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Rising gasoline prices destroyed the Nixon & Carter Presidencies .........Bushie43 is NEXT !!!!
Joey Ford ! ®
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Joey...whats left to destroy?......
Amen !!!!!!!
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Ethanol Fast Facts:
Ethanol is a clean-burning, high-octane fuel produced from renewable resources like corn.
A blend of 10% ethanol, 90% gasoline (called E10) can be used in any make or model of vehicle.
The U.S. has 87 ethanol plants, about half of which are owned by farmers and local investors.
Ethanol offers superior vehicle performance – the Indy Racing League will begin using it next year.
It takes only 35,000 BTUs of energy to produce ethanol that contains at least 77,000 BTUs of energy.
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Because ethanol fuels are made from renewable home-grown resources such as corn, they have proven beneficial to both the economy as well as the environment. From each bushel of corn, 2.7 gallons of ethanol can be derived, along with two other co-products: distillers' dried grains (a protein feed supplement for cattle), and carbon dioxide, which has a range of industrial as well as commercial uses. U.S. production of ethanol has surpassed the billion gallon mark and currently produces 2.2 billion gallons.
Half the automotive fuel in the United States could be replaced with ethanol from renewable agricultural crops and forest wastes, says a University of Florida researcher who has developed a biotechnology “bug” that converts biomass and other farm wastes into fuel.
“We can reduce our dependence on imported oil and lower the price of automotive fuel by reformulating our gasoline with ethanol derived from inexpensive farm wastes,” said Lonnie Ingram, a professor of microbiology with UF’s Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences.
His breakthrough technology – a genetically engineered E. coli bacteria – produces fuel ethanol from farm wastes such as corn stems, cobs and leaves. A related technology can be used to produce biodegradable plastics from biomass.
“With the cost of imported oil reaching record highs, we can use this new technology to produce ethanol for about $1.30 a gallon,” he said. “Ethanol will stretch the nation’s fuel supply and make gasoline burn more cleanly. Gasoline-ethanol blends also boost the octane rating of automotive fuel.”
Ethanol is a much cleaner fuel than petrol (gasoline):
It is a renewable fuel made from plants
It is not a fossil-fuel: manufacturing it and burning it does not increase the greenhouse effect
It provides high octane at low cost as an alternative to harmful fuel additives
Ethanol blends can be used in all petrol engines without modifications
Ethanol is biodegradable without harmful effects on the environment
It significantly reduces harmful exhaust emissions
Ethanol's high oxygen content reduces carbon monoxide levels more than any other oxygenate: by 25-30%, according to the US EPA
Ethanol blends dramatically reduce emissions of hydrocarbons, a major contributor to the depletion of the ozone layer
High-level ethanol blends reduce nitrogen oxide emissions by up to 20%
Ethanol can reduce net carbon dioxide emissions by up to 100% on a full life-cycle basis
High-level ethanol blends can reduce emissions of Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) by 30% or more (VOCs are major sources of ground-level ozone formation)
As an octane enhancer, ethanol can cut emissions of cancer-causing benzene and butadiene by more than 50%
Sulphur dioxide and Particulate Matter (PM) emissions are significantly decreased with ethanol.
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I don't know about that. You shouldn't combine it with driving though!  |
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time is on my side wrote:
Ethanol Fast Facts:
Ethanol is a clean-burning, high-octane fuel produced from renewable resources like corn.
A blend of 10% ethanol, 90% gasoline (called E10) can be used in any make or model of vehicle.
The U.S. has 87 ethanol plants, about half of which are owned by farmers and local investors.
Ethanol offers superior vehicle performance – the Indy Racing League will begin using it next year.
It takes only 35,000 BTUs of energy to produce ethanol that contains at least 77,000 BTUs of energy.
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Because ethanol fuels are made from renewable home-grown resources such as corn, they have proven beneficial to both the economy as well as the environment. From each bushel of corn, 2.7 gallons of ethanol can be derived, along with two other co-products: distillers' dried grains (a protein feed supplement for cattle), and carbon dioxide, which has a range of industrial as well as commercial uses. U.S. production of ethanol has surpassed the billion gallon mark and currently produces 2.2 billion gallons.
Half the automotive fuel in the United States could be replaced with ethanol from renewable agricultural crops and forest wastes, says a University of Florida researcher who has developed a biotechnology “bug” that converts biomass and other farm wastes into fuel.
