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IanBillen wrote:

I am truly amazed how many folks are ranting and raving for, or against this supposed outake album or "Tattoo You II" which it has already been dubbed. Why, you ask? Quite simply, we have NEVER heard any of this besides these boards.....
I haven't heard ANY, that's right not one ioda from a reputable source to the band or any band member themselves make any reference to salvaging outtakes or going into "the can" as they say for anything. Not even a hint of it.
So the idea of the outtake album is for the most part..... rubbish and rumor. This is entirely 100% hear-say and what people have made up or heard. There has been absolutely no evidence whatsoever of any outtakes or lack of new material, going to "the can" from any of them or people that represent them. What I have heard from people working on this thing is that there is plenty of new stuff.
I have no idea when the new album is coming. I have no source. But I go by what reputable sources state. Words from people directly involved:

Don Was said=Some Stuff from the 2002 sessions will be worked on and their are new songs they will try.
Mick=We will hopefully try and record the material on the road as we did with Stripped with technology and all.
Keith=We recorded in all sorts of places on tour, even hotel rooms
Ronnie=We have lots of new stuff

And all of this before they even officially enter the studio to work this thing out!

All this plainly tells you there is infact alot of new material already and that there are plenty of things to get started on an album with or have been already started. I am sure by the recording sessions ending there will be loads to sift through to try and hone in one what should be mixed and polished for the album. In my opinion, by the end of the recording sessions this summer or mid to late summer this album will have more material written for it than any Stones album since....well I hate to use the normal saying but since Some Girls. From the things Keith has worked on in his basement he has kept, to the 2002 sessions, to writing and recording on the tour, to the sessions that are about to begin. No Stones album since Some Girls has had so many writing and recording possibilities. I am not saying it will be better than every album since Some Girls. I am just stating they have been working this thing up for a long time and in alot of places. and there is even more to come. Don't go by what a "reliable source" says. Go by what THEY say.
Ian

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T&A wrote:
Doesn't mean it's not true. Where there's smoke....

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nankerphelge wrote:
Since I've been frequenting these boards, I have found that there are a few people here that are close enough to what is going on, and their info has been pretty damn reliable. Enough for me not to poo poo it, simply because the person involved doesn't carry an Official Rolling Stones business card and secret decoder ring!

By the way, I heard the working title of the release is "Nasty Rumours"

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Gazza wrote:
Theres quite a few folks here who post - not regularly - but who I know for a fact are very close to the band and the Stones organization and whose word I have a lot of faith in.
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nankerphelge wrote:
By the way, I heard the working title of the release is "Nasty Rumours"

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Gazza wrote:
>"Don Was said=Some Stuff from the 2002 sessions will be worked on and their are new songs they will try".

That - as far as I can tell - suggests left over songs being reworked.

I've never doubted there will also be post-2002 songs as well

a couple of weeks ago, certain people were rubbishing the "Stones in the studio" rumours just because they werent recording on the rumoured/planned date of 20th May that some people held sacrosanct. Its now common knowledge that those sessions were merely postponed for a couple of weeks and that the band are now in France about to start recording. It was also confirmed by Charlie in late April that they were to start recording in "about a month". See the "Jazzwise" interview posted elsewhere on this board. Even he didnt get it 100% right. Something obviously came up that postponed the session for a brief time.

I've said it before, Ian...most reliable advance stories youre going to hear about the band's movements, sessions and tour dates will come from fans who happen to be well connected and you'll find them posted on boards like this one. Just because a few people overspeculate and let two and two make five once in a while doesnt mean that the only reliable info youre going to get regarding the band is from an official source. Its up to the reader as to which source of info they trust. Theres quite a few folks here who post - not regularly - but who I know for a fact are very close to the band and the Stones organization and whose word I have a lot of faith in.
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Diedre wrote:
I think people connected to the Stones don't always have the facts. I also suspect that misinformation and incomplete information is "leaked." That's true of any corporation, band, organization, etc. It makes it easier to operate. Especially with people breathing down necks, stalking, etc. Such as a small handful of Stones fans seem to like to do. It's just weird to read Stones boards and have people to claim to know what these guys are doing and where they are on *any* given day. "Mick is in Africa!" "Keith is in LA!" Who knows and why does anyone care? Let 'em have a life and maybe, if they want to, make a record, tour, whatever.

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