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ob Thompson, National Post
Published: Monday, March 31, 2008
NEW YORK - Martin Scorsese seemed slightly bemused as the kings of rock 'n' roll held court at the Palace Hotel yesterday. Scorsese and the Rolling Stones gathered here to talk about their common ground, rock documentary Shine A Light, which opens on Friday. But they were obviously from two different worlds as the movie and the news conference show.
There was the meticulously detailed Oscar-winning filmmaker Scorsese, and the rollicking Stones -- still churlish Mick Jagger, sly Keith Richards, jack-of-all trades Ron Wood and stoic timekeeper Charlie Watts.
"That's the nature of what it is," said Scorsese referring to the colliding demands of filming and staging a rock show. "You have fun with the tension and the humour of it."
The conflicts between the director and Jagger over the placement of the 16 cameras filming the event weren't staged. "It was totally real," confirmed the singer, smirking at the memory.
Scorsese said he had "a compulsion" to define the 2006 performances from the Stones' A Bigger Bang tour at Manhattan's Beacon Theatre interspersed with backstage antics, contemporary interviews and TV interview footage from the band's early days.
At the Shine A Light premiere at the Ziegfeld Theatre last night, friends and fans also got to see a more revealing take on each of the Stones, not to mention a young Jagger predicting during a 1960s chat show that the group just might last a few more years.
And like Scorsese's The Last Waltz, a farewell concert tribute for The Band, Shine A Light has guest artists to add some sugar and spice to the proceedings.
Buddy Guy's stirring rendition of Muddy Waters' tune Champagne and Reefer with Jagger is memorable, while White Stripe's Jack White tends to be more subservient with his teaming up on Loving Cup. Christina Aguilera and Jagger exercise their innuendo with a rendition of Live With Me.
And it's not often you get laughs with concert documentaries but Shine A Light has more than a few, including Scorsese fretting over the set list at the beginning and former president Bill Clinton showing up with his awkward well-wishers before the show starts.
Earlier at the press conference, Jagger said he thought the Buddy Guy duet "was one of the high points of Shine A Light." Added Richards, "Why do you think I gave him one of my guitars?"
Scorsese noted that "every song is like a character" in the movie. And the director knows all about that, having used Stones tunes often in his other features, including Gimme Shelter at pivotal times in Goodfellas and The Departed. So is that why the Stones hired Scorsese? "We didn't chose Marty," Richards said. "Marty chose us."
Meanwhile, The Stones revealed their wit with reporters, just as they had in the movie.
When Jagger was asked what kind of vitamins he takes to get so energetic on stage, Richards chimed in. "If we told you that, you'd all be on it," he said grinning.
Another reporter wanted to know if the band would continue touring into their seventies? "That's only five years away," replied Richards chuckling.
Toronto-based Michael Cohl, the film's producer and mastermind behind the multi-million-dollar Stones tours, confirmed the band travels to London to do the same sort of promotion tour on Wednesday for the opening of Shine A Light.
Before the press conference, Cohl explained the Stones put the concert movie in motion when they heard Scorsese might be interested in the project. "I thought it would be a great creative combination," said Cohl, who also appears briefly in some scenes.
So what does the future hold for the Stones? Cohl wouldn't say whether the group will tour again. They've already criss-crossed the globe "six or seven times" since 1989. But he did hint at something more to come. "We've always thought of doing different stuff," he said. |
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| Mel Belli |
Of course he's not sure -- it's not his decision! Then again, these days, maybe it is. |
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| FotiniD |
Doesn't seem to me like he's confirming or denying anything really, but anyway, I'd rather wait to hear for things like that from his bosses  |
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| LadyJane |
Oh please.
If anything that statment just about ASSURES us that something is brewing.
That sly fox is gearing us up to open our wallets.
Bet the ranch.
LJ. |
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| gimmekeef |
Something diferent says Cohl?...How about setlists like SAL...prices like 1989...Three night runs in Arenas only...Stripped down stages...Guitars way up in mix (and actually being played)...No room on new stage for the extras cept Bobby...Cohl home in Toronto jackin the shit outta U2 tickets...No more B stage been there done that...A new album with 5 songs worth playin every night...Gee I just realized I shoulda waited till tomorrow to post this Aprils Fool request... |
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| PartyDoll MEG |
quote:
gimmekeef wrote:
Something diferent says Cohl?...How about setlists like SAL...prices like 1989...Three night runs in Arenas only...Stripped down stages...Guitars way up in mix (and actually being played)...No room on new stage for the extras cept Bobby...Cohl home in Toronto jackin the shit outta U2 tickets...No more B stage been there done that...A new album with 5 songs worth playin every night...Gee I just realized I shoulda waited till tomorrow to post this Aprils Fool request...
Too late..you'll have to think of another one, keef!
Me..just taking one day at a time and enjoying it..
A new movie to see this weekend. A new Stones CD to listen to--yeah I'm skipping the "overplayed regulars" and listening to the little jems.
and then maybe I'll get a surprise down the road.... |
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| mrhipfl |
Does anybody know how much Cohl made from the Bigger Bang Tour? |
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| gimmekeef |
quote:
mrhipfl wrote:
Does anybody know how much Cohl made from the Bigger Bang Tour?
Wayyyyyyyyy too much...just tried to take a deduction on taxes for Stones related expenses and Turbotax said no! |
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| Joey |
< ---- BEST STONES YET !!!!!
Concur Lil' Fella ( Lil' Fijikins ) .
