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American country music, the roots, where did it began, I've read it started with/based on Irish folk music...no? The use of a fiddle seems very Irish, lets discuss...
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| polksalad69 |
Saw Wayne the Train last night. |
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| Bloozehound |
Waynes cool!
but lol@your post totals polk, 2 dudes here r gonna be po'd lol |
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| PolkSalad |
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Waynes cool!
but lol@your post totals polk, 2 dudes here r gonna be po'd lol
yeah well, the sun will rise in the east...
took a few photos but haven't gotten them in the puter yet |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
OK I'll bite ... who's Wayne the Train? |
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| Bloozehound |
http://www.waynehancock.com/ |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
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http://www.waynehancock.com/
OK. Thanks!!! The Texas Playboy's still around???? I got a tape of them I recorded off public radio a couple of years back. |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
Bill Wills info
http://www.nashvillesongwritersfoundation.com/fame/wills.html |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
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Bob Wills info
http://www.nashvillesongwritersfoundation.com/fame/wills.html
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
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American folk...aka country music...the roots...began....STARTED...the roots...started with/based on Irish folk music...no? You hear twin fiddles.... and a steele guitar...lets discuss....go....
Well..."Celtic" folk music. Perhaps coming by way of the Irish to America. LOL. Fado & Flamenco are also direct decendents of "Celtic" music and folk songs....of course mixed up with various influences that crept in by way of "marriages." IMO...Keith's theory of "one song" is spot on. |
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| Bloozehound |
Good point, but the use of the fiddle I think is part of the Irish contribution, or is the fiddle prominent in Celtic music as well ? |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
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Good point, but the use of the fiddle I think is part of the Irish contribution, or is the fiddle prominent in Celtic music as well ?
No actually the fiddle is an ancient Roman instrument. You know Nero fiddled while Rome burned....very much like our modern politicians.
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| polksalad69 |
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OK I'll bite ... who's Wayne the Train?
Wayne Hancock. Hank III has said Wayne has more Sr in him than he does. No fiddle, just guitar, guitar and bass last night.
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
>Wayne Hancock. Hank III has said Wayne has more Sr in him than he does. <
Well wtf does that mean? Cutting edge? I'm convinced that Rock n Roll will rise again but it'll be from the ashes of these guys like Hank3 and this Wayne guy. Sadly the Stones seem to be on their way out. The only good thing that could possibly come out of that is that Keith will get his silver spoon finger out of his ass and start MAKING music. If he doesn't well....fuck him. Someone else will do it.
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>Wayne Hancock. Hank III has said Wayne has more Sr in him than he does. <
Well wtf does that mean? Cutting edge? I'm convinced that Rock n Roll will rise again but it'll be from the ashes of these guys like Hank3 and this Wayne guy. Sadly the Stones seem to be on their way out. The only good thing that could possibly come out of that is that Keith will get his silver spoon finger out of his ass and start MAKING music. If he doesn't well....fuck him. Someone else will do it.
Talent is what I take it to mean.
I don't know what to tell ya. I love the Stones music but there's so much more out there. I believe Wayne is still on:
http://www.bloodshotrecords.com/
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| Bloozehound |
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Well wtf does that mean? Cutting edge? I'm convinced that Rock n Roll will rise again but it'll be from the ashes of these guys like Hank3 and this Wayne guy. Sadly the Stones seem to be on their way out. The only good thing that could possibly come out of that is that Keith will get his silver spoon finger out of his ass and start MAKING music. If he doesn't well....fuck him. Someone else will do it.
TTM you raise some very interesting points...I've thought the same exact thing about rock n roll revival. During the 60's & 80's it seem the blues revival triggered an interest in basic rock n roll, and I kinda see these young country artists as sorta doing it again now, alot of these artists aren't really what I'd consider straight country, they're in fact very rock n roll, just with a certain country twang...
Also, I think it's sad that Mick and Keef aren't producing while their still able to produce. Time isn't on their side, they're getting old, they've lived hard. If they can't work together, then they should split and get to work on some solo projects or join a super group or some shit lol, imagine a Keef, Willie & Dylan supergroup instead of the Highwaymen, they could call themselves the The HIGH-men (stonerjoke) or The Traveling....hmm couldn't think of a good Traveling Wilburys joke, but you get the point... |
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| Bloozehound |
grrrr the tv has been hijacked, she has to watch CMT Crossroads with Heart & Winonna Judd LOL! It's actually not that bad, but Judd seems a bit outta her element. |
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Congratulations on 10,000 posts Polksalad69
You guys ever read this interview with Wayne? He's kinda crazy.
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Wayne Hancock interview
YOU WENT TO REHAB FOR WEED?
W.H.: I had to do it. It was something like a big bag a day. I basically just checked in for the fuck of it, to get away for a little while. Didn't do too much for me, I'm still smokin a lot of weed.
HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED WORKING IN THE ADULT VIDEO FIELD? YOU HAVE A PERFECT NAME FOR IT.
W.H.: No, not me. Shit, I get nervous pissing in the stalls when somebody else is standing there. No, I don't think I got what it takes for that shit.
YOUR MUSIC MAKES ME SMILE AND THINK OF ALL THE WOMEN THAT HAVE SHIT ON ME. DO YOU HATE WOMEN AS MUCH AS I DO?
W.H.: No. I love women. I've just had some runs of bad luck. In order to write good blues songs you gotta get thrashed a few times. It's good to be ditched if it makes good music.
DO YOU HAVE A PHILOSOPHY FOR DEALING WITH WOMEN?
