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| Poison Dart |
The Stones should retire after that disgraceful concert for corporate suits at Deutsche Bank.
As if anyone needed more conformation the Stones have lost their touch (nothing says rock + roll more than $400 tickets to a stadium show)this is just further conformation.
Could you imagine the Keith Richards of the 70's or even the "Talk is Cheap" Keith playing a corporate gig for bankers?
What's next?
Maybe the "Bridges to Ernst + Young" tour?
Or the "Rebalance Your Portfolio at the Voodoo Lounge" tour?
These guys are fucking lame these days.
It's a shame because these guys still have some great stuff left in them.
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| Mr Jurkka |
They do gig for millions.. what is the proplem? i would do. |
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| F505 |
quote:
Mr Jurkka wrote:
They do gig for millions.. what is the proplem? i would do.
The problem is they do the same old lame show for too many years now. They have become a circus attraction while doing their boring tricks for everyone who is crazy enough to pay for it.
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| Highwire Rob |
He's a pirate! And bankers is giving up booty! |
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| Mr Jurkka |
ARRR! |
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| mojoman |
quote:
Highwire Rob wrote:
He's a pirate! And bankers is giving up booty!
hoist the jolly roger!!! |
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| nappyrags |
well like willie loman said when asked why he robbed banks..." 'cause that's where the money is..." same thing |
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| Poison Dart |
Yeah, the poor thing is really hurting.
Thank God he stole their money.
Give me a fucking break!!! |
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| wasted |
Let me get this straight. The Rolling Stones play a boring, short set of 12 songs for millions in front of a small group of bankers and people are upset about it.
A question. What band wouldnt go for something like that? Is there one out there? The Rolling Stones did it because they could. The others dont do it because they cant. |
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| ~Cocaine Eyes~ |
I really have nothing against them playing for DB and for Bill Clinton's birthday party. Or for any other group which has BIG MONEY.
The Stones have paid their dues. And, they do still play for us, the fans.
But I wish they'd play small places more for the fans.
[Edited by ~Cocaine Eyes~] |
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| gimmekeef |
I wish they'd record a double album of new stuff better than Exile in my basement with me at the controls....But that aint happenin either...Wait till the Vegas run starts in 2008/09 at Bellagio etc.....Mark my words.... |
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| lotsajizz |
quote:
Poison Dart wrote:
The Stones should retire after that disgraceful concert for corporate suits at Deutsche Bank.
As if anyone needed more conformation the Stones have lost their touch (nothing says rock + roll more than $400 tickets to a stadium show)this is just further conformation.
Could you imagine the Keith Richards of the 70's or even the "Talk is Cheap" Keith playing a corporate gig for bankers?
What's next?
Maybe the "Bridges to Ernst + Young" tour?
Or the "Rebalance Your Portfolio at the Voodoo Lounge" tour?
...or maybe a 'Rice Krispies' commercial....
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| 72Tele |
I'm sure a banker of any sort had never attended a Stones concert prior to this show. The billion or so people who have attended their concerts have had only real cool jobs like tattoo artists,test pilots, motorcycle daredevils and arborists. Who the fuck cares who is staring back at them when they play? They're entertainers! Somebody pays, they play. |
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| FotiniD |
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72Tele wrote:
They're entertainers! Somebody pays, they play.
I somehow was under the impression they were musicians and they actually used to dig what they were doing. All those mumbo-jumbo about the ancient art of weaving, and music being their life and soul, and Keith bitching about Mick's sell-out moments and all, to name a few.
"What a drag it is, getting old." |
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| polytoxic |
quote:
Poison Dart wrote:
The Stones should retire after that disgraceful concert for corporate suits at Deutsche Bank.
As if anyone needed more conformation the Stones have lost their touch (nothing says rock + roll more than $400 tickets to a stadium show)this is just further conformation.
Could you imagine the Keith Richards of the 70's or even the "Talk is Cheap" Keith playing a corporate gig for bankers?
What's next?
Maybe the "Bridges to Ernst + Young" tour?
Or the "Rebalance Your Portfolio at the Voodoo Lounge" tour?
These guys are fucking lame these days.
It's a shame because these guys still have some great stuff left in them.
Well all that "you can have the money, pal" talk is bullshit anyways.
I don't think Keith is really fooling anyone with that.
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| Jumping Jack |
Bellagio is cool, nice buffet, great swimming in the fountain after the show! |
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| Steel Wheels |
Good ol'sharecropper B.B. King charges 100 bucks for tickets, appears in diabetic commercials, and has done countless private gigs.
Who cares?
It's all music. |
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| FotiniD |
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Steel Wheels wrote:
Who cares?
It's all music.
Yes, but what kind of music? Good music? Boring music?
Great music they don't feel inspired to play or write anymore, cause they've become alienated with their fans and what they used to love doing?
Enter big $$$ in the equation and the art or music aspect is gone in seconds, imo. |
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| LadyJane |
I'm so sick of this thread.
Let me bottom line it for ya.
One of these days, in the not too distant future, I fear, there will be no more shows AT ALL.
None..Zilch.
Game Over.
So in the big picture, this gig does NOT bother me in the least.
LJ.
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| mojoman |
quote:
LadyJane wrote:
I'm so sick of this thread.
