quote:sirmoonie wrote:
There is no way anyone with this kind of baggage can be elected President. If the Democratic nomination process started over, Obam wouldn't come close to Bill Clinton's wife. He'd be down there with the guys who dropped out months ago.
The timing of this is interesting. It couldn't have been Bill Clinton's wife, because it comes too late for her. It certainly isn't John McCain because he is only interested in advancing true conservative issues, and has little or no interest in what his opponents do outside of that. If you look closely, it was clearly the neo-Zionists who feared being shut out of making important foreign policy decisions for Israel if Obam were to win.
In any case, Obam is biffed. The vast white wing conspiracy doesn't want to hear about this stuff anymore.
Newsmax wrote on this back in September of last year...maybe even earlier...I don't quite remember...It was quashed by the heavy race cards Obama was throwing...so that was enough for Hillary to leave it be
17th March 2008 11:08 AM
Fiji Joe
Shame on you Barack Obama...
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Contrary to Senator Barack Obama’s claim that he never heard his pastor Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. preach hatred of America, Obama was in the pews last July 22 when the minister blamed the “white arrogance” of America’s Caucasian majority for the world’s suffering, especially the oppression of blacks.
Senator Obama has sought to separate himself from his pastor’s incendiary remarks, issuing a statement Friday rejecting them as “inflammatory and appalling” but failing to renounce Wright himself for his venomous and paranoid denunciations of America.
In his press release, Obama claimed, “The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity [United Church of Christ] or heard him utter in private conversation.”
Appearing on cable news shows this past weekend, Obama claimed when he saw recent videos that have Wright making such comments as “God damn America,” he was “shocked.” Obama implied that the reverend had not used such derogatory language in any of the church services Obama attended over the past two decades.
If Obama’s claims are true that he was completely unaware that Wright’s trademark preaching style at the Trinity United Church of Christ has targeted “white” America and Israel, he would have been one of the few people in Chicago to be so uninformed. Wright’s reputation for spewing hate is well known.
In fact, Obama was present in the South Side Chicago church on July 22 last year when Jim Davis, a freelance correspondent for Newsmax, attended services along with Obama. [See: ”Obama’s Church: Cauldron of Division.”]
In his sermon that day, Wright tore into America, referring to the “United States of White America” and lacing his sermon with expletives as Obama listened. Hearing Wright’s attacks on his own country, Obama had the opportunity to walk out, but Davis said the senator sat in his pew and nodded in agreement.
Addressing the Iraq war, Wright thundered, “Young African-American men” were “dying for nothing.” The “illegal war,” he shouted, was “based on Bush’s lies” and is being “fought for oil money.”
Obama’s most famous celebrity backer, Oprah Winfrey began attending Wright’s church in 1984. Last year, Newsmax magazine reported that Winfrey abruptly stopped attending years ago, and suggested that she did so to distance herself from Wright’s inflammatory rhetoric. She soon found herself a target of Wright, who excoriated her for having broken with “traditional faith.”
The Reverend Wright’s anti-white theology that Senator Obama expressed surprise over is evident on the church’s website. The site says the congregation subscribes to what it calls the Black Value System, which is described as a disavowal of “our racist competitive society” and the pursuit of “middle-classness.” That is defined as a way for American society to “snare” blacks rather than “killing them off directly” or “placing them in concentration camps,” just as the country structures “an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.”
“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01,” Wright wrote in the church-affiliated magazine Trumpet four years after the attacks. “White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.”
The Relationship Unravels
Senator Obama now is attempting to minimize his long and close relationship with the controversial minister.
On Friday, John McCain’s campaign distributed a Wall Street Journal op-ed “Obama and the Minister” written under my byline based on my reporting for Newsmax going back to early January of this year.
The op-ed included details of a sermon Wright gave at Howard University blaming America for starting the AIDS virus, training professional killers, importing drugs, shamelessly supporting Israel, and creating a racist society that would never elect a black man as president. [See: “Obama’s Minister’s Hatred of America.”]
Obama’s campaign quickly responded to the Wall Street Journal op-ed, posting a statement on the Huffington Post. In his statement, Obama acknowledged that some of Wright’s statements have been “inflammatory and appalling.”