“We can reduce our dependence on imported oil and lower the price of automotive fuel by reformulating our gasoline with ethanol derived from inexpensive farm wastes,” said Lonnie Ingram, a professor of microbiology with UF’s Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences.
His breakthrough technology – a genetically engineered E. coli bacteria – produces fuel ethanol from farm wastes such as corn stems, cobs and leaves. A related technology can be used to produce biodegradable plastics from biomass.
“With the cost of imported oil reaching record highs, we can use this new technology to produce ethanol for about $1.30 a gallon,” he said. “Ethanol will stretch the nation’s fuel supply and make gasoline burn more cleanly. Gasoline-ethanol blends also boost the octane rating of automotive fuel.”
Ethanol is a much cleaner fuel than petrol (gasoline):
It is a renewable fuel made from plants
It is not a fossil-fuel: manufacturing it and burning it does not increase the greenhouse effect
It provides high octane at low cost as an alternative to harmful fuel additives
Ethanol blends can be used in all petrol engines without modifications
Ethanol is biodegradable without harmful effects on the environment
It significantly reduces harmful exhaust emissions
Ethanol's high oxygen content reduces carbon monoxide levels more than any other oxygenate: by 25-30%, according to the US EPA
Ethanol blends dramatically reduce emissions of hydrocarbons, a major contributor to the depletion of the ozone layer
High-level ethanol blends reduce nitrogen oxide emissions by up to 20%
Ethanol can reduce net carbon dioxide emissions by up to 100% on a full life-cycle basis
High-level ethanol blends can reduce emissions of Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) by 30% or more (VOCs are major sources of ground-level ozone formation)
As an octane enhancer, ethanol can cut emissions of cancer-causing benzene and butadiene by more than 50%
Sulphur dioxide and Particulate Matter (PM) emissions are significantly decreased with ethanol.
Has that fat quadruple chin prick from Exxon bought all the ethanol plants to close them down yet?..And when I exxon going to pay back the govt for the Exxon Valdez mess? |
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time is on my side wrote:
Ethanol Fast Facts
I agree ethanol is better than gasoline and diesel, however it's still not a perfect solution. For example, it is a less strong fuel meaning you need more ethanol per mile than you need gasoline. Also, the production of ethanol consumes much more energy than the production of gasoline... |
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It's clear the technology is here (see below article) but the willpower is lacking. Recent governments (Bush & Clinton) have done absolutely nothing. The Bush's & Clinton's of the world have no vision. They're more interested in partisan politics and following poll numbers.
The world's dependency on oil is an illusion. Why are more countries (like the US) doing more to convert over and follow Brazil's lead???? Being dependent on unstable dangerous countries in the Middle East for your energy source is nuts, pure insanity especially when you don't have to be.
Ethanol is produced by bacteria that ferment and break down carbohydrate sugars, such as the starch from corn. Humans have been fine-tuning this process for thousands of years, although mainly to brew alcoholic beverages.
The study refined results from several previous studies by comparing the total energy that goes into making ethanol gas from corn, such as harvesting and refining, and comparing it to the energy needed to produce gasoline from fossil fuels. Kammen's team looked into levels of greenhouse gases produced by both the production and the use of each fuel.
They found inconsistencies and errors in the previous work, which had suggested ethanol gas might not be beneficial.
After correcting the errors—which ranged from incorrect unit conversions to reliance on data from outdated methods more than a century old—the researchers arrived at a very different conclusion: not only does corn-based ethanol gas reduce petroleum use by 95 percent, it also reduces greenhouse gas emissions about 13 percent, although that decrease is within a range of uncertainty for the imprecise data involved.
"Making ethanol from corn is a good thing if you want to offset fossil fuels from overseas," Kammen told LiveScience. "On the greenhouse gas side of things, it is not clear if corn, as grown today, is a good thing. We just don't know yet, but it appears to be a mildly good thing."
A woody solution?
While corn-based ethanol is an improvement over gasoline, ethanol from woody, fibrous plants would pack even more energy. Willow trees, switch grass, farm waste and specially grown crops are all feasible sources.
The main energy components of these plants are cellulose and lignin, which produce more energy per unit—in the form of breaking hydrogen bonds—than the starches from corn.
"It looks to be that you can get just about twice the amount of energy by going the cellulose route, and greenhouse emissions are very small," Kammen said.
Assuming replant rates equal harvests, there is a 95 percent emission reduction from producing cellulosic ethanol over gasoline production in all three production phases—farming, refining, and use.
