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| Fuck! |
i just called the local recordstore, and asked if they knew something about the new mick jagger album, he looked for me on their pc, and he told me the release date that we already know, and he told me what the traklisting was, he also told me it was going to be released on 12 and 7 Inch Vinyl, and that they are going to release 2 different kind of versions.
anyway, here's the tracklist:
Mick Jagger
The Best Of 1985-2007
20 Songs (Including 3 New Songs!)
Guest Appereances by
Wyclef Jean & Lenny Kravitz
CD 1
1. Just Another Night
2. Luckiy in Love
3. Hard Woman
4. Let's Work
5. Say you will
6. Throwaway
7. Radio control
8. Wandering Spirit
9. Use me (with Lenny Kravitz)
10. (New Song)
CD 2
1. Out of focus
2. sweet thing
3. Don't tear me up
4. Visions of Paradise
5. Too far gone
6. Dancing in the starlight
7. Hideaway (with Wyclef Jean)
8. God gave me everyting (with Lenny Kravitz)
9. (New Song)
10. (New Song)
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| Fuck! |
it looks like it's for the mainstream fans, not for the diehards like us on rocks off...i could name a few more songs right now that should be on the album, but i'm not doing it..
well. it's just another emppty spot to fill in the stones museum right? |
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| Daethgod |
wheres Evening Gown ...?
Mick !!!!!!????
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| MarshallG |
Hopefully it will come with a DVD featuring the promo to "Let's Work".
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| Gazza |
Too many mediocre songs picked just because they were singles (but not hits, so whats the point!) from his 'regular' albums.
Some bizarre exclusions there, quite frankly. None of the "non album" singles like Ruthless People, Dancing In the Street etc.
Jagger releases a two-CD "best of" and it doesnt include 'dancing in the street' whichw as a number 1 single. Why? is it because it was a charity single and its inclusion would take the place of another song for which he could get royalties?
And why nothing from the 'Alfie' soundtrack? The duet with Sheryl Crow (which WOULD have been a chart success as Sheryl still has hit singles) wasnt even released on the Euro edition of the soundtrack.
Twenty songs also seems a pretty shabby return for a double CD as well.
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| FotiniD |
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Gazza wrote:
Jagger releases a two-CD "best of" and it doesnt include 'dancing in the street' whichw as a number 1 single. Why? is it because it was a charity single and its inclusion would take the place of another song for which he could get royalties?
Now, now Gazza... Not OUR Mick...  |
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| Gazza |
quote:
FotiniD wrote:
Now, now Gazza... Not OUR Mick...
Unless there were contractual/licensing issues with its inclusion, I'd well believe it.
40 Licks was a perfect example of certain cover songs being omitted because there were no publishing royalties in them....eg 'Little red Rooster" (a #1 single for God's sake!) and 'Harlem Shuffle' (making 'Dirty work' the only later day studio album not represented - 'coincidentally' it was the only Stones album in the last four decades where the first single was a cover version) |
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| speedfreakjive |
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Gazza wrote:
Unless there were contractual/licensing issues with its inclusion, I'd well believe it.
40 Licks was a perfect example of certain cover songs being omitted because there were no publishing royalties in them....eg 'Little red Rooster" (a #1 single for God's sake!) and 'Harlem Shuffle' (making 'Dirty work' the only later day studio album not represented - 'coincidentally' it was the only Stones album in the last four decades where the first single was a cover version)
the above is insinuating he needed the money more in 2002 than in 1993 as Harlem Shuffle was included on Jump Back, which doesn't make sense to me because by then they had the at the time largest grossing tour ever income in their pockets (Voodoo Lounge) and also the income from B2B & No Security. |
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| Gazza |
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speedfreakjive wrote:
the above is insinuating he needed the money more in 2002 than in 1993 as Harlem Shuffle was included on Jump Back, which doesn't make sense to me because by then they had the at the time largest grossing tour ever income in their pockets (Voodoo Lounge) and also the income from B2B & No Security.