However , I do not see them touring the United States until the Democrats sweep into office later on this year .
LBJOEY ! |
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| glencar |
Never gonna happen... |
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| polytoxic |
quote:
gimmekeef wrote:
Something diferent says Cohl?...How about setlists like SAL...prices like 1989...Three night runs in Arenas only...Stripped down stages...Guitars way up in mix (and actually being played)...No room on new stage for the extras cept Bobby...Cohl home in Toronto jackin the shit outta U2 tickets...No more B stage been there done that...A new album with 5 songs worth playin every night...Gee I just realized I shoulda waited till tomorrow to post this Aprils Fool request...
BOO-YA! Nice one. I'm hoping it doesn't mean a bunch of one-off pay-per-view shows like I heard rumours of last year. |
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| mojoman |
as long as people keep paying high ticket prices the stones will tour....... |
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| Joey |
quote:
mojoman wrote:
as long as people keep paying high ticket prices the stones will tour.......
Indeed you are now strong like the Emperor has forseen
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| andrews27 |
I hate the fact that Marty's recent desperate need for projects has made him the Stones' bitch, when if he was riding slightly higher these days he'd be an equal. Did they treat Godard like this? |
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| Mel Belli |
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andrews27 wrote:
I hate the fact that Marty's recent desperate need for projects has made him the Stones' bitch, when if he was riding slightly higher these days he'd be an equal. Did they treat Godard like this?
Scorsese is just coming off his first (and long overdue) Oscar and his highest-grossing film? What leads you to believe he's desperate? |
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| Some Guy |
Father Time unsure if Stones will tour again |
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| Poison Dart |
There is zero doubt in my little mind that the Stones will tour again (God willing) |
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| Gazza |
quote:
gimmekeef wrote:
Something diferent says Cohl?...How about setlists like SAL...prices like 1989...Three night runs in Arenas only...Stripped down stages...Guitars way up in mix (and actually being played)...No room on new stage for the extras cept Bobby...Cohl home in Toronto jackin the shit outta U2 tickets...No more B stage been there done that...A new album with 5 songs worth playin every night...Gee I just realized I shoulda waited till tomorrow to post this Aprils Fool request...
I'd agree with everything you've said, but all of the above are the Stones' decision (apart from the bit about U2 - and even that is probably linked to how much they see the Stones can get away with!)
Cohl has no real interest in the band's musical and artistic development. Unfortunately, as the years go on and they see how easy it is to generate money via the nostalgia market, the Stones' interest in doing so is also diminishing. |
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| pdog |
Unsure if Stones will tour... didn't Moses say that? |
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| Joey |
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pdog wrote:
Unsure if Stones will tour... didn't Moses say that?
Robert Moses ?!
** " RM !! " **
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| Gazza |
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Poison Dart wrote:
There is zero doubt in my little mind that the Stones will tour again (God willing)
yep..and this will be the shape of things to come.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7322106.stm
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| andrews27 |
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Scorsese is just coming off his first (and long overdue) Oscar and his highest-grossing film? What leads you to believe he's desperate?
1) Past self-parody like Bringing Out the Dead w/ Nic Cage
2) Gangs of NY flopped. (Though I like it, many more didn't)
3) Has gone around complaining that he can't come up with any original projects or good adaptations (rather like Mick complaining that his songwriting had dried up in the Emotional Rescue-Tattoo You period)
4) Marty steals the Dylan No Direction Home project from another filmmaker who'd spent years assembling the footage and interviewing BD.
5) Marty remakes a Hong Kong action picture almost scene-for-scene, gets an Oscar for great cast, overdue debt, and sheer balls. OK, it's a good picture, better than we've had from him or anybody in a while. But it was somebody else's good picture first.
6) Desperately licks a trail behind Mick to get SAL project, gets treated like a lackey in return.
Current press on Marty presents these facts, except for (6) which they haven't picked up on yet, but is evident in the SAL press.
Marty needs a top-shelf original script to be back on top where he belongs. Right now, he's on the plateau of Casino and Gangs, with two remakes just behind him. Are there scriptwriters up to Marty's standards today? Thank God he didn't get saddled with American Gangster (co-produced by Goodfellas and Casino author Nick Pileggi).
[Edited by andrews27] |
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| Some Guy |
http://1.content.collegehumor.com/d1/ch6/0/f/collegehumor.88700170511e57b947b7b21f804da034.jpg |
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| andrews27 |
quote:
Joey wrote:
Robert Moses ?!
** " RM !! " **
Robert Moses said, "It's my way, or the highway!" |
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| Joey |
quote:
andrews27 wrote:
Robert Moses said, "It's my way, or the highway!"
He most certainly did andrews27
...and , he was always ' money honest ' --- there is a lesson in there for all of us .
Jacky Moses
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| andrews27 |
quote:
Joey wrote:
He most certainly did andrews27
...and , he was always ' money honest ' --- there is a lesson in there for all of us .
Jacky Moses
He meant the West Side Highway. |
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| Dawg Pound Gordon |
quote:
Poison Dart wrote:
There is zero doubt in my little mind that the Stones will tour again (God willing)
I'm looking forward to at least one more tour!?!?!?
[Edited by Dawg Pound Gordon] |
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| Joey |
quote:
glencar wrote:
Never gonna happen...
What ?!
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| Joey |
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andrews27 wrote:
He meant the West Side Highway.
I thought it was the ' Cross Bronx Expressway ' ( the One Mile ) .
Developing ....................
Surscee Joe ! ™
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