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Topic: Rumors on Shidoobee says 2005 " the last time" Return to archive Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
July 20th, 2004 05:50 PM
Gazza Josh said>Gazza, those are noble causes and deserve the world's attention...however, for better or worse, we live in a socirty where money is king .....I personally donate several thousand dollars a year to cause i support such as 'Camellus House", "Habitat for Humanity" and "Feed the children"...I am sure Mick and the boys do their fair share of donations, even if it is for tax purposes

I dont doubt your generosity and philanthropy and never have done, so apologies if what I posted suggested I was. What you or anyone else chooses to do with their own hard-earned disposal income is their own business and I personally dont begrudge anyone their wealth. I'm far from a socialist, lets face it!

The problem is - as youve put it "for better or worse we live in a society where money is king". I don't think it's even up for debate that it's "for worse" as we live in a society driven by greed. And the music business is the same. It's suffered artistically and creatively because of it as well and the Stones are the most obvious example of that. Accumulating personal wealth is all very well. Greed when it's for it's own sake and purely pointless in it's acquisition (as I've indicated above) is another matter.
July 20th, 2004 06:52 PM
moonlightmile
Gazza, you're right on, WAY too much greed!
Who the hell wants to pay $300 for 2 hours, plus T-Shirts, plus drinks, PLUS parking, PLUS PLUS PLUS!
July 20th, 2004 07:54 PM
Ten Thousand Motels
quote:
Gazza wrote:
Accumulating personal wealth is all very well. Greed when it's for it's own sake and purely pointless in it's acquisition (as I've indicated above) is another matter.



I hate to sound cynical, but "purely pointless greed" has always been the fuel of the human historical process. LOL.

July 20th, 2004 08:00 PM
corgi37 People have been whingeing about Stones ticket prices since 69. Either you go, or you dont. There's always the crappy seats. I have to say i thought paying $350 for a 8 row from the front seat was ok in my book. But, being a "all flash and no substance" junkie, i would have preferred a better light show. I know it was back to basics, but sheesh, our local pub bands have bigger rigs! Mind you, it was effective. Especially during Midnight Rambler. But, well, I'm such a baby, but i wanted fireworks and props and jagger throwing buckets of water over people.

What i'm saying is: I WANTED AN INFLATEABLE COCK!
July 21st, 2004 04:41 AM
Gazza I'll give you mine!
July 21st, 2004 09:22 AM
Lambchop*
quote:
Gazza wrote:
I'll give you mine!



Get a room!
July 21st, 2004 09:24 AM
Lambchop*
quote:
corgi37 wrote:


What i'm saying is: I WANTED AN INFLATEABLE COCK!



I like you.

July 21st, 2004 10:34 AM
Joey
quote:
Lambchop* wrote:


I like you.





One Word :


" UNCAKE " !!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 21st, 2004 10:51 AM
Lambchop*
quote:
Joey wrote:


One Word :


" UNCAKE " !!!!!!!!!!!!!



http://chronicle.com/free/v50/i43/43b01001.htm

July 21st, 2004 11:11 AM
jb The Sudan has been ignored for one simple reason-race. What is appalling is that the UN is quick to condem the US for freeing the world of a homicidal dictator, yet, is unable or unwilling to provide food for millions of starving people.
July 21st, 2004 11:31 AM
Joey " The Sudan has been ignored for one simple reason-race. What is appalling is that the UN is quick to condem the US for freeing the world of a homicidal dictator, yet, is unable or unwilling to provide food for millions of starving people. "


" I have the only key to your heart
I can stop you falling apart
Try today, you'll find this way
Come one and give me a chance to say
Let my love open the door
It's all I'm living for
Release yourself from misery
Only thing's gonna set you free
That's my love ...............

When tragedy befalls you
Don't let them bring you down
Love can cure your problems
You're so lucky I'm around "

Jacky T.


July 21st, 2004 12:57 PM
Monkey Woman jb, you might want to get more information on the Sudanese (more accurately the Darfur region) crisis. It's not merely famine but civil war and slavery that are killing people and driving out refugees. "Feed the people" is urgent but only a stopgap measure. They won't be able to come back to their homes until the war is over.

