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ThatsWhatISay |
I was just listening for the first time to the bootleg recording from Prague, Letenska Plan.
Keith messed up the whole opening chord so bad that I could hardly figure out it was Brown Sugar what he was playing. And the same goes for many other boots from the Licks Tour, it was kind of miracle if he didn't mess it up.
So what's up with Keith?! Has he become so nervous that he is unable to do the opening chord properly?! I think it's kind of embarassing.
Pls don't reply like "Don't be deliberately negative for no good reason"...I think this is something to worry about :-( |
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LadyJane |
Let's see:
The man is 60 years old.
The man has bad arthritis in his hands.
The man takes the stage under the influence of Alcohol and Drugs.
The man is HUMAN.
I think that answers your question.
LJ. |
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NHStonesfan |
The same reason Larry Bird couldn't
suit up and get 20 points and 10 rebounds
at age 40.
Luckily in music Keith past his prime
is better than no Keith/no Stones |
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ThatsWhatISay |
Yeah, thats all true, but we know that if Keith has to get it right, like when a show is recorded for a DVD release he never fails. So why can't he always concentrate like this on playing?!
When did he get arthiritis? That's really a big handicap, especially for a guitar player :-( |
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Main Offender |
quote: LadyJane wrote:
Let's see:
The man is 60 years old.
The man has bad arthritis in his hands.
The man takes the stage under the influence of Alcohol and Drugs.
The man is HUMAN.
I think that answers your question.
LJ.
Most of what LJ says is true. But the comment about always being under the influence is possibly not true. Unless LJ is Keith's personal assistant and sees the drug and drink taking first hand. That one comment was not needed.
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LadyJane |
LOL...Main Offender...NO ONE...and I mean NO ONE loves Keith more than I do.
I have defended that man since since I was 15 years old and continue to do so today.
NO I am not his Personal Assistant, but let us face the facts. He's faced nearly all the time he's on stage. He's PROUD of it.
I'm not judging him..I'm faced nearly every damn night.
My point was...Keith is human. He has flaws as do we all.
That is what makes him so great!!! He is who he is and doesn't give a fuck about pretense.
LJ.
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Main Offender |
He's human for sure. I did not mean to offend you, but I will stand up for Keith until I die. Probably after I die too. I suppose I'm getting tired of hearing this fact repeated so often and I'm possibly in denial. Peace. |
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LadyJane |
You didn't offend me.
I say, next Tour, you and I be Keith's Personal Assistants.
LJ. |
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Main Offender |
LJ, you're on. I say we attend the recording sessions together too. Just to keep them on track! |
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Bloozehound |
Is it confirmed that he has arthritis ?
I've never been able to figure out if this was rumor or fact.
[Edited by Bloozehound] |
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Main Offender |
Yes Keith has talked about the arthritis openly in magazine articles.Not sure, but it might be the Uncut 60th birthday mag. (????) |
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Taptrick |
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Pictures of his huge swollen knucles, slower hand movement, and the fact that he won't play that standard Chuck Berry hammer on riff for more than a few bars anymore - are reasons I tend to believe he has arthritis. I certainly don't know for sure. He still seems to be able to get by and enjoy it though. |
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T&A |
he also confirmed it on the Matt Lauer/Today interview last year... |
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cwatts0462 |
well thats why people retire
so if its over its over case closed |
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glencar |
It's over when the real Charlie says it's over. |
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Main Offender |
I don't think the arthritis situation will cause Keith to give it all up. There are some good new medications for arthritic patients,my uncle is on one of them and now he golfs again. |
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Gazza |
>Yeah, thats all true, but we know that if Keith has to get it right, like when a show is recorded for a DVD release he never fails.
uh..one word - overdubbing!!!
As for the arthritis, Keith's had it for several years. Granted, his fingers look a lot worse of late, but the problem has been there for sometime. As far back as at least six or seven years ago, his fingers were so arthritic to the extent that he was no longer able to remove his skull ring. |
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Bloozehound |
Thanks for the info.
I don't follow the Stones as closely as I used to, hell I haven't even purchased a music magazine in years, but if Keiths admitted to this arthritic condition, then it certainly explains alot things.
There's certainly other things to factor in like age, years of heavy drug abuse ect... but I can't see how having arthritus would in any way be a positive thing to deal with(on top of the other stuff) regarding a creative person who works with their hands, medication or no.
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Ten Thousand Motels |
quote: LadyJane wrote:
My point was...Keith is human.
No say it ain't so. I refuse to believe it. |
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ThatsWhatISay |
quote: Gazza wrote:
uh..one word - overdubbing!!!
I listenened to the bootlegs of the last dvd shows as well and there is no remarkable difference between them. So I think if Keith pulls himself together he's "VERY" able to play well. |
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J.J.Flash |
quote: Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
No say it ain't so. I refuse to believe it.
Damn right my brother!! Thanks, you have the same point as mine!
God bless ya! |
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T&A |
As a very close follower of Keith's playing for 30 years, I can say that I noticed (for the first time) a diminished ability on Keith's part to play certain "figures" on the Licks tour. Routines and figures that used to come naturally to him - were either flubbed or 'diminished' routinely. Can't say whether it's the arthritis (seems logical) or not - but for those who say they heard no difference - you either aren't listening close enough or your don't know what to listen to - it's there, believe me. |
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gotdablouse |
Sounds interesting, can you share some details? The famous Chuck Berry hammer-on?
The worrying part here is that the man is barely 60, and his fingers look worse than the 90 year old's I've come across...Less than his guitar playing I'm more concerned about his being able to use his hands at all in a few years. His other joints can't be looking too good either? |
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padre |
There's three people that I seriously think will never die:
-Clint Eastwood
-Emmylou Harris
-Keith Richards
They are immortal. Mark my words. |
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jb |
quote: T&A wrote:
As a very close follower of Keith's playing for 30 years, I can say that I noticed (for the first time) a diminished ability on Keith's part to play certain "figures" on the Licks tour. Routines and figures that used to come naturally to him - were either flubbed or 'diminished' routinely. Can't say whether it's the arthritis (seems logical) or not - but for those who say they heard no difference - you either aren't listening close enough or your don't know what to listen to - it's there, believe me.
Sad, but true....Ithought it started in 97.... |
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Gibbons |
quote: gotdablouse wrote:
The worrying part here is that the man is barely 60, and his fingers look worse than the 90 year old's I've come across...
Not just his fingers. |
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gimmekeef |
Oh to be as full of life and still doing what I love at his age would be all I could ask for.Keith does not play at the same level he once did for one reason....he's aged...I for one am so glad we still have him in any form! |
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polksalad69 |
Wonder how Honeyboy Edwards plays at his age? Haven't seen him in a few years but he's scheduled for the Chi-Bluesfest in a few weeks. |
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jb |
quote: gimmekeef wrote:
Oh to be as full of life and still doing what I love at his age would be all I could ask for.Keith does not play at the same level he once did for one reason....he's aged...I for one am so glad we still have him in any form!
That's true...but let's not cover it up any longer....enough of the sucking...he puts down Jagger, yet he can't hold up his end of the band anymore... |
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Ten Thousand Motels |
quote: jb wrote:
That's true...but let's not cover it up any longer....enough of the sucking...he puts down Jagger, yet he can't hold up his end of the band anymore...
Oh, bullshit. |