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Topic: Bill and Stones on the UK Charts Return to archive
May 21st, 2004 09:49 PM
Soldatti Bill's "Just For The Thrill" debuted #149 on the UK Albums Chart and #17 on the UK Indie Albums. Sales aprox. are 2,000 copies. This album it's the No. 7 for Bill on the UK or US chart and is the Stone with more solo albums on chart:
1974 - Monkey Grip (UK #39, 1 wk on chart / US #99, 11 wks on chart)
1976 - Stone Alone (US #166, 5 wks on chart)
1982 - Bill Wyman (UK #55, 6 wks on chart)
1985 - Willie & The Poor Boys (US #96, 12 wks on chart)
2000 - Groovin' (UK #52, 3 wks on chart)
2001 - Double Bill (UK #88, 2 wks on chart)
2004 - Just For The Thrill (UK #149, 1 wk on chart)

I'm not counting "Jamming With Edward" (US #33, 11 wks on chart), but with that are 8 entries...

The Indie Chart is here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/top40/indie.shtml

The Stones are #183 this week with "Forty Licks", comming from #181 last week. This is his week 80 on the UK chart.

Two weeks ago "Singles 63-65" also debuted #178 on the UK Albums Chart and spent 1 wk on chart.

Contratulations to Bill...
[Edited by Soldatti]
May 24th, 2004 10:49 AM
jb Can you please update Worldwide sales figures per RIAA...have we broke the top ten yet with the re-certification? Have we gone ahead of Aerosmith or do we still trail by approximately 1 million in sales? have you learned yet whether Exile, Sticky Fingers, BB, and LIB have been re-certified?
May 24th, 2004 11:10 AM
Gazza Still behind Aerosmith in the US by about half a million album sales....

tsk tsk

I'd doubt the Stones would be in the top 10 worldwide. I'm sure theres lots of artists unfamilar to 'western' music fans who would have sold more. I mean, can you imagine what your sales would be like if you were the biggest selling act in India?
May 24th, 2004 11:12 AM
jb I just don't except those low sales figure #'s for the "big Four" albums...shockingly low..
May 24th, 2004 11:51 AM
Gazza they are indeed hard to believe, but there's no accounting for taste as we all know. "Exile" was however a double album prior to it's CD release, so that may account for relatively low sales. "Beggars" and "let it Bleed" didnt have singles released as "tasters" (well, SF Man was a US single but charted poorly because it was banned from airplay on most stations. Still hard to equate that with a low chart rating. Hasnt stopped other acts from having hits with 'banned' singles)

Thing is, in those days, most Stones albums charted high (in US and UK and I guess, most main markets) and would have stayed on the charts longer than they do nowadays. And Let it Bleed and Exile were released at the same time as high profile US tours. I guess even then the Stones were more a singles-band sales-wise than an albums band.

Sticky Fingers was the Stones biggest selling album (excluding compilations)until it was overtaken by "Some Girls" and then by "Tattoo You"
May 24th, 2004 01:14 PM
Soldatti The Rolling Stones sold more than 250 million copies worldwide between albums, singles and boots, and they are on the Top 10 worldwide.
Elvis and the Beatles are first and second, none knows which is first or second.
I read once on a magazine from 1998 that the Top 5 worldwide is this:
1. Elvis / Beatles (500 millions each)
3. Abba (300 millions)
4. Michael Jackson (280 millions)
5. Rolling Stones (250 millions)
I don't know if this is true but at least they are on the Top 10.

I have also an incredible information: Exile sold less copies on US than "Dirty Work" and "Undercover"!
According to Soundscan Exile sold 1.2 m. copies on US while both Undercover and Dirty Work sold 1.3 m. both!
Incredible...
[Edited by Soldatti]
May 24th, 2004 01:30 PM
Soldatti
quote:
Gazza wrote:
they are indeed hard to believe, but there's no accounting for taste as we all know. "Exile" was however a double album prior to it's CD release, so that may account for relatively low sales. "Beggars" and "let it Bleed" didnt have singles released as "tasters" (well, SF Man was a US single but charted poorly because it was banned from airplay on most stations. Still hard to equate that with a low chart rating. Hasnt stopped other acts from having hits with 'banned' singles)

Thing is, in those days, most Stones albums charted high (in US and UK and I guess, most main markets) and would have stayed on the charts longer than they do nowadays. And Let it Bleed and Exile were released at the same time as high profile US tours. I guess even then the Stones were more a singles-band sales-wise than an albums band.

Sticky Fingers was the Stones biggest selling album (excluding compilations)until it was overtaken by "Some Girls" and then by "Tattoo You"



Exile reached #1 on both UK and US. I read that sold 450,000 copies on UK and 1.2 m. on US. The record never re-charted on others years:

UK Date: 10/06/1972 - Run: *1*-3-4-5-6-11-14-11-16-19-18-27-40-39-34-30 (16/5/1 wks) US:#1/43/11/4

US Date: 10/06/1972 - Run: 10-*1*-1-1-1-2-2-3-3-6-7-13-17-18-20-24-33-45-56-61-61-64-66-80-86-95-94-119-122-132- (30 wsf)
06/01/1973: 138-142-141-138-138-137-142-142-146-149-153-166-187 (43/11/4 wks) UK:#1/16/5/1

Sticky Fingers also reached #1 on both UK and US, but the album had a lot of re-entries on the years and sold 3.5 m. copies on US:

UK Date: 08/05/1971 - Run: *1*-1-1-1-2-2-1-2-5-4-4-3-2-5-5-17-13-13-13-16-33-50-49-35-49 (25/15/5 wks)
Re #01: 02/07/1994 74 (1 wk)
Total # of weeks: 26-25c (Top 10: 15, Top 20: 20 Top 40: 22, #1: 5) US:#1/62/15/4

US Date: 15/05/1971 - Run: 10-*1*-1-1-1-2-2-3-3-2-3-3-5-5-8-12-12-12-16-18-28-30-32-35-38-40-41-44-56-75-75-105-109- (33 wsf)
01/01/1972: 126-141-149-148-146-149-159-154-170 (42/15/4 wks)
Re #01: 22/07/1978 149-139-137-134-196-182-182-180 (8 wks, 50 wsf)
Re #02: 11/10/1980 181-181-191 (3 wks, 53 wsf)
Re #03: 19/09/1981 136-133-180-198-198-195-191-192-192 (9 wks)
Total # of weeks: 62-42c (Top 10: 15, Top 20: 20 Top 40: 26, #1: 4) UK:#1/26/15/5

Beggars Banquet was Top 5 on both UK and US but didn't have help from singles and stayed on the charts for few weeks but still sold 2 m. copies on US:

UK Date: 18/12/1968 - Run: 9-*3*-3-5-3-3-4-7-16-16-0-0-17-0-0-0-0-28 (12/8 wks)
Re #01: 23/07/1969 31-0-0-0-35-31-0-0-39 (4-2c wks)
Total # of re-entries: 5
Total # of weeks: 16-10c (Top 10: 8 Top 40: 16) US:#5/32/4

US Date: 14/12/1968 - Run: 159-33-27-12-*5*-5-5-10-11-14-18-31-36-37-53-55-67-73-71-81-85-117-134-156-171-170 (26/4 wks)
Re #01: 27/09/1980 190-180-170-169-187-181 (6 wks)
Total # of weeks: 32-26c (Top 10: 4, Top 20: 8 Top 40: 13) UK:#3/16/8

Let It Bleed sold 3.3 m. copies on US according to Soundscan and got a good chart history on both UK /US:

UK Date: 20/12/1969 - Run: *1*-2-2-4-3-4-4-7-8-15-14-11-12-24-22-37-34-11-13-19-19-35-20-0-42-52-63-61-41-0-0-0-73 (29-23c/9/1 wks)
Total # of re-entries: 2 US:#3/44/10

US Date: 06/12/1969 - Run: 199-29- 5-*3*- (4 wsf)
03/01/1970: 3-4-5-5-4-5-6-6-18-17-17-20-21-26-28-33-47-47-44-65-65-67-78-81-93-97-120-122-147-158-153-149-168-165-190 (39/10 wks)
Re #01: 27/09/1980 184-182-182-177-186 (5 wks)
Total # of weeks: 44-39c (Top 10: 10, Top 20: 14 Top 40: 19) UK:#1/29/9/1

Some Girls sold 8 millions copies on US and 10 m. worldwide and his history on US was impressive:

UK Date: 24/06/1978 - Run: 30-*2*-4-4-3-4-7-12-13-14-14-22-30-34-32-46-46-38-45-46-45-56-46-49-0-74 (25-24c/6 wks) US:#1/82/23/2

US Date: 24/06/1978 - Run: 38-18-4-*1*-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-4-5-5-5-9-10-10-9-9-8-10-10-21-21-21- (28 wsf)
06/01/1979: 20-19-19-22-41-41-60-61-61-61-64-66-70-70-70-77-88-88-92-91-90-95-95-95-100-100-104-106-106-126-144-161-162-170-186-195-196-193-197 (67/23/2 wks)
Re #01: 11/10/1980 187-186-195 (3 wks, 70 wsf)
Re #02: 19/09/1981 155-145-135-133-128-128-124-136-134-158-175-173 (12 wks)
Total # of weeks: 82-67c (Top 10: 23, Top 20: 27 Top 40: 32, #1: 2) UK:#2/25/6

Tattoo You was even more incredible than Some Girls and sold 8 m. copies worldwide:

UK Date: 12/09/1981 - Run: *2*-2-3-6-10-10-15-24-28-35-34-38-62-73-73-70- (16 wsf)
02/01/1982: 70-62-71-59-73-73-42-48-81-73-90 (27/6 wks)
Re #01: 12/06/1982 100-99 (2 wks)
Total # of weeks: 29-27c (Top 10: 6, Top 20: 7 Top 40: 12) US:#1/58/22/9

US Date: 12/09/1981 - Run: 8-*1*-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-3-3-8-8- (16 wsf)
02/01/1982: 8-8-6-5-5-5-12-13-18-18-18-18-18-27-51-50-70-70-69-69-69-69-88-88-88-110-114-114-117-141-141-146-146-144-158-158-158-158-158-168-168-197 (58/22/9 wks) UK:#2/29/6

I have all the chart runs for Stones albums & singles. I can post other if somebody wants...
May 24th, 2004 01:40 PM
jb Thanks Soldatti...why the classic albums have not sold more, particularly since the Stones have been touring non-stop for the last decade, is very puzzling...
May 24th, 2004 04:44 PM
Gazza thanks Soldatti,thats pretty interesting.

As for sales, does it count the same when an "old" album is sold at a very inexpensive price as part of a sale? Sometimes you see albums at around a third of their normal price. How does that system work re: counting units sold.