And it's pointless to oppose the UN and the USA in this crisis as they both have their role to play. The UN organization has no other funds than what the member states give it, and we all know the richest of these states is the USA. (Yes, the European Union also must participate, and they do send money, food, medical personnel, etc.) UNO's part is to make people work together, coordinate efforts, etc. Moreover, Washington has a direct line to the Khartum regime and can use it to apply pressures for them to allow relief workers to go into the Darfur region and bring help to the victims.

Some of the neighbouring countries of Sudan, like the Tchad, have volunteered to let the refugees through their frontiers to flee the militias, but they are poor themselves and need outside help. The militias in Darfur are supported by the islamic fundamentalist of Khartum regime who until recently was spared by the USA because of, guess what? The Sudanese oil fields, who are of much interest to American companies.

I'm not talking out of my head. I've been helping with iAbolish for a more than year now. It's a nongovernmental, US-based network of resources devoted to stop modern slavery. They, and other NGOs, have been warning from several months about what was going on in Sudan, and often petitioned Washington to stop turning a blind eye on this ethnic cleansing situation, and above all to stop taking Khartum's side on the subject.

Thankfully this militant activity in America and elsewhere did bring attention to the Sudan and the Darfur crisis. Now the USA, together with the UE and the UN, have condemned the human rights violations by the islamic militias and their Khartum backer. A peace deal between Khartum and the black African minority has been signed. But the Darfur still isn't free because, again, Khartum doesn't allow relief workers to go to the Darfur region. And the militias still carry arms and terrorize the black African villagers. Calling for UN to send relief in food and medical supplies is one thing, but now Washington still need to applying pressure on the Khartum regime (who still has oil to trade...) to make them relent on the matter.

For recent articles on this subject, click:
http://www.iabolish.com/darfur/newsarch.htm
July 21st, 2004 01:02 PM
Snappy McJack Checked out Shidoobee today and found that the long rumor thread is no longer on "sticky". I had to look for it this time!

Seems as though there's no more confidence in it anymore.

July 21st, 2004 01:15 PM
jb The government(if you want to call a gang of murderous thugs that) is allowing gangs of local militia to kill tens of thousands of people...these are muslims ,yet, like Bosnia, the world is silent...Where is the rage in the Arab street or is this Israels fault as well? Israel saved thousands of Ethiopian Jews, yet, you don't hear Jesse Jackson praising Israel..instead he sympathizes with Arafat!!!
July 21st, 2004 02:13 PM
Snappy McJack Joey, did you hear that a 2002 Who DVD of their show at the Tweeter Center in Boston is coming out September 14th?

Are you giddy?!?!?
July 21st, 2004 02:24 PM
Soldatti
quote:
I would personally donate thousands dollars for a good cause: the Stones making a good record!


Oh yeah man, me too!!!
[Edited by Soldatti]
July 22nd, 2004 06:41 AM
Monkey Woman Yep, the sticky is gone. So much for the rumors... But now there's a whole new batch on Shidoobee and elsewhere: maybe a March 2005 tour start in Japan and South America while U2 tours the US. And they are also expected to come back to India.



Side note: yes, I agree with you on Jesse Jackson, jb. His hate for Israel is disgusting and even makes no sense from a Black African point of view. But remember that in Bosnia, the Muslims were the victims (of the Orthodox Christian Serbs), and in Sudan the murderers & slavers are Muslims and the victims Christians.
July 23rd, 2004 01:51 AM
corgi37 And in 50 years, we'll all be saying the same things about the same countries having the same problems. I dont care anymore. My footy team is still top of the ladder, my wife puts out now and then, beer is delicious and plentiful,my kids are lovely and the original Dawn of the Dead comes out on dvd in September in a multi-disc edition.

Life is good.
July 23rd, 2004 02:11 AM
Lambchop*
quote:
corgi37 wrote:
I dont care anymore. My footy team is still top of the ladder, my wife puts out now and then, beer is delicious and plentiful,my kids are lovely and the original Dawn of the Dead comes out on dvd in September in a multi-disc edition.

Life is good.



I like you.


