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22nd April 2006 09:13 PM
Ten Thousand Motels Mick Jagger, a mysterious brunette and their late-night conversations

23.04.06
Nzherald.co.nz

Mick Jagger wines, dines and opens up to a young lovely in his hotel room. The thing is, she was working undercover for the Herald on Sunday. Rachel Clucina reports on an enchanting four nights with a rock star.

Mick Jagger with the Herald on Sunday's Rachel Glucina



So Mick Jagger is lying on the couch beside me in his enormous Auckland hotel suite. He's wearing socks - bright yellow, scare-the-horses socks.

"Mork and Mindy yellow," I suggest. He laughs his deep, horsey, sexy laugh. The night before they'd been black with hot pink and green stripes.

"I love loud socks," he'd said then. At that moment, I loved them, too.

I'm stretched out on the couch next to the most famous ladies' man in music, discussing art and Arsenal, the Kiwi cricketers in South Africa, girlfriends and marriage contracts, drugs and Chinese politics. It's surreal, but also bizarrely normal.

"I've got something special for you, Rach," he says, excitedly, dashing off to bring a bottle of Marlborough chardonnay he'd organised for our last night in this suite. Yes, I spent four fabulous nights with the legendary Mick Jagger - but it's not what you think. Sure there was copious amounts of flirting, numerous bottles of French champagne and lots of late-night laughs - but that's as rock'n'roll as it got. Well ... almost.

Was it easy be-friending a Rolling Stone? Not exactly. There was the burly bodyguard in a bulletproof vest I met the night before the band's Auckland gig last Sunday who said he was on the look-out for "prowlers".

"You know," he explained, "paparazzi, journalists and young women who want to meet Mick and get their picture in the paper." Oh God, I panic. I'm all three of those.

We're sitting in the lobby bar of the Langham Hotel, where Mick, Keith, Charlie and Ronnie had arrived two hours earlier. I'll be honest - I was on an official undercover stakeout for the Herald on Sunday. Perhaps I might catch Mick flirting with a pretty girl. Maybe I'd see someone drink too much. Take drugs. It's gossip, not rocket science. There are 385 people in the Rolling Stones entourage and crew - something had to happen.

Just after midnight Mr Jagger makes a low-key entrance into the bar - the others, I later learn, prefer to party privately in their rooms. "They've got wives and family," it's explained.

My girlfriend and I stay to drink Bollinger Reserve with the entourage while Mick is two seats away and, though I never get to speak to him, it's all terribly exciting.

Next day, the bodyguard - Paris Hilton's former protection - calls. Nice to have met me, he says, and would I like a couple of VIP tickets to the concert? We could catch up afterwards. At Western Springs, I get a text wondering if I'm happy with the seats. Happy? I was a personally-invited guest, sitting a handful of rows from the front and I'm partying with the Rolling Stones later. Happy was an understatement.

Back at the hotel bar, post-concert, Jagger's bodyguard whisks me aside and whispers that Jagger would like to come down - would I mind sitting and talking with him? "He likes pretty girls," he winks. Within minutes, guests were turfed off a couch, chairs had been drawn up and I was being beckoned to sit and await His arrival. Beside me is my undercover sidekick, Olivia Hemus, former model, social photographer, a snappy little camera sitting pretty in her bag. We wait.

The wiry man in the disheveled shirt and jersey around his shoulders looks little like the rebellious, arrogant, peacock showman I'd seen earlier on stage. He meanders around the bar then lounges on the couch next to me. And so the fun begins.

Mick Jagger is a talker and the banter never stops. Was the Easter bunny good to him? It was better to his kids, as he'd sent luxurious chocolate eggs all over the world.

"I have seven bloody kids," he laughs. "I could have my own basketball or volleyball team." He brags about his lavish holiday home in the Loire Valley, where he goes to "relax and unwind, though all my friends like to holiday on the Dalmatian coast at the moment". Vacation name-dropping. Bless. I'm impressed.

There's no doubt Jagger loves the company of women - young women particularly. He is an incessant flirt, but charming with it. And there is that Peter Pan complex. He's smitten with our youthful enthusiasm and likes a bit of attitude. Though there is a universe of difference between our lives, he'll compare his various exploits with mine. On my New York travel tales: "Oh yeah, the Chelsea Hotel. I used to visit Dylan when he stayed there but that was before he made his money."

Mick is nothing if not cool but there's still an appealing vulnerability about him. He's theatrical and tactile; he recoils into his thin frame, crossing his outstretched arms across his chest.

