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| Ten Thousand Motels |
COBAIN VOTED GREATEST ROCKER
KURT COBAIN has been named the Greatest Hero In Rock 'N' Roll history by the readers of a British music magazine. The NIRVANA frontman, who died in 1994 aged just 27, beat newcomers PETE DOHERTY and CARL BARAT to the top spot and left the stars of years gone by in the shade. Rock legends KEITH RICHARDS, BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, JOHNNY CASH, SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY and MARC BOLAN barely scraped into NME magazine's top 50. The top ten is as follows: 1: KURT COBAIN 2: PETE DOHERTY 3: MORRISSEY 4: LIAM GALLAGHER 5: CARL BARAT 6: THOM YORKE 7: NOEL GALLAGHER 8: DAVID BOWIE 9: IAN BROWN 10: IAN CURTIS.
11/05/2006 14:00
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| ListenToTheLion |
I am sick and tired to read those lists |
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| Soldatti |
Average age of the voters?
15-18? |
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| glencar |
Another boring list that means nothing. |
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| PeerQueer |
While I loved the Grunge-era and had a mighty good time in those days, Cobain punked out big time. I still dig Nirvana (though prefer Pearl Jam)
By dying young he was the ultimage Rock cliche, the very thing he was supposed to be against.
John Cash fighting to the very end, blazing a final visceral trail with his rendition of "HURT"...shit, it don't get more Rock n Roll than that.
Period. |
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| Riffhard |
He's an overrated twit. He offed himself and youngsters hold him up as some kind of legend. Pretty f'ed up if you ask me. I'll never forget when Kurt Loder refered to Cobain as the Lennon of his generation! WTF? Bullshit! His entire recorded legacy is nothing short of a long suicide note. He ain't no hero. Just ask his fatherless daughter. Stupid list composed by stupid people.
Riffy |
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| The Wick |
Shows how rubbish music has become that he is considered a genius. Never liked them, never will. They spawned an era of people singing through their noses. |
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| Paranoid_Android |
What the fuck does the "GREATEST ROCKER" even mean???!!!???
Though, I do find it curious that BOWIE wa the only "old timer" to make the top 10...
But still...what the fuck does " GREATEST ROCKER" even mean?!?!?!?!? |
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| pdog |
quote:
Paranoid_Android wrote:
But still...what the fuck does " GREATEST ROCKER" even mean?!?!?!?!?
Boils down to the obvious, people are idiots and polls and lists are the proof. |
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| ebmp |
Pete Doherty? You can see what kind of list is this when this ass is on 2nd place.
Cobain ainīt no hero, he was just a depressed man, and a seriously overrated composer. Maybe the most overrated ever.
Pearl Jam is MILLION times better than Pearl Jam BTW |
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| FotiniD |
quote:
Riffhard wrote:
He's an overrated twit. He offed himself and youngsters hold him up as some kind of legend. Pretty f'ed up if you ask me. I'll never forget when Kurt Loder refered to Cobain as the Lennon of his generation! WTF? Bullshit! His entire recorded legacy is nothing short of a long suicide note. He ain't no hero. Just ask his fatherless daughter. Stupid list composed by stupid people.
I'll have to disagree Riffy! Cobain died no more than 12 years ago and it's still too early to appreciate his importance as a composer, lyricist and singer. I think in the years to come he will be more acknowledged for what he's left behind him.
I do believe he was the Lennon of his generation, as a matter of fact. It's just that generations change - the sixties/seventies were a whole different story than the nineties. You got "Peace" signs and flower children on the one hand, you have nihilism and depression on the other. But despite the differences, his importance is just the same, in my opinion. He was the voice of his generation -and if that generation is mostly depressed, that doesn't reduce his importance.
And regarding the whole suicide thing... I've been reading a lot of books and seeing videos on the issue lately, and trust me, the thing doesn't look like a suicide at all. With no fingerprints found on the gun he supposedly shot himself with, a triple lethal dose of heroin in his system, a suicide note with mixed handwriting and a paper with practised a's and b's and c's found in Courtney Love's handbag... well, it doesn't add up as a suicide to me...
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| Strange_Stray_Cat |
Greatest rocker is me. |
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| Ronnie Richards |
quote:
ebmp wrote:
Pearl Jam is MILLION times better than Pearl Jam BTW
That is an interesting point of view.
Anyways, Nirvana were far superior to the worthy and dull Pearl Jam |
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| Ronnie Richards |
quote:
PeerQueer wrote:
John Cash fighting to the very end, blazing a final visceral trail with his rendition of "HURT"...shit, it don't get more Rock n Roll than that.
Period.
Word. |
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| Gazza |
PeerQueer's post on Cash is 100% correct
Kurt Cobain the best rocker of all time...? He wasnt even the best rocker in his own house!!! |
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| Strange_Stray_Cat |
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Gazza wrote:
PeerQueer's post on Cash is 100% correct
Kurt Cobain the best rocker of all time...? He wasnt even the best rocker in his own house!!!
ROFL!!!!! |
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| FotiniD |
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Gazza wrote:
PeerQueer's post on Cash is 100% correct
Kurt Cobain the best rocker of all time...? He wasnt even the best rocker in his own house!!!
That's why I find most lists to be completely useless. What is their worth exactly? To make the fans proud and start flame wars? To inflate the artist's ego? To serve as a buying guide? I really don't get it.
I do however think Cobain was a really wonderful artist.
But then again it's also a matter of preference and different tastes, so... - another reason why lists are completely useless! Best rocker according to whom? And for what era? So subjective, all that stuff. |
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| gimmekeef |
Where did Britney Spears come in?.....fuck these teeny bop polls..... |
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| justforyou |
Pass the pipe, you rocker... |
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| Madafaka |
He isn't even the best rocker dead.