July 23rd, 2004 04:03 AM
FotiniD
quote:
Snappy McJack wrote:
Checked out Shidoobee today and found that the long rumor thread is no longer on "sticky". I had to look for it this time!

Seems as though there's no more confidence in it anymore.





Yes, but if you go on the forums list, you'll see a bunch with a header that reads: "Tour 2004/2005- this may be the Last TIme".

I don't think Stonesdoug should join in the "this-IS-the-last-time" game / rumours. I mean, even if this truly is the last time (which I seriously doubt it, since we've all been hearing the same old story for the past three or four tours at least and it was always like "yes, but THIS is going to be the last time") what's the point in analyzing it and trying to predict the future? Enjoy something while it's here for Christ's sakes!

I don't like anything that comes with a "last" word anyway.
July 25th, 2004 08:17 AM
TooTough They will never go on the road telling "This is our last tour". The media always (since 1982 imo) stated that it might be the last tour. When a new tour comes around the media always tells the others (not the Stones fans) that the Stones are doing a new tour though the last one was their final. Crap.

July 27th, 2004 03:47 PM
Snappy McJack From Shidoobee:

joephillystone
Registered User
Posts: 47
(7/27/04 3:37 pm)
Reply ronnie's struggles delay announcement
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well, ronnie appears to be struggling with addiction.......announcement delayed........from what i hear ronnie better get his $%!t together fast or they are going to tour without him, not in spite of him. my source tells me my information is holding strong. no stadiums on this tour except for several summer gigs that will end the united states leg!


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July 27th, 2004 05:53 PM
Gazza Good "get- out" clause!!!


[Edited by Gazza]
July 27th, 2004 11:10 PM
Soldatti Ronnie needs help but they will tour with him, that's sure.
[Edited by Soldatti]
July 28th, 2004 07:29 AM
Gazza

Posted by Richard B on Gasx3 today:


Tour to begin fall 2005 with rehearsels to begin in early summer - April/May(?). Feb 8 start date has been scrapped due to "last minute" mass product placement - several albums will be coming out in the coming months and a new album and tour by the band will and has been pushed back. Also, Woods health and rehab are being considered. Albert can confirm that there is real problems with the group getting issues together for this tour more than any other in recent times.

Not quite sure what all this means and where it's taken from so don't know how reliable it is or isnt. It appears to be copied and pasted from somewhere as it mentions someone called "Albert" as a source without mentioning WHO this guy is. Anyone know?

The mass product placement - could that be Virgin/EMI's reisue of "Jump Back" and the live album? And is that "several albums" by the Stones? More reissues?

The last sentence has me bewildered!


July 28th, 2004 10:13 AM
Snappy McJack If this is true, then they would have to start selling tickets in May/June/July to honor the $100 Premium Memberships people paid for on rs.com when they were first available.
July 28th, 2004 10:28 AM
Gazza yeah I was just thinkin' that! That one year membership for $100 isn't looking like a great investment right now.

Seriously - if they dont announce a tour for quite some time I think a lot of you folks should be asking for a refund. Of course, they'll counter that by saying the membership only gave you a chance to advance tickets IF they announced a tour!
July 28th, 2004 10:42 AM
LadyJane
quote:
Gazza wrote:

The last sentence has me bewildered!




Me too!! I wish we had some credible info. All of these rumors are killing me!!

Where are our "real" insiders???

LJ.
July 28th, 2004 11:15 AM
Joey
quote:
LadyJane wrote:



Where are our "real" insiders???

LJ.




Here I IS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Joe Sea Scroll !
July 28th, 2004 02:16 PM
Soldatti
quote:
Tour to begin fall 2005 with rehearsels to begin in early summer - April/May(?). Feb 8 start date has been scrapped due to "last minute" mass product placement - several albums will be coming out in the coming months and a new album and tour by the band will and has been pushed back. Also, Woods health and rehab are being considered. Albert can confirm that there is real problems with the group getting issues together for this tour more than any other in recent times.


A whole year of wait for both tour and album?
It's too much time and far from the rumours of Feb/Apr start. Sad if is true...

Poor Charlie, he cancelled all his plans in vain...
[Edited by Soldatti]
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