He commissions Alexander McQueen and Dior menswear designer Hedi Slimane - master of the thin androgynous look - to make his stage costumes. "I'm getting new ones from Hedi when I get back to Europe," he says. "But I always have to stipulate to him not too thin, I have to be able to move on stage."

He calls the waiter for more champagne. But not for him, he's on water. "Three's my limit and I've guzzled them back already tonight."

And that is just one of the surprises about the debonair but disciplined Mick Jagger.

Over the next few nights, I learn that the man infamous for sex, drugs and Marianne Faithfull never touches cocaine because he can't keep up that lifestyle anymore. He bought champagne for us but won't touch the stuff himself. He hates the bubbles.

His thirst, these days, is for good conversation, a good workout and his own creative work. But that's not to say he doesn't like a laugh. We're sitting side by side on the couch and our thighs are touching.

"Oh my God," I shriek. My thighs are twice the size of his.

He roars with laughter.

He hates going out with people who don't eat. Karl Lagerfeld, he says, never eats.

Despite that tiny frame, I can attest that Mick Jagger eats. Though he spent the next three days in Wellington ("are you coming?" he'd asked - like I was a bonafide groupie. But no, I had to work) his bodyguard rang on Wednesday night to say Jagger would like to go to dinner. We went to Cibo (he makes the booking under the name "James") with Olivia and Victoria, the Welsh woman who runs his LA film production company. The rock star ate quail salad and duck confit - and most of my chocolate dessert.

He drank merlot, sparingly, and water. We talked about, well, tabloid journalism. Jagger's making a film about it and he reckons Rupert Murdoch is worse than George Bush. No accountability, apparently.

Mick knows that I own a marketing company, but he has no idea of my other job - for the Herald on Sunday. Olivia has told him she's studied photography. And, thankfully, he doesn't hate all journalists. Mick prepared for last month's historic tour to China by ringing his old mates to ask what he should know about Chinese censorship.

"I rang Bill Clinton for some advice on what to say to the media," he says. And then he was miffed none of the Western journalists were interested - they just wanted to know what songs he'd had to cut. "I don't care [that the Stones had to cut four songs] - we've got 400 to pick from!"

Mick has flown back to Auckland to film a cameo role in an ABC comedy pilot - the rest of the band, he says, has scattered. "Ronnie's gone to Fiji - he keeps calling himself an Islander," he laughs. He cannot understand why the Americans in the entourage flew straight back to the US. Mick wants to travel - he once ate raw puffin meat in Iceland and is off to Cambodia and Laos with his backpack and Lonely Planet guide for the next two weeks. Daughter Elizabeth, he confides, is holidaying in New Zealand with friends. One of Mick's holiday homes is in Mustique and a rave about the West Indian diet becomes a conversation about Type-2 diabetes and Maori.

Olivia, the undercover photographer, requests a snap. Jagger refuses. He confesses he's been burned recently by a woman he met in a hotel lobby. She wanted a picture with him. He obliged, and found himself front-page news and in a supposed relationship. Olivia begs, saying my mother would love to see it on her birthday next week. Jagger relents, a bit. "Oh sweetheart, let me write your mum a note instead, eh?"

Jagger's paranoia about girls is well founded. There has been the long, long list of lovers and wives and one-night stands but Jagger is still a romantic. He talks about the "beautiful little church in France" where he married first wife Bianca but says, without irony, that people don't always realise the significance of a marriage contract.

"There are two legal contracts - one to your partner and one to the state," he says. Business contracts are more his thing, these days.

On Thursday my phone rings at 11pm. "Hi Rach, it's Mick," he says. (Ohmigod, Mick Jagger just phoned me.) We had planned to go dancing but Mick's tired after filming. Would I like to come over to the suite? "I'm under Mr Cameron."

Tonight he is at his most relaxed. There are those yellow socks (topped by extremely tight grey trousers) and he's jovial, proud he chose wine he thought I'd like and keen to know if I can pick its region. His bags are packed for Friday's flight out, Sade's latest song is on his iPod and he's joking about the differences between his many children.

When Georgia was 9, he tells us, she insisted on going to his local cinema to see the Spice Girls' movie. Jagger didn't want to go but his daughter won. And when she wouldn't carry her soft toy, Spot, he did. "She goes 'oh Dad, I can't be seen walking in with Spot', so I have to walk into the movie carrying a stuffed dog."