OMG! What a stupid list! |
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| Bruno |
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FotiniD wrote:
And regarding the whole suicide thing... I've been reading a lot of books and seeing videos on the issue lately, and trust me, the thing doesn't look like a suicide at all. With no fingerprints found on the gun he supposedly shot himself with, a triple lethal dose of heroin in his system, a suicide note with mixed handwriting and a paper with practised a's and b's and c's found in Courtney Love's handbag... well, it doesn't add up as a suicide to me...
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I belive that, he was killed.
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| Ihavelotsajam |
quote:
FotiniD wrote:
I'll have to disagree Riffy! Cobain died no more than 12 years ago and it's still too early to appreciate his importance as a composer, lyricist and singer. I think in the years to come he will be more acknowledged for what he's left behind him.
I do believe he was the Lennon of his generation, as a matter of fact. It's just that generations change - the sixties/seventies were a whole different story than the nineties. You got "Peace" signs and flower children on the one hand, you have nihilism and depression on the other. But despite the differences, his importance is just the same, in my opinion. He was the voice of his generation -and if that generation is mostly depressed, that doesn't reduce his importance.
And regarding the whole suicide thing... I've been reading a lot of books and seeing videos on the issue lately, and trust me, the thing doesn't look like a suicide at all. With no fingerprints found on the gun he supposedly shot himself with, a triple lethal dose of heroin in his system, a suicide note with mixed handwriting and a paper with practised a's and b's and c's found in Courtney Love's handbag... well, it doesn't add up as a suicide to me...
[Edited by FotiniD]
Cobain was a pretty accidental hero-- unlike Lennon, no social consciousness whatsoever, and way too wrapped up in himself to write about anything BUT himself. I guess that may reflect his generation, too, but I'm not so sure.
And as for the murder stuff, that is pretty much conjecture. His lyrics throughout his career are suicide-note enough for me, not to mention the ridiculous stuff in documentaries like 'Kurt and Courtney' that make the murder case even harder to believe.
That said, I think Nevermind is one of the most amazing records ever, of any decade-- you can argue on and on about the quality of the music on it, but the power in it is unbelievable, and is generally better than any single Pearl Jam album (although PJ have shown to have far more material in them than Nirvana had).
But I never cared much for what came before and after Nevermind (except maybe About a Girl on Bleach and the Unplugged set). In Utero is mostly way too self indulgent and Bleach is mostly just noise, which makes Nirvana generally overrated when you consider they only had one worthy album to give. And yeah, the fact that he's dead surely helps their status.
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| jb |
Leave to the Brits..contrary to what my close friend Gazza wants to believe, they truly loath Mick and the Stones. This poll , like the many other brit polls over the years, further feflects, evidences and or otherwise substantiates my allegations.
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
PSYCHIC: 'COBAIN WAS A 16TH CENTURY MURDERER'
NIRVANA star KURT COBAIN lived many lives as a "tortured and depressed" soul after murdering people in the 16th century, according to top psychic VICTORIA BULLIS. In her Beyond The Grave column in US men's magazine Stuff, the medium recounts a recent encounter with the tragic COME AS YOU ARE star's spirit - and assures fans he has "resolved his issues" after links to a terrible past. Bullis explains, "He's a tortured soul from many centuries ago. I'm seeing a lifetime in Europe around the 16th century where he herded a bunch of people into the dungeon underneath a castle and let them all suffocate. "Ever since then, he's never had a life where he wasn't feeling tortured and depressed."
In her eerie encounter, Bullis also reveals that Cobain's daughter, FRANCES BEAN, was a relative of one of the people suffocated: "He has a lot of guilt about her."
Meanwhile, the rock star's spirit, which also inhabited the body of a provocative early 20th century female trendsetter, plans to return to earth - as a great classical pianist. She adds, "He plans to be back in 15 years, and he'll be a child prodigy."
13/05/2006 10:04
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| corgi37 |
Just shows you how far down the pole the English has slid. They are a stupid bunch of pasty faced fuckers. And, notice how everyone on that list is a pasty faced fucker too!!! |
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| MrPleasant |
quote:
PeerQueer wrote:
John Cash fighting to the very end, blazing a final visceral trail with his rendition of "HURT"...shit, it don't get more Rock n Roll than that.
It didn't get more ballyhooing than that. |
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| PeerQueer |
quote:
MrPleasant wrote:
It didn't get more ballyhooing than that.
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Fuck that - and fuck you.
If you don't dig J. Cash, you are one ignorant fat pussy. |
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| MrPleasant |
quote:
PeerQueer wrote:
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Fuck that - and fuck you.
If you don't dig J. Cash, you are one ignorant fat pussy.
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| Gazza |
quote:
FotiniD wrote:
That's why I find most lists to be completely useless. What is their worth exactly?
space filler
Most music nowadays isnt worth writing more than a few words about and most modern journalist's grasp of musical history is tenuous at best - hence the obsession with stupid lists to pad out magazines and TV programmes , which only end up proving that the average member of the general public has a capacity for memory similar to the average squirrel as well as the intellect of a mutant.
as Bob Dylan once put it - "no one achieves immortality by public acclaim" |
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| Dan |
quote:
Ihavelotsajam wrote:
Cobain was a pretty accidental hero-- unlike Lennon, no social consciousness whatsoever,
Rock For Choice benefit
No On 9 benefit
Bosnian Rape Victims benefit
Of course that all could have been Novaselic's doing |