1) Jump Back hadnt been released in the US at the time of 40 Licks. 40 Licks was a far bigger commercial release and a more comprehensive round up of their career than any album that had been released before.
2) Needed the money? No..but the Stones seem to have developed an increasingly insatiable hunger for it in the last ten years for some reason at a level that is far greater than it was before. |
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| Torn and Frayed |
quote:
Fuck! wrote:
it looks like it's for the mainstream fans, not for the diehards like us on rocks off...i could name a few more songs right now that should be on the album, but i'm not doing it..
well. it's just another emppty spot to fill in the stones museum right?
What mainstream fans buy Mick Jagger albums? |
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| Torn and Frayed |
Why do we believe this guy's track listing? There is no need to complain until we see something official.
But Evening Gown should definitely be on there. |
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| Honky Tonker |
This will be bought by about 15 people. |
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| Mel Belli |
quote:
Gazza wrote:
Unless there were contractual/licensing issues with its inclusion, I'd well believe it.
40 Licks was a perfect example of certain cover songs being omitted because there were no publishing royalties in them....eg 'Little red Rooster" (a #1 single for God's sake!) and 'Harlem Shuffle' (making 'Dirty work' the only later day studio album not represented - 'coincidentally' it was the only Stones album in the last four decades where the first single was a cover version)
I'm as cynical as the next Rocks Off-er, but there's some self-contradiction here. Forty Licks had a pair of cover versions on it ("Not Fade Away," "It's All Over Now"); two more would hardly have made a significant difference in royalties.
My guess is that they didn't consider "Harlem Shuffle," hit though it was, an essential part of their catalogue (who here disagrees?!) -- which is exactly the kind of discrimination that some of us wish Mick had employed in compiling his solo "Best Of."
So: Mick takes the singles-only approach and we complain; the Stones exclude hit singles and we complain. Fever or frostbite?
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| Gazza |
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Mel Belli wrote:
I'm as cynical as the next Rocks Off-er, but there's some self-contradiction here. Forty Licks had a pair of cover versions on it ("Not Fade Away," "It's All Over Now"); two more would hardly have made a significant difference in royalties.
My guess is that they didn't consider "Harlem Shuffle," hit though it was, an essential part of their catalogue (who here disagrees?!) -- which is exactly the kind of discrimination that some of us wish Mick had employed in compiling his solo "Best Of."
So: Mick takes the singles-only approach and we complain; the Stones exclude hit singles and we complain. Fever or frostbite?
[Edited by Mel Belli]
Not really, its understandable that a compilation should be primarily singles-based. However, a 2-CD Stones retrospective has a lot more ground to cover and songs that could be included than a Jagger 2-CD solo 'best of'. Jagger hasnt had THAT many solo hits to warrant a singles collection over 1 CD let alone two.
as a band who started off exclusively doing covers, they couldnt realistically release a career retrospective hits collection WITHOUT including SOME covers. It just seemed that they minimised the inclusion of them regardless of the fact that it affected the continuity of the record. They basically picked singles from albums with one exception - Harlem Shuffle - the only latter day one which was a cover and it thereby meant that one album was left unrepresented. Anyway, a minor issue as its 2 songs out of 40 and it was still a bloody good collection, but the point is that IMO their decisions are primarily driven by financial gain more than anything.
Mick's compilation isnt 'singles-only'. It does include pretty much all the singles from his first four solo albums though plus a few album tracks - but nothing else from his back catalogue. There were quite a few singles which dont feature on his solo albums that appear to be omitted from that list (if this list is correct). If anything, that track selection basically reads like a sampler for his first 4 albums - are they being reissued soon perhaps? There also appears to be enough room there for at least another ten songs. At 20 songs, thats barely longer than a single CD.