Saying he strongly condemns Wright’s comments, Obama continued, “I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it’s on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.” [emphasis added]
Again, Obama moved to narrowly distance himself from specific comments Wright had made, while still praising his minister in recent interviews for leading him to Jesus and preaching a “social gospel.”
Obama went on to claim that he first learned about Wright’s controversial statements when he began his presidential campaign. But this assertion conflicts with the fact that just before Obama’s nationally televised campaign kickoff rally on Feb. 10, 2007, the candidate disinvited Wright from giving the public invocation.
At the time, Wright explained: “When [Obama’s] enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli” to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, “a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.”
According to Wright, Obama then told him, “'You can get kind of rough in the sermons, so what we’ve decided is that it’s best for you not to be out there in public.'” Still, Obama and his family prayed privately with Wright just before the presidential announcement.
Apparently Obama never foresaw Wright’s sermons making national television or becoming a sensation on YouTube. But lending graphic detail to the saga, ABC News and other networks began running a 2003 sermon in which Wright said, “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible, for killing innocent people ... God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.” [Click Here to see video]
Obama has described Wright as a sounding board and mentor. Wright is one of the first people Obama thanked after his election to the Senate in 2004. Obama consulted Wright before deciding to run for president. The title of Obama’s bestseller “The Audacity of Hope” comes from one of Wright’s sermons. Obama’s “Yes We Can!” slogan is one of Wright’s exhortations.
Apologists for Wright have said that what he says is normal in black churches, and many blacks claim such preaching cannot be understood by whites.
“If you’re black, it’s hard to say what you truly think and not upset white people,” the New York Times quoted James Cone as saying. Cone is a professor at Union Theological Seminary and the father of what is known as black liberation theology.
But Juan Williams, a Fox News commentator and author of “Enough: The Phony Leaders, Dead-End Movements, and Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America,” tells Newsmax that Wright’s sermons reflect “the victim mindset that is so self-defeating in the black community and one that is played on by weak black leadership that chooses to have black people identified as victims rather than inspiring them as people who have overcome. In posing as victims, they say the most prejudiced and vicious things, not only about whites but about America. They call it theology. In fact, it’s nothing but bigotry.”
In failing to condemn Wright himself and claiming that he was unaware of the preacher’s hate-filled speech, Obama is continuing a longstanding pattern.
Obama often refers to Wright as being "like an old uncle, who sometimes says things I don't agree with." Wright is not Obama’s “uncle” — a person born into a blood relationship — but a man he has cultivated for decades as a close friend, mentor and adviser.
After Newsmax broke the story on Jan. 14 that Wright’s church gave an award to Louis Farrakhan in December for lifetime achievement, Obama again sought to denounce his minister’s action without criticizing Wright himself.
Like Wright, Farrakhan has repeatedly made hate-filled statements targeting Jews (calling Judaism a “gutter religion”), whites, and America. He has called whites “blue-eyed devils” and the “anti-Christ.” He has described Jews as “bloodsuckers” who control the government, the media, and some black organizations.
After the Newsmax story, Obama issued a statement purportedly addressing the issue.
"I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan," Obama said.
Again, Obama was careful not to condemn Farrakhan himself or Wright who had spoken adoringly of Farrakhan and put their church behind the award to the controversial Nation of Islam leader.
“When Minister Farrakhan speaks, black America listens,” Trumpet quoted Wright as saying. “His depth on analysis [sic] when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding and eye-opening. He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest.”
Obama adroitly said, “I assume that Trumpet magazine made its own decision to honor Farrakhan based on his efforts to rehabilitate ex-offenders, but it is not a decision with which I agree.”
In fact, Trumpet is published by Wright’s church using the church’s offices. Wright’s daughters serve as publisher and executive editor.
Having gotten away with sidestepping Wright’s adoring comments about Farrakhan, Obama told Jewish leaders flatly in Cleveland on Jan. 24 that the award was because of Farrakhan’s work with ex-offenders. To date, no news outlet has pointed out that Obama’s claim is false.