W.H.: Yeah, stay home and watch porno movies. It's better for ya. Drink alot of beer, it'll make things easier.
IF YOUR WOMAN CALLED YOU ONTO THE JERRY SPRINGER SHOW TO TELL YOU SHE WAS ACTUALLY A MAN, WOULD YOU WHOOP HER ASS?
W.H.: That would suck. I'd probably leave, then fake my own death and hide out and grow fields of marijauna and get so fucked up that nobody would know who I was and even I wouln't know who I was. That's, like, the ultimate way out.
DO YOU THINK GAY MEN DOUCHE?
W.H.: Whoo-ee! I don't know noththin about that. That's out of my league.
HAVE YOU EVER HELPED A SHEEP OVER A FENCE?
W.H.: No, no. Never and I've never backed one up against a pond either.
WHAT ARE SOME TEXAS TERMS FOR BLACKS?
W.H.: I can't tell you that.
HOW ABOUT MEXICANS?
W.H.: No, no ,no. I know a bunch of good ones. but I can't say. I live around too many. I'll get in a world of fuckin trouble.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE LINED UP NEXT?
W.H.: I got another album to put out some time this year. I'm a musician, that's what i do. I'm gonna keep doing it as long as I can do it. When I can't do it no more,fuck it, I'll settle down and grow marijauna. It's always better than digging ditches - that's what I used to do. We call it a mexican backhoe.
ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE ME SOME GOOD NAMES FOR MEXICANS?
W.H.: Nah, man. I'd love to, but I can't. People want to peg me as a racist. I had trouble with my last booking agent because of stupid shit.I used the term, "Don't Jew me down", in front of this guy, and he's Jewish, and he got real pissed off about it. Me, if I was Jewish, I wouldn't even give it a second thought.
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See the Innocence of Wayne coming through where the interviewer was trying to get him into trouble? Wayne is basically a really nice guy who wishes it were still the 1950s. When he's on the road, his favorite bands to listen to are The Glenn Miller Orchestra and Bob Willis and His Texas Playboys. That's the closest he comes to being a "playboy." |
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Thanks beer. Never saw that interview. Wayne's a riot. If you know him you can smoke him out before the show. He's always talking how he's going home alone. We were talking about him after the show. One of the guys said, "Junior Brown's wife is hot..." and Wayne replied, "I'd f*ck her." He also told the same guy he got kicked out of the Broken Spoke for going in with a black guy. Wayne said, "I don't know what you call them these days." |
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| mac_daddy |
i am sure you folks interested in this thread will be interested in hearing my recording of steve earle and the bluegrass dukes from last weekend. the guy is a living legend, and his blugrass/roots thing is fantastic. |
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i am sure you folks interested in this thread will be interested in hearing my recording of steve earle and the bluegrass dukes from last weekend. the guy is a living legend, and his blugrass/roots thing is fantastic.
is it the 2004-07-03 show mentioned on this thread?
http://www.novogate.com/board/2891/197888-1.html
just looked
http://www.taperfriendly.com/
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is it the 2004-07-03 show mentioned on this thread?
http://www.novogate.com/board/2891/197888-1.html
just looked
http://www.taperfriendly.com/
i guess so. both shows are torrenting using the taperfriendly tracker.
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here is the *.torrent file if you want it.
http://macdaddys.gotdns.org/files/steve_earle2004-07-03macdaddy.flac16.torrent
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| Bloozehound |
Awesome, Thanks Big Mac! |
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Any of yawl heard of this dude..
http://www.kevinfowler.com/
He's currently the hottest act going on in the lone star state, some serious redneck schitzel, yawl might dig it. |
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Any of yawl heard of this dude..
http://www.kevinfowler.com/
He's currently the hottest act going on in the lone star state, some serious redneck schitzel, yawl might dig it.
Never heard of him. Texas Hellbilly's never mentioned him. Scott Biram, Sean Reefer or Dale Watson get mentioned tho... |
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�Traditional country� bagin in the early 1930s when Jimmie Rodgers became the first national country music star. Rodgers brought the formerly rural music into the industrial era by streamlining the music and lyrics; in the process, he made the genre a viable commercial success. �Old-timey music� faded in popularity except for the strain that morphed into bluegrass under the auspices of Bill Monroe and his Bluegrass Boys. For the next 40 years, most country music fell under the traditional country umbrella, regardless of whether it was the big-band dance music of Western swing or honky tonk. The majority of the popular artists from the '30s and '40s � Acuff, Eddy Arnold, Ernest Tubb, Hank Williams � became the foundation of the Grand Ole Opry, a weekly radio broadcast that became the definitive word of country music. This generation of musicians inspired all the artists that emerged in the following two decades, who put their own spin on traditional country. Following the emergence of rock & roll, country music began to incorporate more pop production techniques with the help of Chet Atkins and others, and although this Nashville sound was smoother than the music of the '40s and early '50s, it still conformed to the conventions of traditional country. Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, John Anderson and David Allan Coe helped Country withstand the popularity of disco and punk in the 1970s. It was in the 1980s when country music really started to suck after Nashville realized that watered-down country was number one in many markets and second only to rap in others and began selling utter bullshit to the general populace. Garth Brooks too country to the football stadium in rock-concert like productions with fireworks, etc. Cool country players like Junior Brown and Robert Earl King were virtually underground, only getting airplay on college and non-profit �community� radio stations.
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I wonder what Hank III's legacy will be in the context of all this. Today's the first time I have ever actually heard the kid. But he does play C&W the way I like it....shitkicking and raw. But at any rate he does like to use profanity alot. LOL. |
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Which Hank III album did ya get ? |
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