He obviously loves his kids, but he doesn't mind poking a bit of fun. Will they reciprocate? "Oh yeah," he says. But his second wife Jerry Hall cops more. The kids aren't always enamoured with what Hall wears, telling her she 'can't go out dressed like that'. Jagger says he tells his former wife she should wear what she wants.

Hall this week told the Daily Mail in Britain that women should stay away from rock stars.

Me, I'm glad I didn't. Sure, Mick didn't know about my other job, writing for this paper. If he had, chances are my four nights would have been barely four minutes. But the subterfuge was necessary to meet the real man, to find out what a famous rock star is really like.

Jagger was simply the most fascinating man I've ever met. He's sexy, intelligent, learned, enormously funny and passionate. He also never laid a sensual hand on me; always the perfect gentleman, even thanking me for the fabulous time together.

It's 2am now and we're tired. Mick hugs and kisses me goodbye and invites me to visit him in Europe this summer. "Ooh, I'd love to," I confess. London and the Loire Valley, I dream. And wouldn't that be the most perfect follow-up story? ..

[Edited by Ten Thousand Motels]
22nd April 2006 09:58 PM
Daethgod top read
but i reckon Mick would think she was a sly beatch

22nd April 2006 10:59 PM
Mel Belli Makes me want to shower...
23rd April 2006 10:03 AM
Lucy_Bandersnatch "the subterfuge was necessary to meet the real man"

Ever notice how people rationalize in order to justify lying? This girl sounds young but she also sounds ethically corrupt.

Mick however sounds like a saint. Now is that for REAL? lol

23rd April 2006 01:57 PM
gotdablouse er...so Mick just wanted to talk with an average looking girl that got spotted drinking champagne two seats away at the bar ? Looks like we're missing some info here !
23rd April 2006 03:44 PM
LadyJane
quote:
gotdablouse wrote:
er...so Mick just wanted to talk with an average looking girl that got spotted drinking champagne two seats away at the bar ? Looks like we're missing some info here !



Glad someone else said it first.

There is something not quite right about this story.

Luxy....you agree????

AND MY CLAWS ARE RETRACTED...well....ALMOST.

LJ.
23rd April 2006 05:20 PM
Dead_Flowers Intresting. I'm not sure what to make of it. Mick hangs around young girls just for conversation.
23rd April 2006 08:03 PM
glencar Talk about a breach of trust. This "reporter" is a low rate skank!
24th April 2006 12:48 AM
Spru Interesting article. Gives a little insight into Mick's world, which is rare. I think the part about his socks is funny.
24th April 2006 08:20 AM
SweetVirginia
quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:

It's 2am now and we're tired. Mick hugs and kisses me goodbye and invites me to visit him in Europe this summer. "Ooh, I'd love to," I confess. London and the Loire Valley, I dream. And wouldn't that be the most perfect follow-up story? ..




Don't wait for your phone to ring after
writing that article, Rach.

What a betrayal of his kindness. (If any of it
is true.)

SV

24th April 2006 08:35 AM
Factory Girl A very good read. Thank you for posting it.
24th April 2006 08:49 AM
UGot2Rollme good read (assuming it's all true...). Thanks
24th April 2006 10:28 AM
Saint Sway how can mick be anything BUT constantly paranoid with this kind of stuff going on? He befriended this girl, showed her a wonderful time, was open, gracious and generous and all the while she is a skank reporter trying to dig up dirt on him. Simply horrible. Some people have no shame.
24th April 2006 10:42 AM
jb Would you rather have him hanging around Uri Geller?(see above). I'll tak the pseudo-reporter anyday. Seems Mick is lonely and has no real friends.... He has no real r/s with his bandmates, and L'Wren must not fulfill his desire for knowledge. The fact he did the sitcom is distresing as well. The only positive thingis his need to keep moving bodes well for future shows.
24th April 2006 10:46 AM
GotToRollMe Hey Rach, here's a buck...rent some ethics.
24th April 2006 10:48 AM
jb Think about how stupid we would feel hanging around Mick..even the most sophisticated of us, pale in comparison to this mans knowledge............it would be truly awkward, and thus, this is why Mick shelters himself with those he beleives are socities elitists...and off course, young , hot , girls.
24th April 2006 01:42 PM
gimmekeef Ya dont think Mick could smell this rat a mile away?...Like its never been tried before!
24th April 2006 01:51 PM
SweetVirginia
quote:
gimmekeef wrote:
Ya dont think Mick could smell this rat a mile away?...Like its never been tried before!