Obama went on to explain away Wright’s anti-Zionist statements as being rooted in his anger over the Jewish state’s support for South Africa under its previous policy of apartheid. As with his claim that the award to Farrakhan was made because of his work with ex-offenders, Obama made that up. Wright’s statements denouncing Israel have not been qualified in any way.
On Fox News’ Hannity & Colmes on Friday, Obama said he would have quit the church if he had “repeatedly” been present when Wright made inflammatory statements. He was not asked why he did not quit the church when it gave an award to Farrakhan.
Having considered Wright a friend and mentor for two decades, Obama now often mentions that his pastor recently retired. Wright suggested to the New York Times last year that he and Obama might have to do something of a distancing act in the run up to the election.
"If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me," Wright was quoted by The New York Times. "I said it to Barack personally, and he said, ‘Yeah, that might have to happen.'"
Ronald Kessler is chief Washington correspondent of Newsmax.com. View his previous reports and get his dispatches sent to you free via e-mail. Go here now.
The guy who was "above it all"???
The "breath of fresh air" who could bridge all gaps??
"Yes we Can"
Can what????
I'm admittedly jaded.
I feel a bit sorry for the youth who bought into this liar.
Credibility GONE!
LJ.
17th March 2008 12:03 PM
Fiji Joe
Obama thinks we're Canadians...some of you are
Obama lied, relations with Canada died
posted Monday, 3 March 2008
So let me see if I've got this straight: Sen. Obama and Sen. Clinton, campaigning in Ohio, both denounced free trade, and Obama promised the adoring, fainting throngs that when he becomes President, he'll scrap NAFTA. Then, Canada's CTV network reported that Obama's campaign had previously contacted the Canadian government to assure them that the anti-NAFTA talk was just to fool the rubes.
The Obama campaign called the CTV story a lie and a smear. So CTV named names — Austan Goolsbee, Obama's chief economic advisor, and the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago — and confirmed the story with a "high level source" in the Canadian government.
Well, it turned out that one of the consular staff who attended the meeting with Goolsbee took notes. The Canadian government, apparently more than a little annoyed by the Obama campaign, has widely circulated his memo, which confirmed the CTV account of the meeting.
The Obama campaign, in a hole and still digging, insists that the Canadians are either stupid or liars.
Won't it be great when Obama restores respect and affection for America throughout the world?
No word yet on what the rubes in Ohio think about this cynical pandering.
quote:Riffhard wrote:
In any real American's view he would be toast because of this, but go check out the idiots over at DU. They actually think that this minister is telling it like it is! LOL! The far left liberals will give this guy a complete pass. I mean it's not like he's a Mormon or an Evangelical after all! The rationalization of the liberal mindset is stunning in it's idiocy. Blame whitey. Blame Republicans. Blame America. Plus never, and I mean never ever, accept responsibility for one's own actions. Pretty much sums it up. I mean just take a look at this idiot minister, and the mayor of Detroit.
The Democrat Party is fucked! McRINO is a lock.
Riffy
I was kinda hoping this Minister Obama stuff would be held in abeyance until June or whenever Cankles steps aside. This is better general election stuff. I don't have time today but I can't wait to read that DU stuff tonight. Those people = CRAZY!
17th March 2008 01:16 PM
CrissCrossMind
Obama is a first class slime ball Politician ... just like all the rest ... his strength maybe his hatred of the whities ... which he works to keep under wraps ... but will bring us all together ... if we had a White pastor or whatever spitting out hate filled mantra like his "mentor" what would Omama think ... nothing new hey honky ... this guy is worse cause he claims to be different ... CCM
17th March 2008 05:49 PM
pdog
17th March 2008 06:53 PM
the good
Hillary isn't done. I don't care what the math says. If Obama is viewed as unelectable, there will be a push for the super delegates to jump ship. And it will get very ugly.