Let me bottom line it for ya.
One of these days, in the not too distant future, I fear, there will be no more shows AT ALL.
None..Zilch.
Game Over.
So in the big picture, this gig does NOT bother me in the least.
LJ.
thanks LJ for your wise words......now i'm gonna cry |
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| FotiniD |
quote:
LadyJane wrote:
I'm so sick of this thread.
Let me bottom line it for ya.
One of these days, in the not too distant future, I fear, there will be no more shows AT ALL.
None..Zilch.
Game Over.
So in the big picture, this gig does NOT bother me in the least.
LJ.
I know LJ, and I'm not in a rush at all for that day to come, but the thing is, I don't think what's bothering anyone of us is the gig itself. It's what it represents, more than anything else. I've been trying to not pay attention for quite a long time, but it's like they're force-feeding it to us lately, "hello, in case you haven't noticed, we're corporate sell-outs, now empty your wallets!".
Yeah, I know, that's the way it's been for years and I should deal with it. Well, it still makes me sad, nevertheless. And I can't believe I'm saying that, but it has come to a point that if we were given choice of the Stones, staying the way they are, disbanding in say ten years, or the Stones like they used to be (making music cause they enjoy it, rejecting offers which they'd only take because of the $$$ involved) disbanding in one year, I think I'd pick the second one.
I just wish things were different. With more passion and less greed involved. |
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| Maxlugar |
quote:
LadyJane wrote:
I'm so sick of this thread.
Let me bottom line it for ya.
One of these days, in the not too distant future, I fear, there will be no more shows AT ALL.
None..Zilch.
Game Over.
So in the big picture, this gig does NOT bother me in the least.
LJ.
Word LJ. The final chapters are playing out before our eyes. The maggots are putting their bibs on. I'm sticking around to see how this book ends. I've been reading it far too long, and have way too much emotional stock invested in it to put it down now.
Rock me Charlie. |
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| LadyJane |
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FotiniD wrote:
I just wish things were different. With more passion and less greed involved.
Too late, my dear.
Ain't gonna happen at this stage of the game.
It's been "all about the $$" for quite some time.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I understand your point of view.
I guess my focus is more on enjoying what is left.
LJ. |
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| SweetVirginia |
quote:
nappyrags wrote:
well like willie loman said when asked why he robbed banks..." 'cause that's where the money is..." same thing
That was Willie Sutton.
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| FotiniD |
quote:
LadyJane wrote:
Too late, my dear.
Ain't gonna happen at this stage of the game.
It's been "all about the $$" for quite some time.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I understand your point of view.
I guess my focus is more on enjoying what is left.
LJ.
Well, you know I still do as well 
It's just that there's a bitterness involved as well *sigh*... |
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| Fiji Joe |
Pretty simple...The Stones don't care about their fans bitching...so don't bitch...love it or leave it |
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| voodoopug |
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:
Pretty simple...The Stones don't care about their fans bitching...so don't bitch...love it or leave it
I agree to an extent. They do not care about the "die hard" fans bitching because in reality, they will get our money more times than not. They do care about the casual fan, the fan who would bitch that, "I liked it, but I won't go back again since they didnt play Brown Sugar". They want the casual fan to attend these shows, perhaps decide to attend another and then go buy Jump Back, 40 Licks, and other such releases.
Virtually everything the Stones do now is geared towards the casual fan because thats who they understand they need to cater to to be able to earn the large profits from the stadium shows vs. the small profits from the theater gigs. |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
quote:
Maxlugar wrote:
Word LJ. The final chapters are playing out before our eyes. The maggots are putting their bibs on. I'm sticking around to see how this book ends. I've been reading it far too long, and have way too much emotional stock invested in it to put it down now.
Rock me Charlie.
IMO opinion this entire Age of Rock n Roll ends when the Stones do. They were/are that important. But of course the Stones will "live on" and permeate the next Age of Rock n' Roll. I wouldn't be at all surprised of they're God's favorite Rock n Roll band. |
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| FotiniD |
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Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
IMO opinion this entire Age of Rock n Roll ends when the Stones do. They were/are that important. But of course the Stones will "live on" and permeate the next Age of Rock n' Roll. I wouldn't be at all surprised of they're God's favorite Rock n Roll band.
I don't want to sound cheeky or pretend to be cleverer, but I think that age of rock 'n' roll was finished long ago 
There is good rock music today, and there are great live bands, but rock 'n' roll as an era and as we define it, well, I think it's been dead far too long.
That said, of course the Stones are important. Just imagine how much more important - and still relevant - they would be, had they cared more about their own legacy. |
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| Steel Wheels |
The rich have always had their court jesters and entertainers.
If the rich want to hire the Stones, so be it. Hire Dylan. B.B. Even Bon Jovi.
Who hires a musician doesn't matter.
Does the musician deliver the goods? Is the guitar in tune? Does the lead singer get the words right? That's what matters.
Musicians are the one sector of artists that have this bullshit code of ethics about what they charge and who they play for applied to them.
If a painter gets paid to paint some asshole's wife for a million bucks, it's art. You NEVER hear about a painter "selling out" to the man. "Oh, she just paints for the rich now. What a sell out. She used to sell painting for 10 bucks. Now she sells the same paintings she's always made for a million dollars a canvas." |
