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4th April 2006 07:27 PM
keeef so i know keef hated this what the hell was it?

and what did keef do when mick went up in it? just not look?
4th April 2006 08:08 PM
Gazza he tended to just play!

They used two in the 82 shows - one where Mick went up in it (usually with Ronnie) during Beast of Burden and then a larger one that he used to go over the crowd at the end on Satisfaction.
4th April 2006 08:19 PM
glencar The crowd at philly was startled when he first went up in it & then everyone laughed.
4th April 2006 08:58 PM
Break The Spell During the 81-82 tour, Mick stated he would get rid of the cherry picker if Keith quit certain drugs while on the road. Needless to say, the cherry picker stayed!!
4th April 2006 09:05 PM
M.O.W.A.T. There was also the show where Keith hijacked the cherry-picker and played an extended solo during Time Is On My Side. Needless to say, Mick was pissed.
4th April 2006 09:29 PM
pdog Mick dumped carnations on us in Philly, it was a madhouse, my friend got one and hid it, he thought someone would kill him for it. I got bashed around more in those few seconds than any mosh pit I was ever in.
4th April 2006 09:42 PM
Gazza
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M.O.W.A.T. wrote:
There was also the show where Keith hijacked the cherry-picker and played an extended solo during Time Is On My Side. Needless to say, Mick was pissed.



that supposedly was in Gothenburg (it wouldnt have been TIOMS - theres no solo to speak of), always beast of Burden. Supposedly he hijacked the cherry picker and played a 20 minute guitar solo. Which is, of course, absolute nonsense

Its one of Nick Kent's urban myths from that tour which was subsequently copied and pasted by almost every biographer for years afterwards (along with the fictional incident at Wembley where Keith supposedly punched Woody in the face for ballsing up Shes So Cold and the audience all cheered - didnt happen)
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4th April 2006 09:45 PM
pdog Keith did hammer the guy with his guitar on the 81-82 tour, that we know is true. He then had the guys bail paid.
Class act all the way!
4th April 2006 09:47 PM
M.O.W.A.T.
quote:
Gazza wrote:


that supposedly was in Gothenburg (it wouldnt have been TIOMS - theres no solo to speak of), always beast of Burden. Supposedly he hijacked the cherry picker and played a 20 minute guitar solo. Which is, of course, absolute nonsense

Its one of Nick Kent's urban myths from that tour which was subsequently copied and pasted by almost every biographer for years afterwards (along with the fictional incident at Wembley where Keith supposedly punched Woody in the face for ballsing up Shes So Cold and the audience all cheered - didnt happen)
[Edited by Gazza]



I stand corrected.

That's what I love about this band --> the stuff that legends are made of!
4th April 2006 09:54 PM
Gazza I know...the legend is much more fun than the reality, isnt it? LOL (we should do an urban myths page along the lines of "Muddy Waters painting the ceiling at Chess Studios..and 101 Other Tall Tales.."

I was pretty disappinted when I read that Gothenburg story and then checked the tape of the shows expecting to hear some long solo (because Id already had the tapes for years and hadnt noticed anything) and there was nothing worth talking about...
4th April 2006 10:33 PM
voodoopug
quote:
Gazza wrote:
I know...the legend is much more fun than the reality, isnt it? LOL (we should do an urban myths page along the lines of "Muddy Waters painting the ceiling at Chess Studios..and 101 Other Tall Tales.."

I was pretty disappinted when I read that Gothenburg story and then checked the tape of the shows expecting to hear some long solo (because Id already had the tapes for years and hadnt noticed anything) and there was nothing worth talking about...



This does not compare to the Led Zeppelin "Fish story"

One girl, a pretty young groupie with red hair, was disrobed and tied to the bed. According to the legend of the Shark Episode, Led Zeppelin then proceeded to stuff pieces of shark into her vagina and rectum.1


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Then there was the infamous "mudshark incident," which was actually more like a red herring. In 1969, Led Zeppelin checked into Seattle's Edgewater Inn. The place was a favorite with musicians because guests could fish from their rooms. The band hauled in some fish. Then they hauled in a seventeen-year-old redhead named Jackie. She mentioned she really liked being tied up. The obliging Englishmen ordered a rope from room service. Next, Jackie removed her clothes and the boys tied her to the bed. Then the road manager entertained the band by taking a red snapper and introducing it to the girl's private parts.2


Variations:
The incident involves some or all of the members of Led Zeppelin.

The piscatorial object involved is variously reported as a shark, a mud shark, a swordfish, a red snapper, or a generic fish.


In different versions the fish employed in the escapade is said to be alive, dead, or stuffed and mounted.

The female groupie is sometimes reported as having been tied (voluntarily or involuntarily) to the bed.

