next, we're all going to be truly fucked, with massive battle deaths, wild and wooly terrorism, uncontrollable budget deficits, and black-hole-collapsing international prestige.
There's enough of a democratic movement in Iraq to take hold. As for Iran, I'd even join you in anti-war marches. That'd be crazy to invade there. |
| August 12th, 2005 11:24 AM |
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| Maxlugar |
[quote]Zulu Fun Mix wrote:
Maxlugar: Germany and Japan are not like Iraq, my friend. In the 1920s, Weimar Germany and Taisho Japan were both budding democracies. They didn't survive the Depression, but there were still plenty of German and Japanese liberals around in the late '40s to bring back to power to build on the past. Very few such people exist in Iraq. The ones there now had to be imported from Detroit. Iraq will fail because the Germany/Japan analogy is flawed. If the neo-cons try to apply their lunatic vision to Iran next, we're all going to be truly fucked, with massive battle deaths, wild and wooly terrorism, uncontrollable budget deficits, and black-hole-collapsing international prestige.
You should change your name to Zulu Sunshine Fun Mix!
We'll see what happens I guess.
I have hope. |
| August 12th, 2005 11:27 AM |
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| Maxlugar |
[quote]glencar wrote:
There's enough of a democratic movement in Iraq to take hold. As for Iran, I'd even join you in anti-war marches. That'd be crazy to invade there.
There's a huge pro American youth movement going on there.
They must be cultured appropriately. An invasion could turn them against us. But because of this pro American movement, we might not have to do anything.
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| August 12th, 2005 11:30 AM |
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| glencar |
quote:
Maxlugar wrote:
[quote]glencar wrote:
There's enough of a democratic movement in Iraq to take hold. As for Iran, I'd even join you in anti-war marches. That'd be crazy to invade there.
There's a huge pro American youth movement going on there.
They must be cultured appropriately. An invasion could turn them against us. But because of this pro American movement, we might not have to do anything.
Agreed. It'll atke another decade possibly but invading them would burden our military too much. And we'd ahve more Cindy Sheehan behind every bush. |
| August 12th, 2005 11:40 AM |
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| Maxlugar |
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glencar wrote:
Agreed. It'll atke another decade possibly but invading them would burden our military too much. And we'd ahve more Cindy Sheehan behind every bush.
Isreal will take out the reactors.
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| August 12th, 2005 11:49 AM |
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| sirmoonie |
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There's a huge pro American youth movement going on there.
I wish some of these pro-Americaning, Hezbollah-declaring, madras-attending Iranian utes would have a pow-wow with Mick Jagger. Put some learning into his wrinkled anti-American brain (combined age 62).
Alleged. Purported.
"Stay off the acid, Ronnie!" |
| August 12th, 2005 11:55 AM |
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| telecaster |
America invaded Iraq for oil, we all know that by now. I think it is quite weak to defend this by accusing the UN of not wanting to invade due to "selfish reasons". Your historical senses are failing then.
Mathijs
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Man Mathijs you are dumber than dirt. Where is all this oil the US took from Iraq? Show us. Show the board where the US took oil.
You can't because we didn't take any
You falsely accuse the US of invading for oil yet when Saddam for a fact stole billions of illegal oil money you have no problem with it. Bury your head on Saddam just keep blaming the US. No wonder why your type are getting flushed down and out all over the world.
But since it fits your socialist left wing wacko claims and sounds good to your lib friends in the coffee shop it must be true
If you ever have a fact get back to us because your emotional argument doesn't work outside of your little
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| August 12th, 2005 12:05 PM |
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| Joey |
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Maxlugar wrote:
Isreal ( sic ) will take out the reactors.
Yes , see Iraq , circa 1981
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| August 12th, 2005 12:05 PM |
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| Maxlugar |
[quote]telecaster wrote:
But since it fits your socialist left wing wacko claims and sounds good to your lib friends in the coffee shop it must be true
Oh God am I gonna do some Greetin' to you in Duke!
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| August 12th, 2005 12:08 PM |
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| Joey |
" Oh God am I gonna do some Greetin' to you in Duke!"
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| August 12th, 2005 12:17 PM |
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| telecaster |
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Maxlugar wrote:
[quote]telecaster wrote:
But since it fits your socialist left wing wacko claims and sounds good to your lib friends in the coffee shop it must be true
Oh God am I gonna do some Greetin' to you in Duke!
DUKE!
Blue Devils. North Carolina. Moonshine capital of the world!
Part of the evil US of A!
TELE!
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| August 12th, 2005 12:18 PM |
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| lotsajizz |
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glencar wrote:
I can't wait for Iraq to become like America so all this fighting on the board ends. Besides mathjis, I like most
The only thing old is the stupidity of the oil-crazed Texas jesus-freaks who think a fake 'state' like Iraq can be remolded. The thing was a fiction in 1919 when drawn up by that besotted Churchill and is even more so now. Give the Kurds the freedom they earned, divvy up the rest into Shiite and Sunni lands and declare victory. Anything else is repeating the steps of the Romans in Germany, the Napoleonic French on Spain, the Brits in America circa 1775-1783 (most often forgotten by those who pretend to be patriotic Americans around here!), or the French/American idiocy in Indochina!! Wake up Jesus-freaks, we don't live there and someday we're gonna have to go home! They know that!! As Keith would say 'we should walk before we're made to run'. Divvy the place, install the puppets, declare that we won, and walk----it'll have to be done sooner or later anyway....
