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| Chris Diemoz |
BILL WYMAN REVEALS SOME STONES STARVING IN THE EIGHTIES
In the 1980's Rolling with the Stones, might not have been the best way to get your self onto Fortune�s Richest List's editions cover. Former Stones bass player Bill Wyman told me recently that he even had to get involved in a number of non-Stones projects, including solo albums, in order to pump fresh air into his bank account.
"The same applied to Ronnie Wood and Charlie Watts" , goes on the now 67 year old bassist , �because we didn�t have much money, considered the others were okay , because they [Sir Mick Jagger and Keith Richards] were getting royalties for songwriting, which we were not�.
Having left the mighty British musical outfit in 1993, after the legendary �Steel Wheels� comeback tour, Wyman recalls �We did America in 1981 and Europe in 1982. And then nothing for seven years! It drove me crazy and I thought 'well, is it the end of the band? I�ve got to earn money, I just can�t sit and vegetate'�.
�So, I started working on a restaurant idea [later to become London based Sticky Fingers], a book idea [released as Stone Alone], and on another solo album [the fourth entry of his individual discography]. I bought one of those bloody electronics things and started to get in digital recording at home, because I didn�t have a studio�.
About the result, Wyman � referring not only to the self-titled LP (1982), but also to his past solo works Monkey Grip (1974) and Stone Alone (1976) � admits �I like them all for different reasons. Sometimes I�m embarrassed with some of the songs on them. Not all, maybe two on Monkey Grip, a couple on Stone Alone and just one on Bill Wyman�.
Different tracks from his solo albums were promoted through videoclips. This was somewhat of a pioneer route, considered MTV wasn�t on the air in the seventies and no more than a baby in the mid-eighties. However, Wyman has a point on this too, and the band he was then on duty for is again part of it.
�When I did solo things, people were expecting them to be like the Stones music. People that weren�t interested in the Stones weren�t interested in me, because they thought I�d be like the Stones. So, I needed visual things to convince them I was doing something different. I wasn�t always happy with the result of the videos, but some of them I liked very much. It achieved something�.
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30/07/2004
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| exilestones@netscape |
Where is this article from? Charlie broke in the 1980's?
BILL WYMAN REVEALS SOME STONES STARVING IN THE EIGHTIES
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| Jumacfly |
Bill is in great form these days!
im really looking forward his next negative comment about the Stones yek yek yek !! |
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| Moonisup |
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| Soldatti |
Well, if you think a little on his words he said some of the true: on the 80's the Stones was more an old institution than a band. They did 5 studio records on the 80's but only 1 tour.
I remember that the 81-82 tour grossed 52.000.000 (34 on the US Tour) but they got little of that, about 8 millions total.
The 5 studio albums sold very well worldwide, but 70% of the royalties were all to Mick and Keith, and only 30% for the rest of the band.
Ronnie had good royalties I believe, because he got song credit on 4 of 5 albums and on 3 singles too: Start Me Up / No Use in Crying -- Harlem Shuffle / Had It With You -- One Hit / Fight.
I don't think that Bill and Charlie got too much money on that times and you can see it on their lack of effort during all the decade.
The Stones made too much money from 1989 to now with the tours, and they sold many records (new or back catalog) during the 90's.
I saw their fortunes on the Guinness Book of the records from 2000 (in dollars):
Mick Jagger - 215.000,000
Keith Richards - 200.000,000
Charlie Watts - 102.000,000
Ronnie Wood - 87.000,000
Bill Wyman - 36.000,000
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| Gazza |
Surely Bill and Charlie would have been getting band royalties - theyd hardly have been THAT short of cash - unlike Ronnie who WAS almost bankrupt by the late 80's, being still only a salaried employee.
Thanks for posting, Chris - good to see you back here! |
| August 1st, 2004 09:11 AM |
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| corgi37 |
Ahh, I never believe these rich lists. I mean, how do they know? Bill is so full of shit. So they didnt tour for 7 years. Big deal. They sold alot more records then than they do now.
But, then again, that might explain why he was always in that blue suit in the early 80's. It was all he could afford! |
| August 1st, 2004 12:35 PM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
quote:
Gazza wrote:
Surely Bill and Charlie would have been getting band royalties - theyd hardly have been THAT short of cash - unlike Ronnie who WAS almost bankrupt by the late 80's, being still only a salaried employee.
Well I suppose it kind of depends on how much you're used to spending. I doubt Bill has ever had to stand in a soup kitchen line or camp out in old vacant buildings. That's what I call "broke". |
| August 1st, 2004 11:45 PM |
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| corgi37 |
Plus, i imagine Mandy Smith might have got something for her troubles, apart from Bill's dick. |
| August 3rd, 2004 04:36 PM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
quote:
corgi37 wrote:
Plus, i imagine Mandy Smith might have got something for her troubles, apart from Bill's dick.
Well, if she had been smart, she'd have got it all. Just lucky Bill didn't live in Janet Reno's juristdiction in those days. She'd throw people in jail for a rumor.
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| August 3rd, 2004 04:40 PM |
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| Some Guy |
quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Well, if she had been smart, she'd have got it all. Just lucky Bill didn't live in Janet Reno's juristdiction in those days. She'd throw people in jail for a rumor.
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oh no you dit int! |
| August 3rd, 2004 09:30 PM |
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| Blind Dog McGhee |
quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Well I suppose it kind of depends on how much you're used to spending. I doubt Bill has ever had to stand in a soup kitchen line or camp out in old vacant buildings. That's what I call "broke".
True dat. He don't know what starving is. It's all about lifestyle. That's why he writes books and such. |
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