17th March 2008 07:31 PM
texile
quote:Starbuck wrote:
however, the views of a candidate's preacher, no matter how whacked they are, do not disqualify him or her from being president...if they do, perhaps we should start interrogating clinton's and mccain's clergy as well. why stop there? what are the political leanings of their mothers in law, prom dates and mailmen?
of course this guy is a fruitcake...nobody would deny that. but show me one instance where obama has subscribed to the same beliefs. 'sides, barack is as white as any of the rest of us. okay, maybe not as white as pug, but pretty much everyone else.
amen...
there is nothing in obama's words, actions or attitudes that suggests any real connection to this pastor's line of thought.
you look at a candidate for what THEY represent and inspire..look at the history, personal bio, do the math and make your decision.
when the press finally gets something on obama that sticks - it's still not entirely about him.
i had a favorite teacher from high school until one day he revealed himself to be slightly bigoted....
what does that say about me?
i can assure you not a damn thing.
but you probably wouldn't vote for me.
17th March 2008 07:36 PM
Riffhard
I never heard my preacher talk like this! Yeah right, Barack! Sure. We believe ya. I mean it's certainly plausible that in a twenty year membership with this church that you never heard the wrong Reverand Wright spew his rascist viterol. We believe ya!
Nice shades! You know where to put the cork!
Riffy
17th March 2008 08:01 PM
texile
quote:PartyDoll MEG wrote:
Don't get me started on religion..
Obama is not responsible for what his minister preaches..he is responsible for himself and how he lives his life. It would be like saying that the parishoners of St Joseph's are responsible for their pedophile priests.
You don't know if Obama accepted "Black Liberation." You know he finds his minister an "inspiration." People inspire you in different ways about different things..Like the Beatles inspire Bucky...who the hell knows. Did you even read Obama's book. I haven't so I can't even comment on that.
I am not gonna "tar and feather" Obama over this issue. Obviously, he needs to address it and he has already done so. We need to listen and read and use our common sense when we are confronted with the "fear tactics" used by the opposition (could be the Hiliary camp too ya know). And I will continue to use this philosophy for both presidential candidates. And lets face it Feej..we will have to sift through lots of shit no matter who the candidates end up being.
Ok..I'm done ..no more politics
I hate politics
that's the greatest post until the next political bombshell.
17th March 2008 08:02 PM
texile
quote:PartyDoll MEG wrote:
Don't get me started on religion..
Obama is not responsible for what his minister preaches..he is responsible for himself and how he lives his life. It would be like saying that the parishoners of St Joseph's are responsible for their pedophile priests.
You don't know if Obama accepted "Black Liberation." You know he finds his minister an "inspiration." People inspire you in different ways about different things..Like the Beatles inspire Bucky...who the hell knows. Did you even read Obama's book. I haven't so I can't even comment on that.
I am not gonna "tar and feather" Obama over this issue. Obviously, he needs to address it and he has already done so. We need to listen and read and use our common sense when we are confronted with the "fear tactics" used by the opposition (could be the Hiliary camp too ya know). And I will continue to use this philosophy for both presidential candidates. And lets face it Feej..we will have to sift through lots of shit no matter who the candidates end up being.
Ok..I'm done ..no more politics
I hate politics
that's the greatest post until the next political bombshell.
17th March 2008 08:21 PM
pdog
quote:Riffhard wrote:
I never heard my preacher talk like this! Yeah right, Barack! Sure. We believe ya. I mean it's certainly plausible that in a twenty year membership with this church that you never heard the wrong Reverand Wright spew his rascist viterol. We believe ya!
Nice shades! You know where to put the cork!
Riffy
You go to church?
17th March 2008 08:38 PM
Riffhard
The thing that gets me is that nobody on from the liberal side of the argument can answer one question here with a straight face.
To that end I will ask the question again. Does it show good judgement for a man that is running on the platform of "bringing the country together" to attend a church for twenty years where the preacher is a blatant racist and anti-semite? Does that show good judgement? Would he be so easily forgiven had he been a white Republican and attended a church that spewed anti-black racism?
Why do liberals always seem to have a problem with the "judgement" question?! I remember the way liberals tried in vain to defend Bill Clinton over the Lewinsky scandal. Liberals always fell back on the old "it's a personal matter" crap. No it wasn't!!! Not once did liberals ever want to address the fact that the President of the United States was getting blown by a 21 year old intern while his wife was upstairs! It's showed piss poor judgement, and absolutly no moral compass! That matters to me! I expect, no demand, that my President have a modicum of respect for the office of President!
