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One of the things that I've always admired about Neil...as great as he himself is, he has always treated Bob, the Stones, and the Beatles as the Holy Trinity of Rock n Roll.
Neil's version of "Blowin' In The Wind" on the Weld video is spine tingling stuff.... |
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I love Neil Young. He's great. He loves the Stones too, so he must be an okay guy! |
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quote: FPM C10 wrote:
More barn!
I've never seen an actual Neil Young concert (hope to change that before one of us dies) but I have seen him play twice - in 1974 with those hippie loads Crosby Stills and Nash (he was the only memorable thing about the show - "Only Love Can Break Your Heart" was a highlight) and at the Dylan tribute in '92. Neil stomped out right after everyone had been seriously bummed out by Sinead O'Connor getting her bald head booed offstage, and made everyone IMMEDIATELY forget the recent unpleasantness. (Wish he'd make an appearance in the I Hate Paris Hilton thread) Everyone laughed when he said "Thanks for having BobFest, Bob!" in that "I just smoked two joints" voice of his, and then he broke out the most amazing version of "Queen Jane Approximately". Of course, when he sang "I'm going back to New York City", the place went nuts.
Of course, the version of "All Along the Watchtower" that followed was spectacular, but I think "Queen Jane" took the cake. One of the definite highlights in an evening comprised entirely of highlights.
Uh, I believe the line "I'm going back to New York City" is in the Dylan song "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues." Ah well, Neil is great anyway. Every one of his albums is good to great in my book except Everybody's Rockin, Old Ways, Landing on Water, Life, Broken Arrow, Silver & Gold and (gasp, yes I believe this) Prairie Wind. In Shakey, Neil is described as looking to create a sound that combines the pop sensibilities of the Beatles and the rock power of the Stones. Crazy Horse is like the Stones at half the tempo and on half the drugs! Let's look at my rankings:
A+: Tonight's the Night, Rust Never Sleeps
A: Everybody Knows This is Nowhere, After the Gold Rush, Time Fades Away, On the Beach, Zuma, Decade (best triple-LP ever!), Comes a Time, Freedom, Buffalo Springfield Again
A-: Harvest, Ragged Glory, Lucky Thirteen (good compilation of his worthwhile 80s tracks plus a few good rarities), Sleeps with Angels, Buffalo Springfield
B+: Neil Young, American Stars n' Bars, Hawks & Doves, Weld (good double-CD live) Harvest Moon, Mirrorball (w/Pearl Jam), Are You Passionate?, Greendale, Buffalo Springfield-Last Time Around
B: Re-ac-tor, Trans, This Note's for You, Broken Arrow
B-: Life, Silver & Gold, Prairie Wind
C+: Everybody's Rockin' (terrible production and several lame 50s impersonations), Landing on Water
C: Old Ways (lousy country where the only good songs are the duet with Willie and "Once an Angel")
C-: Journey Through the Past (I hear it sucks but it's out of print so who can tell? A bad soundtrack to one of Neil's first indie films, that was also bad)
D: Arc (uh, if you like 35 minutes of metal machine music- an edited feedback montage from concerts on the Weld tour aka "Smell the Horse" this is your thing, but I don't enjoy this much. Lennon wishes he made an avant-garde piece of shit like this) |
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quote: StonesChick wrote:
I love Neil Young. He's great. He loves the Stones too, so he must be an okay guy!
Neil was at the Stones' Wiltern show in November of 2002. |
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>C-: Journey Through the Past (I hear it sucks but it's out of print so who can tell? A bad soundtrack to one of Neil's first indie films, that was also bad)<
You rated an album that you've never heard? You hear it sucks? From who? Did you ever see the film, or are you judging it without seeing it as well?
So if you are rating this album without ever having heard it(I have a copy of JTTP on cdr from vinyl, it's not great, but it's not as bad as you have claimed either. The movie is very very strange, and I like it.)...how do we know that you have listened to ANY of those albums?
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I got into Neil Young pretty late. Around 1990. I knew of him, but didnt pay much attention. A mate who worked in the mail room with me (He's now a cop, he helps me with computers and i still see him often) liked Neil Young and saw his 88-89 tour of Oz (touring with the Stray Dogs i think).
I had heard Rocking in the free world and loved it. Then, watching all night music vids, i saw the clip to Fucking Up. Well, that was it! i was hooked.
