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| parmeda |
ya know, jb? I've got this feeling that comes from way down past the gut...hell, past the ovaries even! We haven't seen, nor heard, any speculation of the Super Bowl stage...those fricken lips!
Do you think THAT would pull people out in groves? We know it would work like a charm here in the States, but could it do the same across the pond?
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| PartyDoll MEG |
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parmeda wrote:
ya know, jb? I've got this feeling that comes from way down past the gut...hell, past the ovaries even! We haven't seen, nor heard, any speculation of the Super Bowl stage...those fricken lips!
Do you think THAT would pull people out in groves? We know it would work like a charm here in the States, but could it do the same across the pond?
I'd pay to sit on the tongue, would you?
Hmmmm. Parmy, you have a great idea. Might save the Tour....I'd pay to sit on the tongue too!! |
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| glencar |
Will the FLF Bash finally be moved to London now? TIA! |
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| glencar |
You coming to NYC? I'm only going to NYC & Chicago. |
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| FotiniD |
While I do agree with Gazza's views and with many of the views expressed on this thread and while I do agree they're screwing us big time with all their pathetic excuses for cancelations, I can't help but wonder why you guys feel so surprised by all this.
Please don't get me wrong; what I'm trying to say is that we didn't wake up one day and realized the Stones are greedy bastards. We've known this for years before the 2006 tour fiasco! They've never in the past been a band to show any respect for their fans and we've even "joked" about this in the past. Masochists? Perhaps! But it's not exactly "news".
I guess they're the same ego-inflated band they've always been, post 1970 at least, just getting older. What is changing is our attitudes towards this and for how long we can put up with it. But I don't understand the epiphanies - we knew this guys! We knew this, if not from the very start, then for the last thirty years 100%. They do like what they're doing, but it's the $$$ that come first. And since they've evolved (or downgraded) to a huge circus that employs hundreds (or thousands, if you count all the organizational aspects etc.) of people on every tour, you're not only talking about the $$$ of four band members (which is big enough an interest on its own), you're taling about a whole lot bigger profit.
Yes, they're greedy. Selfish. Ungreatful.
But personally, and sadly, I knew that and we all knew that already  |
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| ListenToTheLion |
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kahoosier wrote:
Well, I have to agree with Gazza, some of us are finally waking up! I have followed the group for decades, and thru it all it would have been hard to find a stauncher supporter unless it is BV who runs IORR. I have scheduled and re-scheduled vacations around tour dates. This year I even juggled job offers around the summer Euro tour; $1000's in lost income. The last two tours especially have become almost extended pilgramages for me rather than just seeing some shows. It is totally my fault, I blame no one else, I do not even regret it.
ON the phone the other day speaking with another rabid fan about opening night in Milan, it was almost an epiphany. I was looking over a stack of only partially or totally non-refundable airline tickets for June. I started thinking about the postponed /cancelled Asian Licks dates, and while a differnt situation, remember that I WENT to the Asian mainland, because as little as 1 week before China, Stones people were promising people out in my part of the world Shanghai and Beijing would happen despite delayed Hong Kong shows. AND HERE MY FREIND AND I WERE BLATHERING EXCITEDLY ABOUT FALL DATES...DATES THAT ARE NOT EVEN SURE YET, but around which I have manipulated earning opportunities to be in Hawaii in December just in case.
And I heard myself tell my freind,
" I just can't do this anymore, its time to get back to the real world." The luster is off the pearl. When I read Amsterdam was cancelled now, I realized finally and totally on an emotional level what I could talk about intellectually before without it sinking in; these bastards don't give a tinkers' damn about any of us! And I do not mean on a perosnal level; no one can expect them to care about us as individuals and our losses. But 40 years at the top and Mr. Cohl's very successful manipulations since 1989 have led them to belive in their own invulnerability. They have absolutely no concern for their fan base as a collective and have moved into an arena of arrogance that stinks from half a world away.
There will be shows, and I will go if conveniant. But I can no longer follow whereever they lead after using the tickets already paid for on this tour.
Post of the month! Well said. You express my feelings 100% . |
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| egon |
good postin indeed.
i was gonna go to barcelona,
but i feel less & less like driving 4.5 hours to see them there (IF they re-schedule at all)
It's probably just gonna be Nice in August & then basta.
(and this is coming from a guy who owns ABB AND ABB special edition as well as the don't stop single...)
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| egon |
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PartyDoll MEG wrote:
At least you still have Nice with our friend Gazza!!!
LEt's 1st make sure it doesn't get cancelled!
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| Gazza |
It should be OK...I'll still be there anyway. I face the prospect of castration from Mrs Gazza if I dont go! |
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| LadyJane |
This thread makes me very very sad.
And yet another TEE shirt offer from RS.COM is in my incoming mailbox.
WTF is going on with these guys???
You really read these Boards? See how disillusioned your true blue fans are, guys??
Shakin my head.
LJ. |
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| egon |
ok, think positive;
I shall book a hotel in Nice this weekend.
It'll be ok, It'll be ok, It'll be ok... |
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| ListenToTheLion |
I still have tickets for Brussels but I don't give a shit anymore. I'll send them back, get my money and buy tickets for any band that comes along and cares about his fans. Hopefully Steve Earle will tour Europe this autumn... |
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| Gazza |
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LadyJane wrote:
This thread makes me very very sad.
And yet another TEE shirt offer from RS.COM is in my incoming mailbox.
WTF is going on with these guys???
You really read these Boards? See how disillusioned your true blue fans are, guys??