I demand that the President shows enough judgement to not attend a church where the preacher spews completely false accusations about his own country, and shows time and time again that he is nothing more than a straight up racist!
It's about judgement for God's sake!
Obama has shown none in this regard!
Riffy
17th March 2008 08:59 PM
AlexKx
Why that would be JUDEGEMENTAL! You are American! Don't you know you are not suppose to judge other people?! You are suppose to be wish-washy on things and not really sure about anything that would require an opinion. This would prove that you are not one sided which God knows is FORBIDDEN. You might logically conclude that the REPUBLICANS are right most of the time if not at least close to all of it. And THAT is unforgivable.
[Edited by AlexKx]
17th March 2008 09:00 PM
robpop
quote:Fiji Joe wrote:
A place of peace...unless you're white, a woman, or American...
Witness...the inspiration for "The Audacity of Hope"
CHeck this you guys will love the truth. The truth hurts.
http://smouch.net/lol/
17th March 2008 09:20 PM
Riffhard
quote:robpop wrote:
CHeck this you guys will love the truth. The truth hurts.
http://smouch.net/lol/
Not cool!!
Riffy
17th March 2008 09:40 PM
pdog
quote:Riffhard wrote:
The thing that gets me is that nobody on from the liberal side of the argument can answer one question here with a straight face.
To that end I will ask the question again. Does it show good judgement for a man that is running on the platform of "bringing the country together" to attend a church for twenty years where the preacher is a blatant racist and anti-semite? Does that show good judgement? Would he be so easily forgiven had he been a white Republican and attended a church that spewed anti-black racism?
Why do liberals always seem to have a problem with the "judgement" question?! I remember the way liberals tried in vain to defend Bill Clinton over the Lewinsky scandal. Liberals always fell back on the old "it's a personal matter" crap. No it wasn't!!! Not once did liberals ever want to address the fact that the President of the United States was getting blown by a 21 year old intern while his wife was upstairs! It's showed piss poor judgement, and absolutly no moral compass! That matters to me! I expect, no demand, that my President have a modicum of respect for the office of President!
I demand that the President shows enough judgement to not attend a church where the preacher spews completely false accusations about his own country, and shows time and time again that he is nothing more than a straight up racist!
It's about judgement for God's sake!
Obama has shown none in this regard!
Riffy
I'm concerned about people who go to church... and people who are concerned about what is going on in the church.
And Riffy, Reagan supported the Bob Jones policy, Bush is the one who spoke there, not to long ago.
So, to try and answer your question. I'm just as disturbed by Reagan supporting a ban on inter-racila couples as much as the jew hating anti-white preacher. I find both equally disturbing. In fact. I think both go hand in hand. There's been an anit- Black under current that is deeply rooted in slavery and the aftermath of slavery. And a blowback of white hatred that stems from things like dead niggers hanging from trees and little kids raped and killed and murderers set free. For someone to be all upitty about some black preacher, you need to also admit how much blacks have suffered, or else it's all bullshit.
I have gotten jobs b/c i was white. I was told that, I know alot of racists, shit I can be one too. I have no problem admitting it. It's my right. I have no problem teling people how I feel, and I give that right to this preacher. I think white people need to start acting like they have some hate and prejudice, before we turn into a bunch of pussies!
17th March 2008 09:56 PM
Riffhard
Ummmm,let's talk about judgement again. Shall we? Let's meet some of Obama's other acquaintances okay?
Anyone ready to talk about Obama's judgement yet?
I mean if Reverand Wright doesn't call into question Barack's judgement then perhaps William Ayers will. Or perhaps Tony Rezko.
It's over. He's toast.
Riffy
17th March 2008 10:20 PM
AlexKx
Yes, but time and time again all I have seen is a pass for Obama-nation. I just don't think the Republicans will have the gonads to run this information like they should. It would be considered "ungentlemanly" in what is suppose to be a peaceful (perhaps graceful) discord amongst individuals who are not suppose to be "devisive" or too negative.
17th March 2008 11:04 PM
Riffhard
quote:AlexKx wrote:
Yes, but time and time again all I have seen is a pass for Obama-nation. I just don't think the Republicans will have the gonads to run this information like they should. It would be considered "ungentlemanly" in what is suppose to be a peaceful (perhaps graceful) discord amongst individuals who are not suppose to be "devisive" or too negative.
