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03-31-03 12:58 PM
Maxlugar [quote]100 Years Ago wrote:
sadly that seems to be the goal of our present adminstration to provoke and anger more attacks so they can have ongoing wars, rally everyone around the flag, ratchet up the fear quotient and fuel the fire to stoke the war machine to roll on continously. more innocent lives will be lost and for what? AND don't tell me freedom and liberation, that's a bunch of bs. It's time to stop believing in fairy tales and realize the group running this country could give fuck-all about the american public or the world in general. we're just pawns on a chessboard where the goal is world power globally and a nice mixed cocktail of socialism and fascism nationally. The Patriot Act was only the beginning.

Welcome to 21st USA: 1984 spiked with a shot of Fareheit 451--bottoms up!


Shiver me timbers!!!

Aaaagck gck gck gck gck!

03-31-03 01:08 PM
Fiji Joe Vampire...your willingness to speak about things you have no idea about amazes me...I spent 11 years in the military doing nothing but studying and implementing military strategy...You do a lot of that have you?...and who the fuck said anything about strategy anyway?...I was commenting on Geraldo's poor judgment...your rhetoric is tired and old and quite frankly, stupid...nothing that comes out of that mosh-pit you call a mouth makes sense...I will credit your stupidity to poor English...but something tells me that you are really as dumb as you sound

03-31-03 02:17 PM
marcus aurelianus MATHIJS IS THE MAN !

Thank you very much for all you say with good English .
Mine is not as good . I had been waiting that for months .
Thanks again .

03-31-03 02:36 PM
J.J.Flash
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:
...I will credit your stupidity to poor English...but something tells me that you are really as dumb as you sound





I don't want to join in this FIGHT, but wait Fiji, the guy in question, dont't have a poor English. At least, as far as I can see.
03-31-03 02:55 PM
vampire Fiji Doe, you really don't need simplify the question to your language, thus it's quite simple. Don't you have better arguments?


[Edited by vampire]
03-31-03 03:05 PM
J.J.Flash N�o esquente mais a cabe�a com essa briga meu caro Vampire! N�o nos levar� a nada, e possivelmente, muitas pessoas boas, inclusive bons americanos inteligentes e respeitadores podem ficar ofendidos. De qualquer modo, voc� me parece um caro muito culto e informado. Realmente aprecio isso, s� posso lhe dar parab�ns em conseguir argumentar t�o bem! Espero que vc responda minhas mensagens particulares. faz muito tempo que tenho tentado falar contigo.
Don't fight anymore my Rocks Off brothers! Please!
Cheers!
03-31-03 03:12 PM
Fiji Joe Arguments in response to what Vampire?...Are you advancing any arguments?...All I can see is the advancement of your anti-american and anti-bush agenda...Now, If the leader of your country had any significance in world affairs, then his or her decisions could be called into question..So, it is quite convenient for you to stand back and bash...is it not?...
03-31-03 03:38 PM
icydanger


chor us
then the bridge
why oh why
do young people have to lose their lifes in these kind of debates


anyway hitler,
the germans were supporting him at a time
until they realized
he even had books burned
so forget about
freedom of speech
*brainwashed populations

people support power
when we forget equity
misunderstand beliefs


these interventions are sending
wave schocks that may unbalance the planet
throwing stones?

why
highwire tears


no rolling stones
03-31-03 03:41 PM
vampire
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:
Arguments in response to what Vampire?...Are you advancing any arguments?...All I can see is the advancement of your anti-american and anti-bush agenda...Now, If the leader of your country had any significance in world affairs, then his or her decisions could be called into question..So, it is quite convenient for you to stand back and bash...is it not?...



Fiji Doe
Should I call the pope?
03-31-03 03:58 PM
Maxlugar Don't call the Pope until we get a young, studly, muscular, Robert Plant-like Pope!

One with his shirt opened all the way down to the belt buckle so we can see his powerful, jet black chest and stomach hair.

Then, THEN!, you'll be sorry!