My mate taped Freedom for me. I liked some it. Then i bought the 10 men working lp. And i adored it. But when Ragged Glory came out, i was hooked. I bought Decade, Live Rust, American stars and bars. I was fanatical for a time!
The thing i love about him is his simplicity of his playing. For a crap axe man like me, its fairly simple and enourmous fun to play his songs. Its simple and it works.
I consider some of his songs amongst the most superb in rock. To me, Ohio, Cinnamon Girl, Down by the river, Cowgirl in the sand and so many others as simply amazing tracks. I adores his CSNY years too.
To me, Like a Hurricane in my top non-Stones songs. It was about his separation from his wife, and you feel the wrench, the pain, the torture, in his solos. Mistakes, fluffed bits, sloppy - Its, wow, life changing.
Also, Love and only love, Love to burn, change your mind and coming home as some of the best of his latter stuff.
And, best of all, his next record is going to be with the HORSE!
I dont like accoustic, folksy stuff, but i can listen to his.
Oh, and i forgot, but "Lotta Love" - man i love that song. Oh, and Comes a time! |
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Borrowed Tune
I'm climbin' this ladder,
My head in the clouds
I hope that it matters,
I'm havin' my doubts.
I'm watchin' the skaters
Fly by on the lake.
Ice frozen six feet deep,
How long does it take?
I look out on peaceful lands
With no war nearby,
An ocean of shakin' hands
That grab at the sky.
I'm singin' this borrowed tune
I took from the Rolling Stones,
Alone in this empty room
Too wasted to write my own.
I'm climbin' this ladder,
My heads in the clouds
I hope that it matters.
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Crazy Horse (band)
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Crazy Horse
Country USA
Years active 1969–present
Genre(s) Rock, Hard Rock
Label(s) Reprise
Members Billy Talbot
Ralph Molina
Frank "Poncho" Sampedro
Past members Danny Whitten
Jack Nitzsche
Nils Lofgren
George Whitsell
Greg LeRoy
John Blanton
Rick Curtis
Michael Curtis
Sonny Mone
Matt Piucci
Crazy Horse is the name of a band that often plays with Neil Young. They have been co-credited with him as Neil Young and Crazy Horse on a number of albums from Everyone Knows This is Nowhere in 1969 to Greendale in 2003. In addition, the band has appeared on select tracks on other Neil Young solo albums, and they have also recorded several albums on its own.
Line-up
Current
Billy Talbot – bass guitar, vocals
Ralph Molina – drums, vocals
Frank "Poncho" Sampedro – guitar, keyboards, vocals (1975–present)
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History
The band began as a doo wop group named Danny & the Memories with Danny being Danny Whitten and future Crazy Horse members Billy Talbot and Ralph Molina being members. The band evolved into the Rockets in 1966 with Whitten becoming a guitarist, Talbot a bass player and Molina a drummer as well as adding Bobby Notkoff on violin and Leon Whitsell and George Whitsell who played on the Rockets' only album, a self-titled set in 1968.
Whitten met up with Neil Young who had left Buffalo Springfield and played gigs at the Whisky A Go-Go club in Los Angeles. Young asked Whitten, Talbot and Molina to play with him on several songs on Everybody Knows This is Nowhere his second solo record including "Cinnamon Girl" and toured with Young afterwards. The trio broke up the Rockets and formed Crazy Horse.
Neil Young used Crazy Horse on his third solo album After the Goldrush. At the same time, Neil Young also accepted an invitation to join Crosby, Stills & Nash. In the interregnum, Crazy Horse signed its own recording contract releasing a self-titled album in 1971 and adding producer/keyboardist Jack Nitzsche and guitarist Nils Lofgren for the record.
Danny Whitten developed a serious drug habit and was fired from Crazy Horse. He died on November 18, 1972 of an overdose. According to many reports, Whitten died after failing an audition to join Young's touring band for his Harvest album. After Whitten's death, Crazy Horse released two additional ablums (Loose and At Crooked Lake) with various additional members, but neither album sold well.
In early 1973, Young, Talbot, Nitzsche, Molina, Lofgren, and long-time Young sideman Ben Keith began touring and playing new songs. Because of its dark themes and uncommerical sound, the album of the tour Tonight's the Night was not released until 1975. At that time, Crazy Horse also announced Frank "Poncho" Sampredo as their new guitarist. The band played on Zuma as well as a few tracks on Young's Comes a Time and American Stars n' Bars sets.