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| The Wick |
What an absolute load of shite track listing. There are songs on all of his albums that beat out a lot of the shite that's on there. I also can't understand why there are some many Goddess tracks on there? |
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| Gazza |
'Rocky Dijon' over on IORR, whose usually a knowedgleable kind of guy, reckoned this track listing is somewhat unlikely as Rhino's plans for the release were to include some non-album material and b-sides etc. So hopefully, this track listing isnt the final one. |
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| voodoopug |
I've made a few calls. From what I can gather, this is not an accurate track listing. Gazza is accurate, there is scheduled to be some B sides on here as well, and from what I can tell from the little details I am receiving, Dancin in The Streets may be on this release. |
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| rogerriffin |
quote:
Gazza wrote:
Mick's compilation isnt 'singles-only'. It does include pretty much all the singles from his first four solo albums though plus a few album tracks - but nothing else from his back catalogue. There were quite a few singles which dont feature on his solo albums that appear to be omitted from that list (if this list is correct). If anything, that track selection basically reads like a sampler for his first 4 albums - are they being reissued soon perhaps? There also appears to be enough room there for at least another ten songs. At 20 songs, thats barely longer than a single CD.
Where are Too Many Cocks (will be a hit!) Dancing in The Streets and State Of Shock?
Need give an extra for convince to buy it... |
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| GotToRollMe |
A double CD and it doesn't include "Evening Gown," "Mother Of A Man," "Hang On To Me Tonight," or "Angel In My Heart"!?
But it does include "Let's Work"!?
Feh.
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| razorback |
quote:
Fuck! wrote:
i just called the local recordstore, and asked if they knew something about the new mick jagger album, he looked for me on their pc, and he told me the release date that we already know, and he told me what the traklisting was, he also told me it was going to be released on 12 and 7 Inch Vinyl, and that they are going to release 2 different kind of versions.
anyway, here's the tracklist:
Mick Jagger
The Best Of 1985-2007
20 Songs (Including 3 New Songs!)
Guest Appereances by
Wyclef Jean & Lenny Kravitz
CD 1
1. Just Another Night
2. Luckiy in Love
3. Hard Woman
4. Let's Work
5. Say you will
6. Throwaway
7. Radio control
8. Wandering Spirit
9. Use me (with Lenny Kravitz)
10. (New Song)
CD 2
1. Out of focus
2. sweet thing
3. Don't tear me up
4. Visions of Paradise
5. Too far gone
6. Dancing in the starlight
7. Hideaway (with Wyclef Jean)
8. God gave me everyting (with Lenny Kravitz)
9. (New Song)
10. (New Song)
[Edited by Fuck!]
Great !! a nice pile of shit to fill up a hole in the collection .....I guess they will release a collector edition with the asskicking "running out of luck" movie as a bonus :-)Perfect for a total disaster. |
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| F505 |
This will be a another huge blockbuster! |
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| Moonisup |
thought it was the worst off |
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| polytoxic |
Me, I'm waiting for the Keith Richards best of 1997-2007 disc. |
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| F505 |
quote:
polytoxic wrote:
Me, I'm waiting for the Keith Richards best of 1997-2007 disc.
Well, I predict that will be another disappointment. |
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| Mel Belli |
quote:
polytoxic wrote:
Me, I'm waiting for the Keith Richards best of 1997-2007 disc.
Here's the tracklist:
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| polytoxic |
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F505 wrote:
Well, I predict that will be another disappointment.
I believe it would be called This CD Is Empty. |
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| polytoxic |
Har! Beat me to it.
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Mel Belli wrote:
Here's the tracklist:
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| Mel Belli |
quote:
polytoxic wrote:
Har! Beat me to it.
[Edited by polytoxic]
This Muse is empty/Oh, so empty |
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| Joey |
quote:
Fuck! wrote:
well. it's just another emppty spot to fill in the stones museum right?
Thanks for the information ....
.. Fuck ! |
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| Gazza |
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polytoxic wrote:
Me, I'm waiting for the Keith Richards best of 1997-2007 disc.
You already got it on 40 Licks. It was subtitled "Losing My Touch". |