However, the real benefits of ethanol gas are not yet fully known, Kammen said, and the advantages could be even greater.
Wheels in motion
In the United States, some 5 million of the cars and trucks on the road are "flex-fuel," meaning that they can run either on traditional gasoline or E85, a mix of 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline.
Converting an automobile to run on flex-fuel costs about $100.
"This is actually one of the cheapest possible transitions you can make," Kammen said. "It cuts the cost of fuel by half at the pump."
However, there are very few pumps offering ethanol fuel. Despite the number of flex-fuel automobiles—California boasts more flex-fuel than diesel vehicles—ethanol-blended fuel accounted for only 2 percent of all fuel sold in the United States in 2004.
While it doesn't yet make sense to convert the entire economy to corn-based ethanol, Kammen said, improved methods for processing corn or using other ethanol-rich materials could drive such a change.
"The people who are saying ethanol is bad are just plain wrong," Kammen said.
Brazil has converted nearly all its cars and gas pumps to run on a 96 percent ethanol fuel produced from sugarcane. Brazilians have already seen the benefits of sugarcane fuel—not only is it cleaner burning, but since it is produced within the country, it is half the price of imported gasoline.
Kammen and his colleagues have made the previous studies, as well as their new model and data, available on the UC Berkeley Renewable and Appropriate Energy Laboratory website: http://rael.berkeley.edu/ebamm/.
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Gerald Ford hated Israel...fuck him and his wife. Nixon hated Jews, but safed Israel!!!! Bush 1 never meet a Jew and Bush 2 loves Jews and Israel!!!!!!!!!!!!! carter hates Israel and was a diagrace to all dems like me.... |
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| Joey |
" Gerald Ford hated Israel...fuck him and his wife. "
FRIGGIN Funny !!!!!
Great Postin '
P.O.S.T.I.N. ..... Postin'
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I skied past Gerald Fords home at Beaver Creek near Vail. I was not impressed...
Gerald Ford was born in Omaha , NE
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The only way we will ever have cheap gas again is by going to Taco Bell. |
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The only way we will ever have cheap gas again is by going to Taco Bell.
Wow....thats great..on the floor laughin my ass off....thanks Some Guy! |
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| Joey |
**** IT'S PUB TIME ****
Bye Bye everyone ..........
Bye Bons !!!!!!
JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJACKY |
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| Some Guy |
The Bush Administration is looking into the high gas prices... so we can all chill. |
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The Bush Administration is looking into the high gas prices... so we can all chill.
That's usually a good sign. That or someone's about to get a cruise missile up their ass. |
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Shell unveils plans for 'biggest refinery in US'
Apr 28 11:03 AM US/Eastern
Anglo-Dutch oil group Royal Dutch Shell has announced plans to make its jointly owned Motiva refinery in Port Arthur, Texas, the biggest in the United States.
Shell founded the Motiva refiniery in 1998 with Saudi Refining and is considering increasing the output at the facility by 325,000 barrels per day.
"The project would make the Port Arthur Refinery the largest in the country," Shell said in a statement on Friday.
Output would rise to 610,000 barrels per day, higher than the 557,000 barrels per day produced by the ExxonMobil facility in Baytown, Texas, the current biggest in the country.
"Pending necessary regulatory approvals, Motiva would expect to initiate final engineering later in 2006 and begin construction in 2007," said Shell, while underlining that a final decision to expand the facility had not been taken.
"The new capacity would be projected to come online in 2010."
A shortage of refining capacity worldwide has been identified as one of the reasons behind the recent surge in crude oil prices. Oil companies have been accused of failing to invest adequately in new facilities.
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Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Shell unveils plans for 'biggest refinery in US'
Apr 28 11:03 AM US/Eastern
Anglo-Dutch oil group Royal Dutch Shell has announced plans to make its jointly owned Motiva refinery in Port Arthur, Texas, the biggest in the United States.
Shell founded the Motiva refiniery in 1998 with Saudi Refining and is considering increasing the output at the facility by 325,000 barrels per day.
"The project would make the Port Arthur Refinery the largest in the country," Shell said in a statement on Friday.
Output would rise to 610,000 barrels per day, higher than the 557,000 barrels per day produced by the ExxonMobil facility in Baytown, Texas, the current biggest in the country.
"Pending necessary regulatory approvals, Motiva would expect to initiate final engineering later in 2006 and begin construction in 2007," said Shell, while underlining that a final decision to expand the facility had not been taken.