In 1978, the band released its fourth album Crazy Moon before rejoining Young for the classic album Rust Never Sleeps. During the eighties, the band played as a unit on Hawks and Doves, Re·ac·tor and Life.
After the tour for Life, Young announced that he wouldn't work with Crazy Horse again. Sampredo decided to remain with Young, but Molina and Talbot recruited Matt Piucci on guitar/vocals and Sonny Mone guitar for the spitefully-titled album Left for Dead.
Young and Crazy Horse made up and reunited in 1990 for the acclaimed album Ragged Glory and a subsequent live album Weld in 1991. There were further appearances on Neil Young albums Sleeps with Angels, Broken Arrow, Year of the Horse and Greendale. Sampredo was not on the Greendale CD, but he did appear with the band on the subsequent tour playing keyboards for the Greendale material and guitar for the encore.
In the Neil Young biography Shakey, it was mentioned that Crazy Horse was working on a new album in 1995 and 1996. However, that album was never finished because Neil Young began work on Broken Arrow.
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Discography
The Rockets
The Rockets (1968)
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Crazy Horse
Crazy Horse (1971)
Loose (1971)
At Crooked Lake (1973)
Crazy Moon (1978)
Left for Dead (1989)
Scratchy: The Complete Reprise Recordings (2005)
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Neil Young and Crazy Horse
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (1969)
Zuma (1975)
Rust Never Sleeps (1978)
Live Rust (live, 1979)
Hawks & Doves (1980)
Re·ac·tor (1981)
Life (1987)
Ragged Glory (1990)
Weld (album) (live, 1991)
Sleeps With Angels (1994)
Broken Arrow (album) (1996)
Year of the Horse (live, 1997)
Greendale (2003)
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Other collaborations
Head like a Rock (with Ian McNabb, 1995)
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Billy Talbot solo
Alive In The Spirit World (2004)
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External links
All Music Guide Crazy Horse Page
VH1 Crazy Horse artist page
Thrasher's Wheat page for Crazy Horse & Neil Young
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Horse_%28band%29"
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Well, I'm not much of a Neil Young fan, but this line really got me:
The same thing that makes you live
Can kill you in the end
Nice, isn't it?
I must be getting old. |
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Prodigal Son |
quote: Sir Stonesalot wrote:
>C-: Journey Through the Past (I hear it sucks but it's out of print so who can tell? A bad soundtrack to one of Neil's first indie films, that was also bad)<
You rated an album that you've never heard? You hear it sucks? From who? Did you ever see the film, or are you judging it without seeing it as well?
So if you are rating this album without ever having heard it(I have a copy of JTTP on cdr from vinyl, it's not great, but it's not as bad as you have claimed either. The movie is very very strange, and I like it.)...how do we know that you have listened to ANY of those albums?
Ok, calm down now. I've heard em all except JTTP. I've heard and/or burned songs from, but don't own, Time Fades Away (which ain't available on CD but I've heard sound clips from it and agree with the generally positive reviews), Trans (also not on CD right now but I've heard clips like from TFA and I like it better than most Neil fans), Old Ways, Landing on Water, Life, Arc, and Broken Arrow. There, satisfied? I also know from clips that Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young's Deja Vu is ok so I give it a B but American Dream sucks and I give that one a C. The Stills-Young Band Long May You Run deserves a B as it is the usual glossy California pop-rock from Stills with a few good tunes (the title track, "Fontainbleau" and "Black Coral"). Neil's most high profile commercial success came with those guys but I find it all to be precious hippie boredom, personally.
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Lazy Bones |
quote: corgi37 wrote:
A mate who worked in the mail room with me (He's now a cop, he helps me with computers and i still see him often) liked Neil Young and saw his 88-89 tour of Oz (touring with the Stray Dogs i think).
Yep. The "Lost Dogs" were Neil, Frank Sampedro, Ben Keith, Rick Rosas and Chad Cromwell.
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Lazy Bones |
quote: Prodigal Son wrote:
Trans (also not on CD right now but I've heard clips like from TFA and I like it better than most Neil fans
Trans was - perhaps still is (?) - available as Japanese and German imports. I've ordered both about, oh, 8-10 years ago. I ordered one for myelf, then a couple months later, one for my dad. One was Japanese, one German.
I love TRANS. |
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quote: FPM C10 wrote:
Neil stomped out right after everyone had been seriously bummed out by Sinead O'Connor getting her bald head booed offstage, and made everyone IMMEDIATELY forget the recent unpleasantness.