Seems like he did not smell this rat,
or he probably wouldn't have given her
all that personal info about where his
kids are at the moment and where Ronnie
went on vacation, etc.

24th April 2006 01:54 PM
Saint Sway shes not pretty.
24th April 2006 02:03 PM
Mel Belli
quote:
Saint Sway wrote:
shes not pretty.



I agree. That's the most distressing thing about the whole episode...
24th April 2006 02:06 PM
luxury1 me thinks Mick and Co. are up to some spin/damage control...
24th April 2006 02:11 PM
jb
quote:
luxury1 wrote:
me thinks Mick and Co. are up to some spin/damage control...


Please elaborate................<>
24th April 2006 02:18 PM
Joey " me thinks Mick and Co. are up to some spin/damage control... "

< ---- Please elaborate................ !!!!
24th April 2006 02:22 PM
jb
quote:
Joey wrote:
" me thinks Mick and Co. are up to some spin/damage control... "

< ---- Please elaborate................ !!!!




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24th April 2006 07:13 PM
texile
quote:
jb wrote:
Would you rather have him hanging around Uri Geller?(see above). I'll tak the pseudo-reporter anyday. Seems Mick is lonely and has no real friends.... He has no real r/s with his bandmates, and L'Wren must not fulfill his desire for knowledge. The fact he did the sitcom is distresing as well. The only positive thingis his need to keep moving bodes well for future shows.



lonely at the top indeed...
but he used to be smarter than this.
24th April 2006 08:20 PM
Spru
quote:
jb wrote:
Would you rather have him hanging around Uri Geller?(see above). I'll tak the pseudo-reporter anyday. Seems Mick is lonely and has no real friends.... He has no real r/s with his bandmates, and L'Wren must not fulfill his desire for knowledge. The fact he did the sitcom is distresing as well. The only positive thingis his need to keep moving bodes well for future shows.



Does he really not have any relationships with his bandmates? They seem cool onstage and like they're having fun, I just watched Four Flicks the other day and at the Paris Theatre show and the Twickenham show they all seem to be having a grand time. Also, I know he and Keith fight and all that, but they get along on stage, and they did spend a lot of time together putting together ABB. Things can't possibly be this bleak inside the group, can it?

24th April 2006 08:48 PM
Lucy_Bandersnatch I have another question about this. What about the rag this woman works for? It can't be a reputable paper or they would have immediately seen through the dishonesty and lack of professionalism. "Real" journalists identify themselves and "real" newspapers don't leave themselves open to libel (not that anything libelous was said).

Sounds like "Rach" torpedoed her professional career with her "ends justifies the means" attitude.
26th April 2006 10:32 AM
Make It Funky Great story, but, I dont understand HOW this young lovely got through all of the security? Who did she pretend to say she was (if not a journalist or groupie)... Does Mick normally invite people into his life that own Marketing Companies? seems a bit dodgy to me. Dont you think he would have had her checked out, with local police, agents or private investigators?

That "lonely at the top" perspective seems rather accurate to be honest... he always seems so gaurded, but, when it relaxes (becomes "jovial"), he spills the beans, Ronnie in Fiji? past marriages, kids, inviting her to Europe?? He almmost seems desperate! Where is L'wren??

Yea, I think Mick seems to be effevescent and radiant and intelligent, but, he is fucked up. He's NOT normal. He's got serious "issues" and delirous, out of touch with reality and seems to have lost grip on life.
26th April 2006 10:34 AM
Reptile My guess is this story is bullshit.
26th April 2006 10:41 AM
Saint Sway
quote:
Make It Funky wrote:
Great story, but, I dont understand HOW this young lovely got through all of the security?



The Stones were obviously tipped off about this. They sniffed her out and then played her. Perfectly.

instead of some undercover journalist sneaking behind the scenes and digging up dirt on Mick - she wound up instead getting played and having Mick spin the story into him looking like the perfect gent.

the biggest clue that the Stones had been tipped off about the story was the fact that she is not pretty. Not anywhere near Mick's standards. So theres no way he would invite a girl of average (at best) looks up to his room. Thats the proof that Mick new about this and decided to play her. So he invites her up to his room and goes on and on about how cultured he is and makes a really gentelmanly nice impression and then sends her on her way back to write to world how classy he is.

Mick is a genius. This was played perfectly. Well done.

You cant fuck with the Stones juggernaut. Bush got played. This silly reporter was just peanuts to them. You can tell Mick had fun with it. He totally pulled the wool over her eyes. Hilarious!


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