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Topic: Whats the difference between Pete Townshend and Gary Glitter? Return to archive
May 20th, 2005 03:07 AM
Voodoo Scrounge How come they both got found doing the same thing, downloading child porn and storing it on their computor and yet Townshend isnt as frowned upon as Glitter.

BOTH of them are NONCES

BOTH of them should be banged up for GOOD
May 20th, 2005 04:33 AM
Gazza Simple - Townshend got done because technically in the eyes of the law even accessing such a site for research purposes is a criminal offence. The law in Britain as it stands doesnt differentiate between doing so for perverted reasons and doing so for research purposes. So even if a BBC team doing an undercover exposure on child porn were to pay to access a website they would be breaking the law and would be liable for arrest.

As far as I know actually, Townshend was arrested because he had paid with a credit card to gain access whereas Glitter was arrested and convicted because there were thousands of images stored on his computer

The fact that he got let off with a caution and wasnt prosecuted basically proves that the police accepted his story
May 20th, 2005 05:03 AM
Zack >BOTH of them are NONCES

And you are a troll.
May 20th, 2005 05:37 AM
Voodoo Scrounge So basically I could log onto the kiddie porn sites and if I got caught I could tell the police that I was "Researching".
Thats a load of bollocks. I dont buy that Townshend was doing any research. I think he was perving. Gary Glitter was definately perving and they should both be made an example of.
You dont need to log onto a kiddie porn site to know whats going to be on there. And why would a man, whose proffesion is guitarist, need to know about child porn?
I heard that he told police he was abused as a child. Well for fuck sake pete, you should know what went on and not have to see it happen to others!
Gary Glitter has been done and his name is mud (and rightly so). But Townshend gets away with it.
May 20th, 2005 06:25 AM
Hannalee The difference lies in the inaccuracy of your original statement; there were no pornographic images stored on Pete's computers. Moreover, quite unlike GG, he reported what he found to the relevant internet watchdog.

It isn't a question of him "getting away with it"; if the police or the tabloids or the industry thought he was guilty of anything more than poor judgment he'd have been hounded out of the country like Glitter.
May 20th, 2005 06:37 AM
Gazza
quote:
Voodoo Scrounge wrote:
So basically I could log onto the kiddie porn sites and if I got caught I could tell the police that I was "Researching".


you could, yes. See my example of a TV reporter doing the same thing for completely legitimate reasons. They still stand to be prosecuted as the law currently stands in the UK. See also Hannalee's post. Pete's credit card details were on a database, they didnt find anything on his computer.



quote:
Thats a load of bollocks. I dont buy that Townshend was doing any research. I think he was perving. Gary Glitter was definately perving and they should both be made an example of.




fact is, you "think" based on an ill-informed and ill-researched hunch - you dont "know".
The police investigated it and were presumably satisfied with his explanation. End of.
Something tells me they looked into the case in more detail than you or I did and decided he was guilty of nothing more than naivety.
Catching a high profile celebrity gives Operation Ore and the whole anti-child porn crusade much needed (and justified) publicity. If they had anything on him, they'd have thrown the book at him and would have been quite right to have done so.
May 20th, 2005 07:22 AM
Voodoo Scrounge I think the whole thing came too soon after the whole Matthew Kelly affair. That was a fuck up by the police and they didnt want another one like it
May 20th, 2005 07:35 AM
Gazza different type of allegation entirely, though and an entirely different police enquiry.

Matthew Kelly was (falsely) accused of child molestation. Townshend wasnt. If anything, I would imagine that having illicit material stored on or accessed from your computer is much easier to prove than a molestation charge.

The police didnt really "fuck up" in Townshend's case. It was Pete himself who fucked up because of his own stupidity. Something which seems to be widely accepted.
[Edited by Gazza]
May 20th, 2005 07:38 AM
Voodoo Scrounge Well Pead..sorry..Pete Townshend has fallen a long way down in my estimation.
Research, Naive, Molested my arse. Guilty more like
May 20th, 2005 08:00 AM
ListenToTheLion Wasn't Waddy Wachtel involved in child porn too?
May 20th, 2005 08:05 AM
gimmekeef For someone to speculate about whether someone was "involved" with kiddie porn (ie Waddy) without substantiating it is careless in my opinion.The difference between Pete and Glitter is one was convicted the other wasnt.....
May 20th, 2005 08:06 AM
J.J.Flash The Petey ain't no Jacko

I predict Joey's nervous breakdown.
May 20th, 2005 08:09 AM
ListenToTheLion
quote:
gimmekeef wrote:
For someone to speculate about whether someone was "involved" with kiddie porn (ie Waddy) without substantiating it is careless in my opinion.The difference between Pete and Glitter is one was convicted the other wasnt.....



I didn't speculate, I just wondered.
May 20th, 2005 07:17 PM
Soldatti
quote:
Whats the difference between Pete Townshend and Gary Glitter?


Pete is 100% talent, Gary Glitter a mix of talent (20%) and bullshit.
May 20th, 2005 07:26 PM
Monkey Woman
quote:
Voodoo Scrounge wrote:
Well Pead..sorry..Pete Townshend has fallen a long way down in my estimation.
Research, Naive, Molested my arse. Guilty more like


So basically, you believe him guilty because you want to believe him guilty.

We already know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Now it's obvious that for people like you, so is truth.
May 21st, 2005 02:44 AM
Child of the Moon This thread makes me sad. And right after Pete's birthday... you make a grown man cry.
May 21st, 2005 12:12 PM
sirmoonie
quote:
Voodoo Scrounge wrote:
How come they both got found doing the same thing, downloading child porn and storing it on their computor and yet Townshend isnt as frowned upon as Glitter.

BOTH of them are NONCES

BOTH of them should be banged up for GOOD



You are a piss necked geek, and none of the women on this board like you (they all told me that privately). In fact, most of them think you are gay and smell like a Venitian sewer.
May 21st, 2005 02:15 PM
Steamboat Bill, Jr. Hey dumbass, in case you didn't know police investigations are often quite thorough. Do you think Pete simply said "I was doing research" and the cops said "OK we believe you" and let him go? They investigated, were satisfied, and let him go without charge. Now shut the fuck up.
May 22nd, 2005 03:08 AM
Child of the Moon I think it's time for some Petey on the stereo right now! Lessee... I think All the Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes is up for me. Long live the Pete.
May 23rd, 2005 06:02 AM
Voodoo Scrounge If only you could hear yourselves.
Defending a dirty old man.
Why dont you all go and nonce off on a kiddie porn site. Dont worry guys. If you get in any trouble, I will tell the police you were doing research!
In response to the comment made by sirmoonie about the woman on this board. Well frankly Im not too bothered. The only woman in this world I need now is the one who answers my calls and types my letters at work!
And they told you all this in private? You mean they lifted your restaining order?
Enough said about Pete
[Edited by Voodoo Scrounge]
May 23rd, 2005 06:22 AM
Gazza
If Townshend had been found guilty of anything of that nature, even as a Who fan, I would have been quite happy to have seen him kicked to within an inch of his life in prison.

So youre labelling the rest of US now as potential child molesters as well, because we pointed out the facts that the police had researched this case better than YOU did?


you're excelling yourself, here....
May 23rd, 2005 06:34 AM
Voodoo Scrounge Sorry. Didnt mean to get personal. Just went into attack mode when someone started getting a bit personal to me. I, in no way, believe any of you to be nonces.

However, I do feel very strongly about the issue and will remain sceptical about Pete Townshend.
May 23rd, 2005 06:53 AM
Gazza Fair enough. you're entitled to your own opinion even if we agree to disagree. Cheers
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