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17th July 2006 06:52 PM
Factory Girl I'm listening to this for the first time, and its not at all what I expected! He covers "I'm a King Bee" and does a really raw, bluesy version. I can see why he admired the Rolling Stones.

The rest of it has a "Kinks" sound. It is so very different from latter day Pink Floyd. Its possible that if Syd stayed on , PF may have gone in a different direction.

More later...
17th July 2006 08:00 PM
pdog I got that off Pink roberts Torrent site, haven't listened yet!
Sounds good!
18th July 2006 04:41 AM
Zack Bookmark as:
Format: CD
Catalog: Night Tripper Productions
Misc.: Gold CD
Produced: Made In Germany
Date: 66
Sources: 1966- 1970 1-2. 1966 studio recordings dubbed from original EMI disc acetate 3. 1967 studio recording dubbed from original EMI disc acetate, alternate mix 4-5. February 27, 1967 studio recordings, Sound Techniques Studios, Chelsea, London 6. 1967 studio recording alternate mix, different from U.S. 45 7-9. May 4, 1967 television performance from "Look of the Week", BBC2 10. July 1967 radio broadcast from Radio Carlisle, Scotland 11. September 13, 1967 live performance, Star Club, Copenhagen, Denmark 12,13. October 1967 studio recording, De Lane Lea Studios, London 14. August 1967 studio recording, final Pink Floyd 45 w/Syd 15-17. February 1970 radio broadcast "Sound Of The Seventies", BBC 18-21. Syd's only live solo appearance Royal Festival Hall, London, June 1, 1970 [6.6.70, Extravaganza '70, Olympia, London] 22. It's a mystery!! 23. Alternate mix from U.K. mono version of "Saucerful of Secrets", recorded October 1967 De Lane Lea Studios, London


1. Lucy Leave
2. King Bee
3. See Emily Play
4. Arnold Layne
5. Candy And A Currant Bun
6. Flaming
7. Pow R Toc H
8. Astronomy Domine
9. Interstellar Overdrive
10. Reaction In G
11. Stoned Alone
12. Vegetable Man
13. Scream Thy Last Scream (Old Woman With A Casket)
14. Apples And Oranges
15. Baby Lemonade
16. Dominoes
17. Love Song
18. Terrapin
19. Gigolo Aunt
20. Effervescing Elephant
21. Octopus
22. Clowns And Jugglers
23. Mystery Bits
24. Jugband Blues

Total length: 73:48

Comments: It is a collection of lots of Syd stuff. Some of which is of good quality, some bad. There are a few common tracks which I believe are the standard released versions (Emily, Candy and a Currant Bun etc.) but some other rarer tracks of very good quality - Scream Thy Last Scream, Vegetable Man, Lucy Leave, King Bee. It also contains radio recordings of Reaction in G and Stoned Alone. These are not of such good quality. Also there is a few tracks of Syd supposedly during his only live solo performance (1st June 1970 I think) where he plays Baby Lemonade, Evervescing Elephant etc. but I'm not sure about these. The quality is poor but it is definately Syd, and it's definately live. The CD finnishes with a recording of the backwards message from the Wall. -ANONYMOUS

The majority of the source notations are correct. However, I think a few things should be pointed out in all fairness. Here are my notes about each track:

1-2) These sound fantastic! By FAR the best quality versions to appear anywhere. Each new Syd RoIO that has appeared in the past year has contained these songs with slightly better quality than the others. Let's hope this trend continues! This disk contains a few pops and crackles, but both songs are very listenable.

3) This puts the version on the Psychedelic Dungeon CD to shame. There are a few pops, but not nearly so many as before. Sadly, the actual difference between this mix and the official one is minimal.

4,5) Yes, they were recorded on Feb 27, 1967, but there's nothing terribly odd about that. They're simply the normal 45 versions of the songs, probably pinched from the Shine On set or the CD Full of Secrets DJ disk.

6) Obviously recorded from vinyl, but which ? This alternate mix is not amazingly different from the Piper version. It's nice to have, but isn't the nicest part of the disk.

7) This track is actually Pow R Toc H, some DJ's prattling, and Astronomy Domine. That means that all of the following track numbers will be out of synch with the track listing above. The quality is quite good. There's some tape hiss, but remarkably little.