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| August 12th, 2005 12:26 PM |
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| Maxlugar |
[quote]lotsajizz wrote:
The thing was a fiction in 1919 when drawn up by that besotted Churchill and is even more so now. Give the Kurds the freedom they earned, divvy up the rest into Shiite and Sunni lands and declare victory.
Well that very well might have been the way to go but then you run into the oil question again. Who gets the fields? They are primarly in the North and South. There would have been major fighting over this.
Best to keep it together and try and make it work.
But I know your point. The whole middle friggin' east is made up of articial "states". It's part of the problem of this militant Pan Arabian thought process.
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| August 12th, 2005 12:27 PM |
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| glencar |
Lotsajizz, you're such a drag! BTW Who amde up all these false states in Asia & Africa? Mathjis, take a guess...
[Edited by glencar] |
| August 12th, 2005 12:36 PM |
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| Hondo |
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Hey Telecaster, look, if you wanna insult back Mathijs, go on. But leave me out of it. You're insulting me and the people of Holland/Europe right now as well. I wasn't around in WW II or any other one ok!! So stop generalizing everything and every one.
Sometimes you can't help but associate one person with a whole group, especially if that person is real outspoken and annoying. I'm sure Telecaster didn't mean anything bad by you, he just let his frustration get the best of him. By the way I just checked out your website...very cool, I enjoyed it a lot. |
| August 12th, 2005 12:36 PM |
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| Maxlugar |
[quote]glencar wrote:
Lotsajizz, you're such a drag! BTW Who amde up all these false states in Asia & Africa? Mathjis, take a guess...
You'll be greeted with abondon in Oyster Bay. |
| August 12th, 2005 12:40 PM |
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| glencar |
LOL I look forward to it. I also look forward to Mathjis's response. It'll be good, I'm sure. |
| August 12th, 2005 12:45 PM |
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Zulu Fun Mix wrote:
Mel Belli: No, Iraq is only *now* a classical failed state. It wasn't a failed state under Saddam. It was an evil state, but actually quite an effective one. The US destruction of this state is the chief reason we now have "neo-terror" breaking out all over the place.
Maxlugar: Germany and Japan are not like Iraq, my friend. In the 1920s, Weimar Germany and Taisho Japan were both budding democracies. They didn't survive the Depression, but there were still plenty of German and Japanese liberals around in the late '40s to bring back to power to build on the past. Very few such people exist in Iraq. The ones there now had to be imported from Detroit. Iraq will fail because the Germany/Japan analogy is flawed. If the neo-cons try to apply their lunatic vision to Iran next, we're all going to be truly fucked, with massive battle deaths, wild and wooly terrorism, uncontrollable budget deficits, and black-hole-collapsing international prestige.
Good point, Zuzie. But please consider that we're talking about a guy who has inspired God knows how many American criminals, those tattooed, toothless types you see lurking around places you want to just keep driving through. They all sit around saying, "Well, hell, if it's ok by Mick, I guess it's ok by me. I'll just go beat somebody's head in with a pool cue.""
I mean, one can't just ignore that fact in their analysis. It would be intellectual suicide to do so. Intellectual suicide is what it would be.
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| August 12th, 2005 12:48 PM |
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| Maxlugar |
[quote]sirmoonie wrote:
Good point, Zuzie. But please consider that we're talking about a guy who has inspired God knows how many American criminals, those tattooed, toothless types you see lurking around places you want to just keep driving through.
Will you leave Margot Kidder out of this?! |
| August 12th, 2005 12:49 PM |
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| glencar |
amazon.co has 30 second samples off all the songs up. The snippet of Neocon isn't all that good. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000A7Q27I/qid%3D1122664910/sr%3D1-1/ref%3Dsr%5F1%5F0%5F1/202-3702235-1315000 |
| August 12th, 2005 01:11 PM |
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Hondo wrote:
Sometimes you can't help but associate one person with a whole group, especially if that person is real outspoken and annoying. I'm sure Telecaster didn't mean anything bad by you, he just let his frustration get the best of him. By the way I just checked out your website...very cool, I enjoyed it a lot.
True! Thanks Hondo. I love Angiegirl and also the people of Holland/Netherlands/Dutch. I really do. Hell I was married to one for 8 friggin years
The points I made to Mathy are part of a long running disagreement that has been going on for over two years
and I shouldn't have included a whole group of people and made generalizations as he did and for that I apologize to Angie and I will buy her a dozen tulips when we greet
TELE!
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| August 12th, 2005 01:45 PM |
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| justforyou |
So who is cashing in on the oil ??
It's not like the barrels are costing more to pump up.... |
| August 12th, 2005 01:53 PM |
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| lotsajizz |
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So who is cashing in on the oil ??
It's not like the barrels are costing more to pump up....
The Texas Jesus freaks, that's who
same ones Mick sang about in Luxury
wherever there is oil in the word--whether it be Libya or Labrador, Arabia or Aruba, Iraq or Iran, you will find Texans--they are the management and most of the specialists in oil fields around the globe
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