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Jerry in Boston |
I took my chances with Ticket-bastard online for the Aug 23 Fenway show and on my confirmation page there was the "Instant Live" logo! I am also a KISS fan and their last tour was done by Instant Live (and yep, I bought all the shows). This could be fun if the Stones are doing it too. I can't see why the logo would be on the confirmation page for a Stones ticket if the company is not some how involved witht the tour. |
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Gazza |
whats that? They sell live soundboard recordings of each show officially?
The Who did that too on their last two tours (although with them charities benefitted). I wouldnt be surprised from a business point of view if the Stones did it.
Might balls up our plans to torrent as many 2005-06 shows as possible on this site though as we couldnt and wouldnt distribute legally released material, although we could torrent audience recordings of the shows I guess. |
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full moon |
The Black Crowes are doing this currently.......The sound is great..... |
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Phog |
The Pixies did this last year and every show I've heard has sounded great. If the Stones sell these shows I'll be pleased as hell. |
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Gazza |
gulp....100 plus shows at £15/$30 apiece..... |
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wisertime |
quote: Jerry in Boston wrote:
I took my chances with Ticket-bastard online for the Aug 23 Fenway show and on my confirmation page there was the "Instant Live" logo! I am also a KISS fan and their last tour was done by Instant Live (and yep, I bought all the shows). This could be fun if the Stones are doing it too. I can't see why the logo would be on the confirmation page for a Stones ticket if the company is not some how involved witht the tour.
Hi Jerry, you bought all the Kiss last tour shows ???!!!
It's the same set-list on each one !!!!!
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Madafaka |
Are expensive these discs? |
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Stray Cat UK |
Not normally expensive,but....................it's the Stones,so probably overpriced and over produced !!!!!!! |
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KeithRichards |
It would be fantastic if they do that! I hope it's true! |
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glencar |
I'd love this if it turns out to actually happen. |
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Some Guy |
quote: full moon wrote:
The Black Crowes are doing this currently.......The sound is great.....
I got a copy of that today. He seems to have forgot some of the words. |
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Gazza |
quote: Madafaka wrote:
Are expensive these discs?
The Who shows worked out at about £15/$25+ each before shipping for a 2-CD set.
Cover art was pretty minimal but they were a nice collection. And if you bought them all, you could pay extra and get a special commemorative signed box set.
That said, the Who tour was about 20 shows. The Stones' tour will probably be about 110!
[Edited by Gazza] |
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glencar |
The Stones would be good to maybe every few shows as the setlist changes. That'll save some $. |
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TooTough |
Pearl Jam did that on their European Tour in 2000. Every show was featured. The sb was not perfect, but ok. |
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Gazza |
quote: glencar wrote:
The Stones would be good to maybe every few shows as the setlist changes. That'll save some $.
Personally as a collector I'd want every show, but I wouldnt BUY every show. If they did say 100 shows I'd probably try and arrange a 'pool' without a few other like minded fans where we would buy a certain amount of different shows each and trade for the rest. |
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Flairville |
Between us all I'm sure we could have every show without having to pay loads of ££ or $$. It sounds like a great concept! |
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Dan |
I doubt the Stones would do this but it would be nice! Maybe someone should explain to the band that they can make a lot more money off that concept than with something like Live Licks. Its also helps tours that only sell 5-8000 be incredibly financially successfull because they are grossing 50-100k additional each night just off the CDs. Or what the Stones should do is take it a step further and burn DVDs right off the video screen system! |
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glimmertwin50 |
I'm sure if they don't do this there will be plenty of unauthorized dvds and cds in circulation. There just won't be many soundboards in circulation for a while - but eventually there will be. |
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Soldatti |
The idea will not work with the Stones, they can't release 120 CD's from each show of the tour. |
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Jerry in Boston |
quote: wisertime wrote:
Hi Jerry, you bought all the Kiss last tour shows ???!!!
It's the same set-list on each one !!!!!
Actually, it's not the exact same setlist on every show from the last KISS tour! Most of the shows do have the same setlist however several shows featured rarely performed songs. Two shows for example featured a song that had until then never been done live. Two shows were filmed for a DVD as well and featured an extended setlist with additional songs not performed on the rest of the tour.
Having said that, yes, it's true that most of the KISS tour featured a standard setlist. However, each performance is unique in its own way. Paul Stanley frequently messes around with his melodies and it's a bit of treat to hear a different take on an old standard. I'm a huge KISS fan, have been collecting KISS shows for over 20 years, and can therefore hear differences in night-to-night performances of the same song. Some nights on the tour Simmons' voice sounded like crap... some nights on the tour the band was completely tight and made few, if any, noticable mistakes whereas on another night they stumbled on a few tracks.
Collecting a whole tour can be expensive but each show is different in its own way - even if it is the same setlist. |
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Jerry in Boston |
quote: Stray Cat UK wrote:
Not normally expensive,but....................it's the Stones,so probably overpriced and over produced !!!!!!!