8) The final of the "Look Of The Week" songs. This version of Interstellar Overdrive is slightly muffled, a bit rambling, but still a good listen. At the end of this track is a snippet from an interview. It *might* be Paul McCartney. I'm not a Beatles fanatic, so it might also be someone else, but it certainly does sound like Paul.

9) The complete date and source of this track is July 23, 1967 at the Cosmopolitan Ballroom, Carlisle, Cumbria, Scotland. Why the compilers chose to include this 30 second version of "Reaction In G" and exclude the 4 minute version of "Set The Controls.." is beyond me. However, again, there's little tape hiss. Much better than my prior tapes (although my prior tapes do contain StCftHotS)

[Actually, Carlisle (and Cumbria) is in England, but quite near the Scottish border. This error presumably originates with Jon Rosenberg ("A Journey Through Time & Space With The Pink Floyd"), although I'm willing to be corrected -- HEDONIST]

10) Stoned Alone = Reaction In G. This instrumental is muffled and in monophonic sound. It's not amazingly fun to listen to, but it is considerably better quality than what I've heard before.

11) More moronic DJ ranting and an amazingly keen version of Vegetable Man. There's little or no tape hiss or vinyl distortion. If it weren't for the DJ's nonsense, I'd say that this is the best version of VM to appear yet.

12) STLS is of sparkling quality. They may well have snagged this one directly from the Psychedelic Dungeon disk.

13) Apples & Oranges, as Arnold Layne and Candy and A Currant Bun, is the traditional 45 version. Nothing particularly amazing about it.

14,15&16) These are probably the best tracks on the disk, in my humble opinion. The vocals are distorted, the tape hiss is evident, and the guitar playing isn't the best. However, setting all of these things aside, these are remarkable tracks. The versions that I've had previously sound *MUCH* worse. I've always been particularly fond of this session for some reason. It's pretty clear that Syd's falling apart, but he really tries to keep it all together. Like always, the RoIO makers got the date wrong. The actual date is February 1971. Also, for some unknown reason, they chose to provide only 3 of the 4 songs Syd sang that night (omitting Terrapin).

17-20) These tracks are from Syd's June 6, 1970 gig in Olympia, London called "Extravaganza 70-Music and Fashion Festival". (again the RoIO compiler got the date wrong) The vocals are virtually impossible to make out until Effervescing Elephant, where they are merely hard to make out.

[After Effervescing Elephant you can hear someone, probably an audience member, shout for the Mike to be turned up because they "can't hear [his] voice". Nice to be able to hear this at last! -- HEDONIST]

21) Several EMI outtakes of Clowns & Jugglers edited together in a manner similar to that on the Vegetable Man LP, "Clowns & Jugglers (1-3)". Good sound quality, but fairly tame material.

22,23) The mono Jugband Blues... There are a few vinyl pops, but it is different from the typical version. Very nice.

24) The hidden message, played so you can understand it, from the song "Empty Spaces". Kinda cool to finally hear it.

Probably the most exciting find of them all, if it is genuine, is the photo included with MP of Syd in his garden. The photo is in color and shows a man that looks almost exactly like Syd squatting in front of and under some foliage with the sun shining across his face. Although the photo clearly shows the face and is in color, I can't swear to you that it really is Syd, because so few photos of Syd (taken in the 1980's) have ever surfaced. -SCOTT

The version of Interstellar Overdrive is listed as track 9 on the CD box, but it is actually track 8 on the CD. The previous two tracks, Pow R. Toch and Astronomy Domine, are combined as one CD track.

The Source listing says that this is from the "Look of the Week" show. However, this track is apparently from the UFO club on the 20th of January, 1967.

The same recording appears on "Rhamadam: Syd Barrett and the Dawn of Pink Floyd" (track 11) but it was taken from a documentary shown on Granada TV. The Ramadam version is of poorer quality with a narrators voice dubbed over the music.

According to the list of "Pink Floyd TV Appearances", Paul McCartney was interviewed for this documentary. That would explain why the Magnesium Proverbs version of IO ends with him talking. MWP
18th July 2006 06:59 AM
Factory Girl Thank you very kindly for the info.
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