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Topic: Jurors Find Yates Not Guilty (NSC) Return to archive
26th July 2006 01:18 PM
Ten Thousand Motels I don't know what to make of this.


Jurors Find Yates Not Guilty
Jul 26 1:08 PM US/Eastern
By ANGELA K. BROWN
Associated Press Writer
HOUSTON


Jurors found Andrea Yates not guilty by reason of insanity in her children's bathtub drowning deaths.

This is the second trial for the suburban mother who drowned her five young children in a bathtub.

The jury had spent 11 hours Monday and Tuesday trying to determine if Yates was legally insane. Wednesday morning, they reviewed the state's definition of insanity and then asked to see a family photo and candid pictures of the five smiling youngsters. After about an hour of deliberations, they said they had reached a verdict.

In Yates' first murder trial, in 2002, the jury deliberated about four hours before finding her guilty. That conviction was overturned on appeal.

26th July 2006 02:20 PM
texile i find it hard to disagree with a that verdict...
now, if they can only try the husband.
26th July 2006 03:06 PM
monkey_man WHY IS THIS NEWS???? It doesn't affect your life why do you care?

Something that does affect your life would be something like this:

Dobbs: Why is the president ignoring our laws?

Bush, feds flout the Constitution by finding ways around laws
By Lou Dobbs
CNN


Editor's note: Lou Dobbs' commentary appears every Wednesday on CNN.com.

NEW YORK (CNN) -- With upraised right hand and left hand on the Bible, each of our presidents, from George Washington to George W. Bush, has solemnly sworn to "preserve, protect and defend" the Constitution of the United States.

The American Bar Association claims President Bush has violated that oath by issuing hundreds of "signing statements" to disregard selected provisions of the laws that Congress passed and he signed.

A bipartisan, 11-member panel of the ABA found that President Bush is not only disregarding laws but using such signing statements far more than any president in history. In fact, Bush has used signing statements to raise constitutional objections to more than 800 provisions in more than 100 laws. All of the presidents combined before 2001 had issued only 600.

The ABA asserts that signing statements cannot be a substitute for a presidential veto and that such an assertion of presidential power amounts to a line-item veto, which the Supreme Court already has ruled unconstitutional.

The matter will likely be resolved in court. But it stands as a metaphor for a 21st century America that is no longer secure in the claim to be a nation of laws.

The federal government is failing to enforce our laws on a wide range of issues. Trade agreements such as the North American Free Trade Agreement, which is clearly a treaty, have not been approved by two-thirds of the Senate as required by the Treaty Clause of the Constitution.

That clause states the president "shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur." And why has the Senate not been required to approve these treaties? Because the last three presidents have claimed these trade deals are executive agreements rather than treaties.

But if these so-called free-trade agreements are not to be considered treaties, then they are clearly within the power of Congress, not the president. Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to "regulate Commerce with foreign nations." But Congress has given up its exclusive constitutional authority to negotiate and regulate trade agreements by ceding "fast-track authority" to the executive branch.

The president's fast-track authority is set to expire next year, more than 30 years after its passage. It is no coincidence that the United States has now posted a trade deficit for 30 consecutive years.

The federal government is also undermining the rule of law in this country when it comes to enforcement of our immigration laws and securing borders and ports.

The Bush administration in its first four years was responsible for 318 fines against employers who hired illegal workers, an average of fewer than 80 each year. That's down from 5,587 fines against illegal employers during the eight years of the Clinton administration, according to the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, an average of 698 each year. And the problem is getting worse; in 2004 only three employers received fines for illegal hiring.

Work site arrests have fallen even more drastically under this president. From 1995 to 1998, there were between 10,000 and 18,000 work site arrests of illegal aliens each year. But during the Bush administration, work site arrests fell to just 159 in 2004.

Apprehensions along the border averaged 1.05 million from fiscal year 2001 to 2004, according to the independent, progressive group Third Way, down from 1.52 million from 1996 to 2000. Border apprehensions have plummeted more than 30 percent, despite a doubling in the number of Border Patrol agents over the past decade and the rising number of attempted crossings.

It is not only the federal government that had diminished our claim to be a nation of laws. More than 70 U.S. cities, including New York, Los Angeles, California, and Chicago, Illinois, have set up "sanctuary" policies that offer safe haven from the law to illegal aliens and their families.

"It most certainly is a blatant violation of the law," says Rep. Tom Tancredo, a Republican from Colorado. "There is a provision of the 1996 Immigration Act that is very clear: It says states and localities can't do this. The unfortunate thing is there are no teeth in it."

As Abraham Lincoln said, if bad laws exist they should "be repealed as soon as possible, still, while they continue in force, for the sake of example they should be religiously observed." President Lincoln devoutly believed that rule of law assured that ours would continue to be a government of the people, by the people and for the people.

And that should be the first demand of every American today.
26th July 2006 03:09 PM
jb She was clearly legally insane, and thus, deserved to be found not guilty by reason of insanity. I am not sure what version of the Mcnaughton test Texas uses, but this was one of the few cases that would meet that test imo. While we all agree that her actions where something outof a horror movie, I applaud the jury for folowing the law.
[Edited by jb]
26th July 2006 03:22 PM
Factory Girl Why was GW rubbing that woman at the G8 summit?

Is he back on the pipe?
[Edited by Factory Girl]
26th July 2006 03:23 PM
jb
quote:
Factory Girl wrote:
Why was GW rubbing that woman at the G8 summit?

Is he back on the pipe?
[Edited by Factory Girl]



At heart, GW,like most of us, is a goof!!!
26th July 2006 03:35 PM
Factory Girl
quote:
jb wrote:


At heart, GW,like most of us, is a goof!!!



And unlike most of us, W is a goof with global power that he abuses.
26th July 2006 03:46 PM
jb
quote:
Factory Girl wrote:


And unlike most of us, W is a goof with global power that he abuses.


True, but he does it in a goofy way..
26th July 2006 03:54 PM
Fiji Joe [quote]monkey_man wrote:
WHY IS THIS NEWS???? It doesn't affect your life why do you care?

[quote]

Uh oh...I detect a little jealousy between the cutting and pasting kings...it's like Monkey Man is CNN and Ten Thousand is Entertainment Tonight

Why don't you two sissies just take it out in the yard and settle things?...

26th July 2006 03:56 PM
Factory Girl [quote]Fiji Joe wrote:
[quote]Why don't you two sissies just take it out in the yard and settle things?...

Will you referee?
26th July 2006 04:00 PM
pdog
26th July 2006 04:01 PM
Ten Thousand Motels
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:
...it's like Monkey Man is CNN and Ten Thousand is Entertainment Tonight





26th July 2006 04:09 PM
pdog

quote:

It's like Monkey Man is CNN and Ten Thousand is Entertainment Tonight.



26th July 2006 04:11 PM
monkey_man
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:

[quote]

Uh oh...I detect a little jealousy between the cutting and pasting kings...it's like Monkey Man is CNN and Ten Thousand is Entertainment Tonight

Why don't you two sissies just take it out in the yard and settle things?...




Or we could just project internet bravado incessently!
26th July 2006 05:39 PM
pdog
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