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19th February 2008 02:18 PM
Brainbell Jangler
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:


November is still many months away...You might want to put your hinges back on


You jump on the Clinton smear bandwagon with a story that was fully discussed in the Boston Globe almost a year ago and then suggest that I'm unhinged? At least you're consistent (in an Emersonian kind of way).
19th February 2008 02:25 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:
Brainbell Jangler wrote:

You jump on the Clinton smear bandwagon with a story that was fully discussed in the Boston Globe almost a year ago and then suggest that I'm unhinged? At least you're consistent (in an Emersonian kind of way).



Simmer down now...I'm on your side...we're pop lockin' all the way to Penn Ave

19th February 2008 02:32 PM
Joey
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:


Simmer down now...I'm on your side...we're pop lockin' all the way to Penn Ave





!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19th February 2008 07:13 PM
glencar
quote:
Joey wrote:



Hell , the guy posts over at www.MaxLugar.com .. what do you EXPECT ?!


{ CA - FRIGGIN - RACK !!!!! }





" Hit Me Ronnie ! "


J'Lo'Kins ! , Est. 1999

yer jes jealous...
19th February 2008 07:16 PM
glencar
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:
This statement just released from the Obama campaign headquarters...

"Barack is not stealing speeches...he's just sampling...there's a difference yo"



[Edited by Biggie Small]
[Edited by Grandmaster Flash]
[Edited by Doug E. Fresh]
[Edited by Fiji Joe]

g, das de best!
19th February 2008 07:18 PM
glencar
quote:
nanatod wrote:


9 of the 12 songs on The Rolling Stones, England's Newest Hitmakers were by people other than Jagger / Richards. Did the Stones "rip off" those songs "from a guy...?" No, they made the songs their own, popularized the ideas in the songs, and changed the world.

Whatever Barack Obama's faults may be (and I think they are few, if any), taking a couple of sentences from Deval and making more people aware of the ideas in the sentences, isn't something he should be faulted for.





One of his many faults is that he doesn't give credit where credit is due. Also, he wants to tax the actual life out of those of us who work for a living & thirdly, his wife is not quite the campaign asset we all thought she'd be. Yep, once again, the Dems steal defeat from the jaws of victory!
19th February 2008 09:37 PM
Rev Twenty Redlights Wisconsin:

O Bama Hey Bama
Bamma Bamma O
Bama Hey Bama O Bama
Hey O B, O B won't you smile at me?
Bama O Bama Hey Superstar

Riffhard Glencar et al:

Tell the rabble to be quiet
We anticipate a riot
This common crowd
Is much too loud
Tell the mob who sing your song
That they are fools and they are wrong
They are a curse
They should disperse

Hawaii:

O Bama Hey Bama
Bamma Bamma O
Bama Hey Bama O Bama
Hey O B, O B you're alright by me
Bama O Bama Hey Superstar

Me:

Why waste your breath moaning at the crowd?
Nothing can be done to stop the shouting
If ev'ry tongue was still the noise would still continue
The rocks and Stones themselves would start to sing:

America:

O Bama Hey Bama
Bamma Bamma O
Bama Hey Bama O Bama
Hey O B, O B won't you fight for me?
Bama O Bama Hey Superstar
19th February 2008 09:43 PM
LadyJane McCain vs Obama for POTUS.
yep.

very interesting.........

LJ.
19th February 2008 10:14 PM
Riffhard OMG! The speech that this man is giving may as well be straight from Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto. If people are really buying into this transparently socialist/pseudo communist agenda than the country that the Founding Fathers envisioned is on it's way out. Read the US Constitution and then read Obama's speech. If you can honestly tell me that they are not from a vastly different point of view than you have zero ida of what the Founding Fathers envisioned in the first place.


This guy is goddamned sham!



Riffy
19th February 2008 10:33 PM
lotsajizz No, rifftard, the sham is "W" and the big government/Jesusfreaks who hijacked this Great Nation's vision from that of the Founding Fathers to a bunch of oil geeks and 'joint citizenship' holders....
19th February 2008 11:06 PM
Riffhard
quote:
lotsajizz wrote:
No, rifftard, the sham is "W" and the big government/Jesusfreaks who hijacked this Great Nation's vision from that of the Founding Fathers to a bunch of oil geeks and 'joint citizenship' holders....



Oh look it's the board pariah trying to turn my post about a blatantly socialist speech into another Bush bashing occasion.

I ain't buying jizzbot!


Don't look now, but you're late for the parade fuckstick!

"Yes you can! Asshole."