No one can touch Neil Young.
As for that unpleasantness at Bobfest, I think one of the great "if onlys" in rock history is "If only Sinead had known the lyrics to 'Positively 4th Street,' she could have set those pope-loving halfwits on their asses." |
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Neil Young is the best. He's timeless. And he would never attempt to shove a crappy dance song like RFD down his fans throats. |
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quote: Saint Sway wrote:
Neil Young is the best. He's timeless. And he would never attempt to shove a crappy dance song like RFD down his fans throats.
Neil Young would never be able to write adance song period-- he'd never be able to write something like Miss You, or Slave, or Dance, or RFD, or even Hot Stuff. The fact that the Stones are the only RnR band that can should be respected, instead they get trashed for it as always...
Oh yeah, and Neil Young is good.
His last album most certainly isn't, though. But I suppose he's acting his age on it. |
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TampabayStone |
quote: Brainbell Jangler wrote:
pope-loving halfwits on their asses."
You runied your post with this crap! |
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Break The Spell |
All this Young talk made me revisit some of his albums over the weekend. My favorites included his live sets like Weld, Live Rust and 4 Way Street with CSN & Y. |
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Neil Young gets personal with CD, new concert film
By Barry Koltnow
The Orange County Register
Posted April 9 2006
Neil Young is freaked out, man.
The iconic singer is so freaked out that he has to put on sunglasses to shield his eyes for fear of revealing too much.
"You're scaring the hell out of me with these questions," he says.
The scary question in question was: "Do you like what you see in the mirror each morning?"
The motivation behind the question was simply to ask the singer to evaluate his career, and whether he was satisfied with the musical path he chose. Nothing deeper than that.
But maybe because he's 60, maybe because he survived a potentially fatal brain aneurysm last year, maybe because of his father's death, maybe because he recently released an incredibly personal and introspective album called Prairie Wind, and just maybe because of an emotionally revealing Jonathan Demme-directed performance film called Heart of Gold, the question threw him for a loop and opened up a stream of reflective thought.
"I'm not particularly happy with what I see in the mirror," he said. "When I wake up, I feel like I'm 24 years old, and I've got a lot of things to do. I've got to get a cool car and go for a ride. All those kinds of things. Then I look in the mirror and I say, `Oh, now I remember. I'm married, I have a family, we have this school that my wife started, there are battles still to be fought and I don't know if I'm making a big enough difference.' That's what I see in the mirror."
As for his body of work, Young dismisses it with a wave of his hand and a flippant remark: "Some of it I'm more proud of than others."
Would you expect any less complexity? After all, this is Neil Young, whose music over the past four decades has pretty much defined a generation and a genre. He is the rock singer who mixes musical styles (his latest CD is pure country) and is not afraid to speak his mind -- on politics or any other subject.
This is the man who wrote the Kent State ode Ohio, the attack on corporate sponsorship This Note's for You and the condemnation of racism in Southern Man.
"A long time ago, maybe in my early 20s, I decided that I was going to try to sing about things that really mattered to me. Sure, sometimes I'm totally self-engrossed in my own trip, but at other times, I am concerned about what's going on in the world. There are just so many injustices, so many inaccuracies and so many unbalances. I feel a need to illuminate them."
Although he performed with a string of bands in his native Canada (does the Squires ring a bell?), it wasn't until he moved to California and hooked up with Stephen Stills and Buffalo Springfield that Young started to hint at what was to come.
When the band broke up in 1969, Young began his solo career, releasing two albums (Neil Young and Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere) before joining Stills, David Crosby and Graham Nash in creating a new band. Apparently stuck for a name, they called themselves Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young.
Although he continued to work occasionally with Crosby, Stills and Nash, Young's solo career shifted into a higher gear. With the 1972 release of Harvest, Young ascended to rock-god status, and while sales of subsequent albums have ebbed and flowed, Young's integrity and respect for him in the music world have remained intact. Whether he was singing rock 'n' roll, country or folk, people paid attention. In 1995, he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
He also has been closely associated with a number of benefit shows, including Live Aid and Farm Aid, as well as the annual benefits for the Bridge School in Northern California near the ranch he shares with his wife, Pegi.
Although a Rock and Roll Hall of Famer, Young said his career is cyclical, and that he already was headed back in a country direction when he was engulfed in a medical crisis. He started writing at a furious pace. An operation was need to correct the problem, but Young said he wasn't sure he would survive the procedure so he rushed his new country songs into a studio.