"The new capacity would be projected to come online in 2010."
A shortage of refining capacity worldwide has been identified as one of the reasons behind the recent surge in crude oil prices. Oil companies have been accused of failing to invest adequately in new facilities.
That would be a start in the right direction. But let's not count our chickens just yet. I mean democrats have not allowed a new refinery to open in thirty years. I have no doubt that they will fight mightily to prevent this from happening. Which,of course,will do nothing to lessen the cost of gas. We can't drill for oil. We can't refine oil. Hell,we can't do anything to actually lesson the cost of oil except to try and put a windfall profits tax on big oil companies! Which is exactly what Jimma Carter did right before the gas crisis of the 1970's!
So the way I see the math working out on this whole thing is this. The awful "big oil" companies recieve on average a nine cent per gallon profit on gas sales,and the fed and state goverments recieve on average between fifty and sixty cents per gallon in taxes. So why the hell does Nancy Pelosi show up in front of an Exxon station in DC bitching about the cost of gas and then immediatly jump into a Lincoln Navigator(18mpg hwy/12mpg city) and drive away? And let's not even talk about Ted "The Swimmer" Kennedy putting the brakes on the wind turbines off the coast of Cape Cod for fears of his view being obstructed.
We should be drilling like motherfuckers. We should be refining our own damn oil. We should also be persuing alternative energy sources. This whole topic is being demagogued to death. We could lower the cost of oil if only we could get our own oil out of the ground! For some reason there are people in Washington who talk a good game,but have done everything in their power to prevent us from doing just that. So let's just divert the sheepels attention by blaming the big bad oil companies!
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Bush said no windfall taxes for oil companies, the economy is strong, with out foot on the pedal.
I'm paraphrasing, ironic choice of words he used!
God forbid, we do anything, he asked the oil companies to use the profits to explore renewable enrgy. He also asked Saddam to destroy all WMD's, and he didn't have any... I'm sure the oil companies will be all right on it!
I hear where you're coming from here pdog,but the fact is that a windfall profits tax would actually undermine any chance of reducing gas prices. "Big Oil" does not control the cost of crude oil,but should they be taxed on their profits even more than already are it would give them zero incentive to actually lower the cost. They only make nine cents per gallon as it is and they already get taxed on that. They still make an obscene profit,no doubt,but look at the taxes that the goverment imposses on all of us consummers and it's clear who the real profit pigs are here.
Both parties are playing politics with this issue and we are all getting screwed because of it. I mean the Republicans propossed to give back each taxpayer a one hundred dollor rebate check to off set the cost. WTF?! That's nothing! Plus it will be taxed as income! Then they tied drilling in Anwar to the bill knowing full well that Dems and some Repubs will never sign off an the bill!
The Dems are no less guilty of screwing us because they won't even consider lowering taxes on oil or allowing us to drill or refine.
A pox on both their houses as far as I'm concerned!
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They only make nine cents per gallon as it is and they already get taxed on that.
Riffy
Riffy,
I think you are getting gas station OWNERS confused with the oil companies that supply the gas stations. Independent gas station owners struggle to get by because their profit margin is so low due to franchise fees, taxes, and price controls set by the oil companies. Oil companies have seen their profits steadily climb with the worldwide price of a barrel of oil.
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Riffy,
I think you are getting gas station OWNERS confused with the oil companies that supply the gas stations. Independent gas station owners struggle to get by because their profit margin is so low due to franchise fees, taxes, and price controls set by the oil companies. Oil companies have seen their profits steadily climb with the worldwide price of a barrel of oil.
MM
"An industry-wide study in the late 1990s showed that oil industry profits amounted to an estimated 7.3
cents on each gallon sold.1 More recently, ConocoPhillips reported that during the third quarter of 2005 earnings from its U.S. refining and marketing operations amounted to 9 cents per gallon. This compares with a national average retail price of $2.60 per gallon during the third quarter, the period of highest gasoline prices in 2005"
Link--->http://www.conocophillips.com/newsr...oil_profits.htm
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I'm heading out to gas up now... wish me luck! |
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I have a Terrific Hangover ................... |
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We stillpay lss than 1/2 of what most European/Asian countries pay. It's only going to get higher and just grin and bear it. I use hi-test and it's $3.85 in Boca....it's the American fucking way!!!