Riffy
20th February 2008 06:42 AM
lotsajizz It is sad that people turn to such socialism as practiced by the geeks who've hijacked the GOP. I betcha rifftard was once actually against socialism...now he preaches it...
20th February 2008 06:54 AM
Ronnie Richards This from Obama's speech last night:
"The essential conditions for the existence and for the sway of the bourgeois class is the formation and augmentation of capital; the condition for capital is wage labor. Wage labor rests exclusively on competition between the laborers. The advance of industry, whose involuntary promoter is the bourgeoisie, replaces the isolation of the laborers, due to competition, by the revolutionary combination, due to association. The development of Modern Industry, therefore, cuts from under its feet the very foundation on which the bourgeoisie produces and appropriates products. What the bourgeoisie therefore produces, above all, are its own grave-diggers. Its fall and the victory of the proletariat are equally inevitable."
20th February 2008 08:04 AM
Factory Girl
quote:
glencar wrote:
his wife is not quite the campaign asset we all thought she'd be. Yep, once again, the Dems steal defeat from the jaws of victory!



She is, however, quite the campaign ASS we all thought she'd be.
20th February 2008 08:57 AM
Riffhard
quote:
lotsajizz wrote:
It is sad that people turn to such socialism as practiced by the geeks who've hijacked the GOP. I betcha rifftard was once actually against socialism...now he preaches it...




LOL! God damned you're such an easy mark!


You talk about the GOP being hijacked while completely ignoring the George Soros leftists fucks that have totally morphed a once great Democrat party into a party of finger wagging America hating fucks. Look at what they are doing in Berkley these days asshole. I have quite a few friends that have been card carrying Dems for decades now that can't stand what has become of the Dems under the leadership of idiots like Pelosi and Reid via their puppet master Soros! Not to mention the dolts like you that ignore what has happened to your party in your insane hatred of Bush. Hey moron, he's out of office soon. He's not running! Let go of the hate.


You're an idiot. It's really that simple.


You seem to not have the cash to buy a clue Jizzstain so this one's for free.
___________________________________________________________


President Daniel Ortega, who once was swept into power by a Soviet-backed Marxist movement in Nicaragua and later came back through popular election, said that US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is a "revolutionary phenomenon" in US politics.

Speaking at one of Nicaragua's universities, President Ortega said "It's not to say that there is already a revolution under way in the U.S. ... but yes, they are laying the bases for a revolutionary change". Moreover, the Sandinista leader said after receiving an honorary doctorate, that he has "faith in God and in the North American people, and above all in the youth, that the moment of great change in the U.S. will come and it will act differently, with justice and equality toward all nations."

___________________________________________________________


So I guess Ortega is your idea of a great patriot, huh?


A great man in Jizzswallower's estimation!










You go comrade! Yes you can can Jizzlapper!!



Hurry Jizzgurgler! You're gonna be late!





Riffy






[Edited by Riffhard]
20th February 2008 08:58 AM
gimmekeef It aint over till the fat lady cries..again.....
20th February 2008 09:34 AM
Factory Girl
quote:
Riffhard wrote:
OMG! The speech that this man is giving may as well be straight from Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto.

This guy is goddamned sham!

Riffy



I've read the Communist Manifesto, and Barry Obama is no Marx.

I do agree with you that's Barry is a complete sham.
20th February 2008 09:45 AM
Fiji Joe
quote:
Ronnie Richards wrote:
This from Obama's speech last night:
"The essential conditions for the existence and for the sway of the bourgeois class is the formation and augmentation of capital; the condition for capital is wage labor. Wage labor rests exclusively on competition between the laborers. The advance of industry, whose involuntary promoter is the bourgeoisie, replaces the isolation of the laborers, due to competition, by the revolutionary combination, due to association. The development of Modern Industry, therefore, cuts from under its feet the very foundation on which the bourgeoisie produces and appropriates products. What the bourgeoisie therefore produces, above all, are its own grave-diggers. Its fall and the victory of the proletariat are equally inevitable."



Are you making that up?...He said this?

Jesus...even the Chinese and the Russians have moved away from this type of thought
20th February 2008 09:51 AM
SweetVirginia I think Karl Marx said it, Feej.
20th February 2008 09:57 AM
Fiji Joe
quote:
SweetVirginia wrote:
I think Karl Marx said it, Feej.



Wrong...Marx' message was about hope and change...I've read Marx...and all I took from away from him was that he was hoping for change...his wife couldn't dance though...so he lost in the primary election
20th February 2008 10:25 AM
PartyDoll MEG
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:


Are you making that up?...He said this?

Jesus...even the Chinese and the Russians have moved away from this type of thought

I think someone's takin the piss...

Stir it up.... stir it up

Ahhh.. my humble opinion...

no political candidate in the USA would ever address an audience in an election year using all those "big words." I'd venture to say, no political candidate in the USA could probably spell them let alone say them..
20th February 2008 10:25 AM
JohnLeeHacker A black marxist senilist for next president of the USA,
passed or futur?
20th February 2008 10:29 AM
Fiji Joe
quote:
PartyDoll MEG wrote:
I think someone's takin the piss...

Stir it up.... stir it up

Ahhh.. my humble opinion...

no political candidate in the USA would ever address an audience in an election year using all those "big words." I'd venture to say, no political candidate in the USA could probably spell them let alone say them..



You're right...it's best to keep the message hollow and simple...

"Yes We Can"

BTW...wasn't that Amway's slogan back in the 90s?
20th February 2008 10:42 AM
Factory Girl Quoted directly From "The Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx--

"We see, therefore, how the modern bourgeoisie is itself the product of a long course of development, of a series of revolutions in the modes of production and of exchange.