Hmmm... well, the discs are purchased before the show and you're given a coupon to redeem afterwards. After the show you line up at the recording truck parked outside the venue and within about 15 to 30 mintues after the show ends they start handing out the discs! The line goes very, VERY fast, by the way. So as for "over produced" aspect, they really don't have any time to fidget with anything since the show is made available to you to take home on your way out!
As for price, I am of the opinion that $25 (which was the price for every 2-disc KISS show on the last tour) is a bargain for an excellent sounding concert. Especially since it's that actual show you witnessed! It's a fantastic idea and the best souvenir to take home from a show - again, in my opinion. |
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Jerry in Boston |
quote: Soldatti wrote:
The idea will not work with the Stones, they can't release 120 CD's from each show of the tour.
I should point out that on the last KISS tour they didn't make every show available on discs. They made MOST shows available. The shows that were made available were in certain venues that were all owned by the same company. It seemed to be a business deal with that particular venue owner. I believe the company was "Clear Channel" but can't be certain. Having said that there were about 40 shows available on disc from about a 50 show tour. |
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cooper |
I would buy them and i think it is a shame that all groups dont do this. it would be the end of bootlegers@! |
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Gazza |
quote: Soldatti wrote:
The idea will not work with the Stones, they can't release 120 CD's from each show of the tour.
yeah they can, because they have 120 different audiences and out of 40,000 people they could easily sell a couple of thousand copies immediately after the show at $25 for a 2-Cd set and more later by mail order. They'd do it no problem. If people are willing to spend $40 on a t-shirt or $50 on some stupid doll that looks like Charlie then they'd conceivably think nothing of paying $25 for a show they've just enjoyed.
Plus the number of idiots like me who would want every one of the shows is minimal. Its aimed at people who will pick and choose what show(s) they want
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Jerry in Boston |
quote: Gazza wrote:
yeah they can, because they have 120 different audiences and out of 40,000 people they could easily sell a couple of thousand copies immediately after the show at $25 for a 2-Cd set and more later by mail order. They'd do it no problem. If people are willing to spend $40 on a t-shirt or $50 on some stupid doll that looks like Charlie then they'd conceivably think nothing of paying $25 for a show they've just enjoyed.
Plus the number of idiots like me who would want every one of the shows is minimal. Its aimed at people who will pick and choose what show(s) they want
[Edited by Gazza]
Exactly! You're the Stones "idiot" who'd want all the shows and I was the KISS "idiot" who wanted all of theirs. LOL
You're also right about the merch pricing compared to the Instant Live discs souvenir. $25 for a copy of the show you just attended is a STEAL when compared to a $40 t-shirt that really doesn't "do" anything but look cool. LOL I'm not a t-shirt buyer anyway - I'm too old to go around wearing Stones or KISS shirts at this point in life anyway. I'd much rather buy the show and listen to it and enjoy again and again for years to come, especially considering the price I paid for the ticket! |
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wisertime |
I bought Black Crowes shows to Instant Live, not too much (5 for the moment). Some Crowes fans don't want to pay 25$ for a cd, they prefer to have the audience recordings for free.
When I see that the set-list is interesting, I buy the discs. Otherwise, I prefer a taper's recording which is allowed by the group. |
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Dan |
quote: cooper wrote:
I would buy them and i think it is a shame that all groups dont do this. it would be the end of bootlegers@!
Not really - bought one KISS show - didnt even attend, just gave the money to a friend, I traded for about ten others most of which I never listened to. Also traded for a bunch of Pixies discs too. They change the setlist around a lot. Mostly the same 30 out of 35 songs but change the order a lot.
Would LOVE it if the STones did this, I would just stay home and get one of you guys to pick me up some discs. |
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gimmekeef |
Its a great idea and I'm sure we alone would gobble up the whole set.Of course after the Rocks off edit I'd be suspicious the boys would have the warhorses pre-edited and pre-recorded and just drop in the 2-3 different songs from that nights show and burn em...Heck they'd be available after the first hour then! |
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Stray Cat UK |
I didn't realise you could purchase them at the gig,
although I doubt the Stones would let out recordings without doctoring them. I hope I'm wrong.
$25 IS A BARGAIN ,but the point I was making was that this is the Stones and I'd expect something like $40 - $50 for a 2cd .
Don't get me wrong ,I'd still pay for a show I'd attended or unusual set list...........well all of them actually.
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masoudi |
Hi Jerry
i saw your email re the Instant Live cd's. i am also a huge Kiss fan and saw two shows in Australia on the last tour. I have heard of the instant Live cds. i am hoping you will be interested in trading for a few of the Best Kiss Cds you got from the last tour. I see you got all of them and i hope there is 2-3 you can pick out which stand out. i dont think Instant live made any of the Aussie shows available only the US ones??
i have a huge Stones dvd list with all the best stuff available. if you are interested in trading a few dvds for some of your kiss cds then please email me at
[email protected]
Look forward to your reply
Cheers, Brendon
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