MACKY!
03-31-03 03:58 PM
cocksucker Fiji Jim the only thing you are doing is insulting and disparage people who don't agree with you. In this whole discussion you have never ever mentioned one argument that made sense. Your old-fashioned war rhetoric sounds very boring. Please go and play with your toy soldiers in your sand pit. With a bit imagination you might think it's the desert.
03-31-03 06:43 PM
vampire
quote:
Maxlugar wrote:
Don't call the Pope until we get a young, studly, muscular, Robert Plant-like Pope!

One with his shirt opened all the way down to the belt buckle so we can see his powerful, jet black chest and stomach hair.

Then, THEN!, you'll be sorry!

MACKY!



Hummmm, i think I would prefer a Charlie Watts like pope...
03-31-03 07:07 PM
vampire The picture below is from a Rio de Janeiro protest last sunday. Good humour had that people, huh?


But, one thing I can�t understand, that anti-american thing in the whole world. Now I�m wondering why here in my small hometown people are boycotting (?) McDonalds. I really don�t get what those ignorants are thinking.

Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
Kill all those bastards in Iraq
DAMN!!!




(Reuters picture)
03-31-03 07:39 PM
100 Years Ago [quote]vampire wrote:
The picture below is from a Rio de Janeiro protest last sunday. Good humour had that people, huh?

That's a great photo! My Saddam, what nicely manicured nails you have.
03-31-03 07:47 PM
Jair Motta Well, it seems the women are always ahead us, hah?
Anyway, i like that picture as well. I was there yesterday and i looking myself in some picuture now, was a very funny act.
[Edited by Jair Motta]
03-31-03 07:51 PM
vampire And that is from Reuters (reuters.com)

No Sign Yet of Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction
Mon March 31, 2003 04:45 PM ET
By Carol Giacomo, Diplomatic Correspondent
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Twelve days into the invasion of Iraq, there is no sign of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's suspected weapons of mass destruction, the primary rationale for the U.S.-led war now pummeling the country.

U.S. officials remain confident those arms will turn up. But if they do not, President Bush's reasons for war will be severely undercut.




03-31-03 08:14 PM
Riffhard The difference here between you,vampire and those of us who know that this war is "just" is simple. We know,even the French goverment knows,that Saddam has these weapons. No,the difference is this. If the US and Britain don't find the weapons most Americans would be up in arms and demand an answer for the legitamacy of this war. Then I,and many here,would admit that it was unnessasary. You,and those like you,would never admit that the war nessasary if and when the WMDs are found.

Then again Saddam would never give those weapons to terrorists and ask them to use them against Brazil now would he? See,vampire,I know people that died on 9/11/01. I also know that Saddam has vowed the death of my country. So ofcourse you can sit back and bitch all you want. Saddam does not threaten you or your country. I have never been more proud to be an American and I could give a flying fuck what anyone in Brazil thinks about my country,my president,or our right to take action on a madman who has killed millions without batting an eye.

As I recall,nobody thought that Hitler was too bad until it was far too late. The world has seen the evilness of this man yet only the brave countries that promote democracy have the balls and the forsight to do anything about it!

Spare me all of your moralistic arguments. You would sit back and let Saddam continue to brutalize the Iraqi people. That tells me all I need to know about your own moral convictions.


Riffhard
03-31-03 09:27 PM
vampire Who wrote "No Sign Yet of Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction" was not me, Riffhard, I think it has been said/wrote by a journalist of USA in Iraq, as you can see above.

If the matter is the right to killing people, why you government just didn�t send some CIA agents to kill Saddan only? Why kill anyone? More fun? more money envolved?
Please school me here, because I can�t see any point in the US attack against Iraq and his people.


And, once again: I�m truly sorry, as most of the world, about 9/11. Do you think anyone might be liked those events? If you think so, then something�s very wrong in your mind.









04-01-03 12:57 AM
littleredrooster [quote]vampire wrote:


If the matter is the right to killing people, why you government just didn�t send some CIA agents to kill Saddan only?

Vampire,

Although you rarely make any sense with your comments, this one is quite valid. The CIA or Special Ops should have infiltrated and killed Saddam a long time ago!

The problem was that one of our Presidents, Gerald Ford, issued an Executive Order prohibiting assassination of a foreign leader.

It was stupid to honor this edict.
Saddam should have been blown away to prevent the present situation.