Each step in the development of the bourgeoisie was accompanied by a corresponding political advance in that class. An oppressed class under the sway of the feudal nobility, an armed and self-governing association of medieval commune [4]: here independent urban republic (as in Italy and Germany); there taxable "third estate" of the monarchy (as in France); afterward, in the period of manufacturing proper, serving either the semi-feudal or the absolute monarchy as a counterpoise against the nobility, and, in fact, cornerstone of the great monarchies in general -- the bourgeoisie has at last, since the establishment of Modern Industry and of the world market, conquered for itself, in the modern representative state, exclusive political sway. The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie.

The bourgeoisie, historically, has played a most revolutionary part.

The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his "natural superiors", and has left no other nexus between people than naked self-interest, than callous "cash payment". It has drowned out the most heavenly ecstacies of religious fervor, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom -- Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.

....The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real condition of life and his relations with his kind.

The need of a constantly expanding market for its products chases the bourgeoisie over the entire surface of the globe. It must nestle everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connections everywhere."


20th February 2008 10:48 AM
Scottfree
quote:
Riffhard wrote:



LOL! God damned you're such an easy mark!


You talk about the GOP being hijacked while completely ignoring the George Soros leftists fucks that have totally morphed a once great Democrat party into a party of finger wagging America hating fucks. Look at what they are doing in Berkley these days asshole. I have quite a few friends that have been card carrying Dems for decades now that can't stand what has become of the Dems under the leadership of idiots like Pelosi and Reid via there puppet master Soros! Not to mention the dolts like you that ignore what has happened to your party in your insane hatred of Bush. Hey moron, he's out of office soon. He's not running! Let go of the hate.


You're an idiot. It's really that simple.


You seem to not have the cash to buy a clue Jizzstain so this one's for free.
___________________________________________________________


President Daniel Ortega, who once was swept into power by a Soviet-backed Marxist movement in Nicaragua and later came back through popular election, said that US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is a "revolutionary phenomenon" in US politics.

Speaking at one of Nicaragua's universities, President Ortega said "It's not to say that there is already a revolution under way in the U.S. ... but yes, they are laying the bases for a revolutionary change". Moreover, the Sandinista leader said after receiving an honorary doctorate, that he has "faith in God and in the North American people, and above all in the youth, that the moment of great change in the U.S. will come and it will act differently, with justice and equality toward all nations."

___________________________________________________________


So I guess Ortega is your idea of a great patriot, huh?


A great man in Jizzswallower's estimation!










You go comrade! Yes you can can Jizzlapper!!



Hurry Jizzgurgler! You're gonna be late!





Riffy









Excellent post, I thank you... I guess this should follow with a picture of a kitten or something...
[Edited by Scottfree]
20th February 2008 10:54 AM
PartyDoll MEG
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:


You're right...it's best to keep the message hollow and simple...

"Yes We Can"

BTW...wasn't that Amway's slogan back in the 90s?

Which One?

"Takin the Piss"?
20th February 2008 10:57 AM
Fiji Joe
quote:
Factory Girl wrote:
Quoted directly From "The Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx--

"We see, therefore, how the modern bourgeoisie is itself the product of a long course of development, of a series of revolutions in the modes of production and of exchange.

Each step in the development of the bourgeoisie was accompanied by a corresponding political advance in that class. An oppressed class under the sway of the feudal nobility, an armed and self-governing association of medieval commune [4]: here independent urban republic (as in Italy and Germany); there taxable "third estate" of the monarchy (as in France); afterward, in the period of manufacturing proper, serving either the semi-feudal or the absolute monarchy as a counterpoise against the nobility, and, in fact, cornerstone of the great monarchies in general -- the bourgeoisie has at last, since the establishment of Modern Industry and of the world market, conquered for itself, in the modern representative state, exclusive political sway. The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie.

The bourgeoisie, historically, has played a most revolutionary part.

The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his "natural superiors", and has left no other nexus between people than naked self-interest, than callous "cash payment". It has drowned out the most heavenly ecstacies of religious fervor, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom -- Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.

....The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real condition of life and his relations with his kind.

The need of a constantly expanding market for its products chases the bourgeoisie over the entire surface of the globe. It must nestle everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connections everywhere."




I counted 15 "Yes we can"s in that passage...
20th February 2008 10:58 AM
Fiji Joe
quote:
PartyDoll MEG wrote:
Which One?

"Takin the Piss"?



I think "yes we can" was their slogan in the 90's...I think "takin' the piss" was their slogan the following decade
20th February 2008 11:08 AM
Factory Girl
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:


I counted 15 "Yes we can"s in that passage...



LOL... I believe that putting BO in the office will be a huge mistake because of his gargantuan inadequacy.

I also believe that comparing BO to Marx misleadingly elevates BO's abilities.

I think that BO is best compared to the King with no clothes.
20th February 2008 12:39 PM
Fiji Joe I can't help but think we've seen this Obama phenomenon before...






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