"Sure, there was a sense of mortality in the songwriting process, but even without the health scare, I think the same things were inside me," Young said. "It's possible that [the aneurysm] might have coaxed them out a little faster.
"All I know is that I was living in the moment. I was going day to day."
Meanwhile, filmmaker Jonathan Demme (Oscar winner for The Silence of the Lambs, but also known for his landmark Talking Heads concert film Stop Making Sense) was looking for something to do.
Young, who is no stranger to the film process (Journey Through the Past, Rust Never Sleeps and his most recent project, Greendale), said he jumped at the chance to work with Demme.
"It's another hash house on the road to success," the singer said with a big laugh. "I had a bunch of songs I believed in, and Jonathan is a great filmmaker. It was a natural progression to make the film. The more cinematic my life becomes, the more I need to involve film in the process.
"Besides, every once in a while, it's a good thing to document what you've done."
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quote: Lazy Bones wrote:
Neil was at the Stones' Wiltern show in November of 2002.
Cool. I think I would recognize him if I saw him! lol
I read an interview with him not too long ago and he praised the Stones a lot. |
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quote: Ihavelotsajam wrote:
Neil Young would never be able to write adance song period-- he'd never be able to write something like Miss You, or Slave, or Dance, or RFD, or even Hot Stuff. The fact that the Stones are the only RnR band that can should be respected, instead they get trashed for it as always...
Oh yeah, and Neil Young is good.
His last album most certainly isn't, though. But I suppose he's acting his age on it.
Very true. I love Neil Young, but not on the level as the Stones. No other band comes close, imo. |
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quote: TampabayStone wrote:
You runied your post with this crap!
Everybody genuflect! |
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sirmoonie |
quote: Ihavelotsajam wrote:
Neil Young would never be able to write adance song period-- he'd never be able to write something like Miss You, or Slave, or Dance, or RFD, or even Hot Stuff. The fact that the Stones are the only RnR band that can should be respected, instead they get trashed for it as always...
Oh yeah, and Neil Young is good.
His last album most certainly isn't, though. But I suppose he's acting his age on it.
WTF? The Stones don't get trashed around here, where it counts, about doing "dance" tunes. Thats yet another reason why we revere them. And I wouldn't count Neil Young out. He just hasn't got to them yet.
May Neil Young be the greatest rocker of all time? Yes. Yes, he may just be. He just may be at that. |
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quote: Brainbell Jangler wrote:
Everybody genuflect!
Nice one! |
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Latest news from jambase.com today:
"As Harp Magazine reports today Neil Young has announced a new album... and it's already finished!
The news that Neil Young has a complete album in the bag shocked all of us at JamBase. On the heels of his very successful 2005 release, Prairie Wind and with his award-winning documentary Neil Young: Heart of Gold in theatres now, no one saw this coming.
Filmmaker Jonathan Demme (who filmed Neil Young: Heart of Gold) recently sent an email stating; "Neil just finished writing and recording – with no warning – a new album called Life in War. It all happened in three days."
Young has long worked under the "strike while the iron is hot" mentality, often working in creative spurts and never forcing it. Well, it seems the iron must have been burning bright for him to create a complete album in three days!
As Katherine Silkaitis at Harp reported, Demme went on to say, "It is a brilliant electric assault, accompanied by a 100-voice choir, on Bush and the war in Iraq... Truly mind blowing. Will be in stores soon."
Details are sketchy at best, but the featured song, "Impeach the President" contains Bush's voice accompanied by a choir chanting "flip/flop."
Stay tuned as JamBase will be sure to report as details unfold."
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Sir Stonesalot |
Oh man.
This is SO gonna piss people off.
I LOVE it. |
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Like we didn't know he was anti Neo-Con, I bet it rocks too! |
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Sir Stonesalot |
Hey, Prodigal Son should review this album for us.
I know it hasn't been released, and he hasn't heard it yet...but I'll bet he could tell us all about it.
So how about it man? Does it get a B+? Maybe just an A- because it's too preachy?
How will we know if we should buy it if our man Proddy doesn't clue us in about it!?!
Now don't go getting yer panties all in a twist Son....I'm just teasing. |
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quote: nanatod wrote:
Details are sketchy at best, but the featured song, "Impeach the President" contains Bush's voice accompanied by a choir chanting "flip/flop."
Sweet! |
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