The extremes of the legend range from the band's using an intact fish to harmlessly pleasure a groupie, to their cutting up a fish and stuffing pieces into several of her bodily orifices.
Origins: Just as the cheery pop music of the early 1960s gave way to psychedelia and heavy metal as the decade progressed, so did interest in pop stars' lives move beyond comparisons of their hairstyles and favorite colors to consideration of the more salacious aspects of their lives. Favorite tales (then as now) involved drug use and sexual exploits, and, as usual, the most popular stories proved to be mixtures of truth, fiction, exaggeration, and publicity stunts. For example, the Rolling Stones, who probably spawned more legends of the "sex and drugs" variety than any other band of the rock 'n' roll era, spanned the spectrum: the lurid tale of Mick Jagger's being caught in a compromising position with girlfriend Marianne Faithfull during a drug raid at Keith Richards' home was pure invention; an infamous film clip in which the band members passed a naked groupie around their tour plane was staged for the cameras; rumors of Keith Richards' beating his heroin addiction by having his blood changed were exaggerations; and Angela Bowie's account of catching her husband, David Bowie, in bed with Mick Jagger was true in the details but rather innocuous in its implications.

The most ubiquitous non-Stones-related tale is unquestionably the infamous "mud shark" legend, which relates how members of Led Zeppelin supposedly employed a (live) shark as a sexual device with a pliant female groupie. This story is tough to classify as either "true" or "false" because so many different versions with varying details exist, but we might safely say it's one of many legends formed from a kernel of truth covered with several layers of exaggeration and embellishment.

The core incident took place at the The Edgewater in Seattle (probably at the time of the group's 27 July 1969 appearance at the Seattle Pop Festival), a hotel on Puget Sound from which guests could fish right out the windows of their rooms. According to Richard Cole, Led Zeppelin's road manager, he and drummer John Bonham (aka "Bonzo") were busily engaged in the pastime of catching sharks through an Edgewater window when they were interrupted by some persistent groupies, but what occurred next didn't quite live up to the notorious modern version of the legend:

It wasn't Bonzo, it was me. It wasn't shark parts anyway: It was the nose that got put in. We caught a lot of big sharks, at least two dozen, stuck coat hangers through the gills and left 'em in the closet . . . But the true shark story was that it wasn't even a shark. It was a red snapper and the chick happened to be a fucking redheaded broad with a ginger pussy. And that is the truth. Bonzo was in the room, but I did it. Mark Stein [of Vanilla Fudge] filmed the whole thing. And she loved it. It was like, "You'd like a bit of fucking, eh? Let's see how your red snapper likes this red snapper!" That was it. It was the nose of the fish, and that girl must have come 20 times. But it was nothing malicious or harmful, no way! No one was ever hurt.
So yes, a female groupie was sexually engaged with a fish, but the fish was not a shark (and was presumably dead from having been stuck on a coat hanger), it wasn't "stuffed" inside her, the only member of Led Zeppelin present at the time (John Bonham) was merely an onlooker rather than an active participant, and the woman left the hotel unharmed. (Richard Cole may not have been the most accurate chronicler of Led Zeppelin's history, but since his accounts tend to run to excess it's safe to assume the reality was no wilder than he presented it. In any case, accounts given by others connected with the incident don't substantially contradict Cole's version.)

Nonetheless, tales of sexual exploits involving groupies and animals are familiar entries in the Led Zeppelin canon of rumors:

One evening, two young girls were lounging in the bathtub of Led Zeppelin's hotel suite. Page walked in. He giggled, "We figured you need something to keep you company." Then he threw four live octopuses into the tub. The young ladies wound up enjoying the octopuses more than the rockers. "Oh my god," squealed one of them, "I've gotta get one of these. It's like having an eight-armed vibrator!"

Led Zeppelin later cheered on another adventurous female fan while she made love with her pet Great Dane. The boys in the band even provided strategically placed bacon for the Great Dane's pleasure.2
Sightings: The "Mud Shark" was immortalized in song by Frank Zappa during a Fillmore East gig in June 1971.
4th April 2006 10:36 PM
corgi37 Can some one fill in the details of the clown who got clobbered with the guitar. You say Keith paid his bail. Jolly decent of him. But, who was the guy? His name? Why did he do what he did? What did he think of getting smacked?
5th April 2006 02:11 AM
pdog I saw the video of the dude running up on stage and Keith whacking him.... The bail part I heard just recently, here I think.
5th April 2006 07:02 AM
Break The Spell
quote:
corgi37 wrote:
Can some one fill in the details of the clown who got clobbered with the guitar. You say Keith paid his bail. Jolly decent of him. But, who was the guy? His name? Why did he do what he did? What did he think of getting smacked?



I've always wondered this myself, it looks as if he ran up on stage to try and take something, or maybe just hang out with the band while they were jamming on Satisfaction. Either way Keith showed he didn't want him there!! I'm just curious if the guy was ever interviewed, and told was what going through his head.
5th April 2006 07:33 AM
Gazza
quote:
Break The Spell wrote:
I'm just curious if the guy was ever interviewed, and told was what going through his head.



the only thing that was going through his head was a telecaster!
5th April 2006 09:11 AM
gimmekeef Gaza...sure ruin my day..!...You mean Muddy wasnt paintin the ceiling?....damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!lmao
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