Shakin my head.
LJ.
on every tour theres a certain undercurrent of dissatisfaction on the various boards about the way the Stones treat their fanbase. To a degree thats natural, as you cant please everyone.
However, the level of disillusionment on THIS tour from day one on numerous issues is WAY in excess of anything I've ever witnessed before - and thats from hardcore fans.
When you see so many long-term fans for whom the Stones have been a way of life for decades coming towards the end of their rope, then you can only imagine what thats going to be like for those who are less fanatical about the band than we are.
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| egon |
maybe this is what the really meant with "a bigger bang". |
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| Gazza |
more of a 'nuclear explosion' as at the end of it all, they'll have no fans left...
Keith and the cockroach will be on their own after all! |
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| LadyJane |
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Gazza wrote:
Keith and the cockroach will be on their own after all!
Oh they'll always have me. Til I take my last breath on this Earth I'll be a fan.
Just don't care to feel and see others feel taken for granted. We deserve better.
LJ. |
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| Gazza |
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LadyJane wrote:
Oh they'll always have me. Til I take my last breath on this Earth I'll be a fan.
Just don't care to feel and see others feel taken for granted. We deserve better.
LJ.
Oh I'll be a fan of their music until I'm in a pine box, and probably beyond
How much longer I'll be motivated to spend my hard-earned cash indulging them is a different dilemma entirely, however, as whatever it is they stand for or represent these days is something I cant and dont wish to relate to. |
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| jostorm |
"Keith and The Cockroaches", what a fab name for a band....
Well, I was dpressed already, reading all this hasn't made it any better....
LJ wrote:And yet another TEE shirt offer from RS.COM is in my incoming mailbox....
This is actually MY MAIN GRIEVANCE with them!
Ok, accidents can happen and in a way aren't avoidable, but it is the handling of this whole affair that is gradually but surely turning me into a "not-longer-a-Rolling-Stones-fan".
They have my email address to send all their tacky offers to, but they don't seem to have it when it comes to writing to me at all with a standard apology and a choice to reclaim my hardearned money, which I very by the way do not earn living the R&R star life.
Madrid went down the toilet, and the Madrid tickets I'd agreed to swap for Amsterdam2 tickets went the same way. All that is left is Berlin, and I'm leaving it at that. The way I feel about it now, I won't even bother in 2007.
Yes, I used to love them and take as many concerts in as I physically could without being committed under the Mental Healths Act by my husband, but those days are truly over!
The money grabbing I can forgive, the "treating me like a floormat" somehow I can not!!! |
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| Ihavelotsajam |
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Saint Sway wrote:
people here are slowly finally catching on to this
funny
It's funny because people are saying "after this I shall no longer be naive" as if "after this" the Stones are gonna go on for years and years more, and as if the people are not going to be taken advantage of for years and years into the future, when really, your epiphanies seem to have come at the very end of the road.
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| Gazza |
Not really..its been a gradual thing for me, personally, over the last couple of years
1. Far less shows this time around than before
2. Less interest in collecting every new show when I used to be obsessive about it
3. Not buying every new 'product' (Live Licks was the first new release in 25 years that I didnt buy on its release date. I waited a couple of months until it was in the bargain bins where it belonged. 'Rarities' I skipped too although I got it as a Xmas present. I only got the special edition of ABB two weeks ago because I noticed it available on Amazon for about £4 or so - about 20-25% of the original price)
4. Not buying any official merchandise from rs.com at all.
5. Refusal to pay more than £100 for a ticket (including charges and fan club fees), even though its FOS/Block A or nothing
Showing your displeasure by not opening your wallet as readily as you used to can be done in many ways over a long period of time.
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| Angiegirl |
This is it!
I'll be known as a Beatles fan from now on.
No cancelled shows. |
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| Joey |
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Angiegirl wrote:
This is it!
I'll be known as a Beatles fan from now on.
No cancelled shows.
Who Fan ... ?!?!
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| Angiegirl |
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Joey wrote:
Who Fan ... ?!?!
I could even consider the Who, yes. |
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| christijanus |
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Angiegirl wrote:
This is it!
I'll be known as a Beatles fan from now on.
No cancelled shows.
Angie.... van de drie |
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| Joey |
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Angiegirl wrote:
I could even consider the Who, yes.
You are much loved by Joey
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| Gazza |
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Joey wrote:
Who Fan ... ?!?!
Ya gotta hand it to the Who. Even when one of them croaked it 4 years ago, they were back onstage again while the dude was still warm and before he'd even started to smell.....
Makes the Stones' excuses for cancelling look pretty lightweight by comparison!
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| Angiegirl |
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christijanus wrote:
Angie.... van de drie
ik niet snap? |
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| Angiegirl |
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Gazza wrote:
Ya gotta hand it to the Who. Even when one of them croaked it 4 years ago, they were back onstage again while the dude was still warm and before he'd even started to smell.....
Makes the Stones' excuses for cancelling look pretty lightweight by comparison!
Or ethical?
Nah, who am I kiddin'. |
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| Joey |
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Gazza wrote:
Makes the Stones' excuses for cancelling look pretty lightweight by comparison!
Damn Straight !!!!!
The tour is over ......
... just teasing .
J " Snuggles " Fly ! |
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| FPM C10 |
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Angiegirl wrote:
This is it!
I'll be known as a Beatles fan from now on.
No cancelled shows.
Yeah, but there WERE those shows Ringo didn't show up for. Jimmy Nichols my arse.
No Ringo - No Beatles!
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