LOL! You may be right about that. McCain has shown no gumption to get down in the mud with the Dems. However, that won't matter because you'd better know that Hillary's surrogates will do all the dirty work for him. This story is not going to go away. Obama has already lost over 10 points on the most recent Ramussen pol. He's toast.
That leaves Hillary. Yet she can't win the nomination without pissing off a whole hell of a lot of Obama supporters. Plus she'll never win in the general. This whole sorid story is going to destroy the Democrat Party for years to come. The convention is going to make Chicago in 1968 look like a walk in the park. Just wait. This is going to be horrible for the Democrats, and many of them already know it.
Obama had it all locked up, and this story dropped like a bomb. It kills his chances, but it destroys the Dem party in the short run. This is what happens when a political party does not thoroughly vet their candidates. The crazy thing is that all of these recent revelations about Obama's inner circle has been known for years and the media did not report any of it. Yet they knew it. Strange, huh? I wonder why that is? LOL!
Riffy
18th March 2008 01:22 AM
Brainbell Jangler
Barack is handling this scurrilous guilt-by-association campaign in a statesmanlike manner. This is just the opportunity he needed to prove that he can handle the right wing attack machine gracefully and intelligently. It has also opened a much needed discussion of the gap between black and white perceptions of America as well as the transcendence of that gap, especially among the young.
18th March 2008 04:15 AM
MikeyC613
obama isn't done yet
18th March 2008 04:22 AM
pdog
I haven't seen this much right wing finger ppinting since Bill clinton was about to become president, and for the next 8 years, it never ended. I hope the economy gets better, at least if captain hate a whitey get elected!
18th March 2008 06:01 AM
Monster
quote:Nasty Habits wrote:
since this is the most interesting political thread I've come across on the board since the glory days of Sweet Neocon, here I am, engaged.
quote:pdog wrote:
I haven't seen this much right wing finger ppinting since Bill clinton was about to become president, and for the next 8 years, it never ended. I hope the economy gets better, at least if captain hate a whitey get elected!
That's Captain Hate-A-Whitey to you! Lower casing him like that. Racist.
18th March 2008 09:12 AM
Factory Girl
quote:Nasty Habits wrote:
That's Captain Hate-A-Whitey to you! Lower casing him like that. Racist.
Commander-In-Chief of the Dreaded Caucasians.
Has the Pastor-Khan made any speeches about other folks that live in US? Does Pastor-Khan Spread his gospel equally? Is he an Equal Oppy Hater?
18th March 2008 09:28 AM
Nasty Habits
quote:Factory Girl wrote:
Commander-In-Chief of the Dreaded Caucasians.
Has the Pastor-Khan made any speeches about other folks that live in US? Does Pastor-Khan Spread his gospel equally? Is he an Equal Oppy Hater?
I'm pretty sure they have something against the Koreans, too.
18th March 2008 09:35 AM
glencar
quote:Brainbell Jangler wrote:
Barack is handling this scurrilous guilt-by-association campaign in a statesmanlike manner. This is just the opportunity he needed to prove that he can handle the right wing attack machine gracefully and intelligently. It has also opened a much needed discussion of the gap between black and white perceptions of America as well as the transcendence of that gap, especially among the young.
Word on the street is that this stuff was put out there by the Clintoon Hate Machine. If he had stuck with being "Barry Obama" he might have been able to ride this out. As of now, it's 2 old white people mano a mano in November. Bye Barry!
18th March 2008 09:52 AM
nankerphelge
Only the most deluded of liberals could find a way to blame this on the Republicans.
The "guilt by association" label is particularly ironic because here it is not so much that anyone thinks that Obama thinks the same way as Wright (which he may or may not).
They key is, Obama has ridden this wave of popularity based upon the notion that he can bring both sides together and that he is qualified to be President.
By associating with Wright, he proves that he has aligned himself for years with a truly detestable person, and does not have the presence of mind to recognize that fact until it smacks him in the face.
Obama was foolish and liberals that continue to apologize for him are intellectually dishonest.
[Edited by nankerphelge]