Exactly, JB. I can't believe the whiners in America, my beloved homeland. Of course, the same people that have half their income seized in TAXES and have no problme with that, are outrage that companies that sell a refined commodity have the audacity to make a profit doing so. |
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pdog wrote:
pdog writes with much contempt:
Complain all you want, I spend more and pay a higher per gallon price than any of you in the USA, and you don't hear me complaining about the price.
My complaint is that no real work has been done to create new industries to remove us from oil.
Canadas sand oil reserve is said to be the largest reserve in the world. At the rate the US currently consumes, it would last 40 years, if it was our only source of oil..
Bio- diesel could decrease green house gasses immensely. What is wrong with us? There's money to be made and good can be done at the same time.
We're just retarded! Stoopid! Idiots!
Ethanol is an option, however it is potentially very toxic, so I'm sure that's what we'll cose!
Fucknutz!!! We're stoopid idiot consumers.
Let's keep giving our money to Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Terrorist Islam, and the home of Jewish hatred!
Fuckhead dipshits!!!
The answers and solutions are there, and people are talking about why is gas so high in cost...
Choking on idiocy!!!
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fighting the tree huggers hasn't helped either over the years... reason #1 for no new refineries in this country for how many years... not in my backyard. |
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'Iran crisis could force oil prices over $100'
By Laurie Osborne, Editor
Published 1st May 2006, (a Monday) at 10:00AM
As political tensions over over Iran's nuclear programme continue, analysts have warned that crude oil could breach $100 a barrel.
A single political shock could be enough to send oil markets into panic, according to Adam Sieminski, senior energy economist at Deutsche Bank in New York.
"If we have one more big problem we are going to have triple-digit oil prices," he was quoted as saying.
Potential catalysts for a major rise in oil prices include a confrontation with Iran, a worsening of the situation in Iraq or further hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico, said Sieminski.
A supply disruption of 2 million barrels a day "can only be rebalanced through an extraordinary rise in prices," he argues in a report.
However, any breaching of the $100 would be short-lived, and prices would fall to between $30 and $60 as increased investment brings new production and refining capacity, he said.
Mary Novak, managing director of energy services at consultants Global Insight, said that if Iran shut off just a 10th of its 3 million barrels a day of exports, the impact would be dramatic.
"With the situation we have, 300,000 barrels a day would drive prices up significantly,' she said.
With oil prices currently around $72 a barrel, a rise to $100 could mean drivers facing prices of 110p a litre on UK forecourts, according the the Petrol Retailers Association.
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[quote]Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
'Iran crisis could force oil prices over $100'
By Laurie Osborne, Editor
Published 1st May 2006, (a Monday) at 10:00AM
As political tensions over over Iran's nuclear programme continue, analysts have warned that crude oil could breach $100 a barrel.
A single political shock could be enough to send oil markets into panic, according to Adam Sieminski, senior energy economist at Deutsche Bank in New York.
"If we have one more big problem we are going to have triple-digit oil prices," he was quoted as saying."
What is Israel WAITING for ?!?!
We MUST stike NOW !!!!!!!
Joey Cohen
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chevysales wrote:
fighting the tree huggers hasn't helped either over the years... reason #1 for no new refineries in this country for how many years... not in my backyard.
Damn those commie tree huggers for not wanting a refinery in their backyard!!!
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/05/01/MNG06IIL6R5.DT
Shelter-in-place lifted in Rodeo and Crockett
Chronicle Staff Report
Monday, May 1, 2006
(05-01) 11:18 PDT RODEO -- An hour-long shelter-in-place order in Rodeo and Crockett, prompted by the release of hazardous materials at the ConocoPhillips refinery, was lifted shortly after 11 a.m. today, authorities said.
No dangerous levels of pollution have been reported from the release, which was stopped after 15 minutes, said Paul Andrews, a hazardous materials specialist for Contra Costa County.
County workers in the area reported sulfur-based foul odors resembling rotten eggs. The smell appeared to be dissipating by 11 a.m., said Maria Duazo of the county health services department.
In conformance with safety procedures, the power outage triggered an automatic release of unburnt hydrocarbons and sulfur compounds into the exhaust flare, Andrews said. The release resulted in a cloud of black sooty smoke.
The stay-in-place order was issued after 10 a.m. "as a precaution," said Tracy Hein of the county Office of Emergency Services. Residents and others in the area were advised to stay inside, shut off air conditioners and keep their windows closed.
The order was lifted about 11:10 a.m.
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