04-01-03 08:31 AM
Doxa Riffjard:

"As I recall,nobody thought that Hitler was too bad until it was far too late. The world has seen the evilness of this man yet only the brave countries that promote democracy have the balls and the forsight to do anything about it!"

This is exactly the lesson from history that some of us are trying point out here. Stop Bush and save the peace before it is too late!

Okay, half of my remark is irony, half is not. I'm just bored those poor unjustified historical analogies - as I have argued before.

Doxa
04-01-03 08:38 AM
moonlight male we sell them missiles, we sall them tanks, ask for credit, even call up the bank .

etc
04-01-03 08:50 AM
Fiji Joe Damn cocksucker...now you're stealing my replies?...nearly verbatim...a definite sign of a whooped man...let that be a lesson to you pole-smoker...don't mess with Fiji...

04-01-03 09:30 AM
vampire
quote:
littleredrooster wrote:

Although you rarely make any sense with your comments, this one is quite valid. The CIA or Special Ops should have infiltrated and killed Saddam a long time ago!

The problem was that one of our Presidents, Gerald Ford, issued an Executive Order prohibiting assassination of a foreign leader.




In a country like yours, where killing your own leaders is a tradition, gotta be hard that executive order, heh?

And then that your friend, Fiji Doe, still wanna talk about patriotism? Hey, I said patriotism, no patriot, the missle...
04-01-03 09:36 AM
Mother baby Hey Vampire
you at it again?... better be kind to the USA or we'll have to take that World Cup Trophy away from you Brazilians in 2006. Keep it all shiny for us . Cause we're taking it away to USA in 06....Ronaldo won't be around to help you then. LOL.
04-01-03 09:44 AM
Doxa No motherbaby, Finland is going to do that, World Cup 2006 is ours! I suppose all the football experts here agree?

Doxa
04-01-03 09:52 AM
vampire And that is from The Washington Post, I think the
Fiji Doe favorite news


10 Dead After Vehicle Shelled at Checkpoint
� U.S. Plans New Security Measures


By William Branigin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 1, 2003; Page A01

NEAR KARBALA, Iraq, March 31 -- As an unidentified four-wheel-drive vehicle came barreling toward an intersection held by troops of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division, Capt. Ronny Johnson grew increasingly alarmed. From his position at the intersection, he was heard radioing to one of his forward platoons of M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles to alert it to what he described as a potential threat.

"Fire a warning shot," he ordered as the vehicle kept coming. Then, with increasing urgency, he told the platoon to shoot a 7.62mm machine-gun round into its radiator. "Stop [messing] around!" Johnson yelled into the company radio network when he still saw no action being taken. Finally, he shouted at the top of his voice, "Stop him, Red 1, stop him!"

That order was immediately followed by the loud reports of 25mm cannon fire from one or more of the platoon's Bradleys. About half a dozen shots were heard in all.

"Cease fire!" Johnson yelled over the radio. Then, as he peered into his binoculars from the intersection on Highway 9, he roared at the platoon leader, "You just [expletive] killed a family because you didn't fire a warning shot soon enough!"

(...)
� 2003 The Washington Post Company
04-01-03 09:54 AM
Mother baby
quote:
Doxa wrote:
No motherbaby, Finland is going to do that, World Cup 2006 is ours! I suppose all the football experts here agree?
Doxa



Naww, Our USA women could take care of the Finns.
04-01-03 10:13 AM
Doxa "Naww, Our USA women could take care of the Finns."

Hey Mother babe, that one went too far.. you want war? (here that smiling face...) I could take care of the USA women, one by one. Or Mick Jagger could (If he already haven�t).

Doxa
04-01-03 10:17 AM
Mother baby
quote:
Doxa wrote:
I could take care of the USA women, one by one. Or Mick Jagger could (If he already haven�t).
Doxa



No, No, you got that one wrong, not Mick Jagger...it was Bill Clinton who got to go into the locker room.
04-01-03 10:32 AM
Doxa "No, No, you got that one wrong, not Mick Jagger...it was Bill Clinton who got to go into the locker room."

Right, maybe there is no room for any Mick Jagger, the master himself is already over there. Too many cooks?

And now, back to the war issue... (more smiling faces!)

Doxa
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