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20th March 2008 10:51 AM
sirmoonie My spiritual advisor told me to get drunk today. He's an inspirational man of god (MOG), and I can always disassociate the hangover later, right?
20th March 2008 11:01 AM
Nasty Habits
quote:
Riffhard wrote:


Ding motherfuucking ding!!! I could not have said that any better! I know all about this "black experience" as I come from Atlanta and have spoken with plenty of brothers about it. You are dead right. This is the point that Bill Cosby has been so eloquently saying over and over agin. What kind of reception did his speeches get? He was slammed by every race hustler in the business! And make no mistake, it is a business. This explains why Jesse and good ol' Al never ever slam their own racists. Jesse was asked what he thought about the good Rev Wright's comments. He response? "No comment." LOL! Typical.


I fear that just by bringing this up though Feej you have opened yourself up to unwarrented accusations of racism. Funny how that works, huh?


Riffy



By returning to a thread you declared yourself done with you risk the scorn and ridicule of your fellow posters. What, have you no more integrity than . . . a Starbuck?!?!?

Riffhard's Credibility = GONE!

20th March 2008 11:33 AM
Starbuck
quote:
By returning to a thread you declared yourself done with you risk the scorn and ridicule of your fellow posters. What, have you no more integrity than . . . a Starbuck?!?!?

Riffhard's Credibility = GONE!


this hurts.

and the only thing that will console me is a sweet tambourine...the little circles vibrating and giggling as i pound out the downbeat on 4/4 time.

Nasty..."You wanna keep being a dickhead, or do you want to stop it now?"
[Edited by Starbuck]
20th March 2008 11:36 AM
Nasty Habits Bucky?


20th March 2008 11:37 AM
lotsajizz Under the rainbow that is Hillary, all can come together--olive branch accepted and reciprocated....
20th March 2008 11:39 AM
Starbuck nasty?

20th March 2008 11:41 AM
Nasty Habits jizzy?


20th March 2008 11:43 AM
Fiji Joe The audacity of hypocrisy...the audacity of 20 years of hypocrisy

Obama Defends Rev. Wright, Blasts Imus

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:47 AM

It took Barack Obama more than a year to repudiate his former pastor's racially charged anti-American tirades, but when it came to denouncing Don Imus for his racial slurs against the Rutgers girls basketball team, it took Obama only a week to demand the shock jock be fired, Fox News notes.


In a major speech Tuesday, Obama condemned the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's shocking verbal assaults against the U.S. dating back to 2001.

But in April of last year, Obama was quick to demand Imus' ouster for making a racially insensitive remark.

“There’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude,” Obama told ABC News in an April 11 interview demanding Imus' resignation.

Obama told ABC in the interview he would never appear again on Imus’ show after Imus set off a firestorm of outrage when he called members of the women’s basketball team at Rutgers University “nappy-headed hos” on his popular morning talk show.

“He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama raged then. “He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America.”


Obama has downplayed Wright for Wright's insensitive remarks, saying he has done good work with the poor and AIDS victims. Yet Obama did not afford the same respect to Imus, who has devoted considerable energy to helping children with cancer, wounded war veterans, and others.


Obama's pastor has blamed the government for HIV, cast the country as institutionally racist, and said God should damn the United States.


But Obama, who Fox recalled has had a 20-year relationship with Wright, claimed in his speech Tuesday that he had no idea Wright had ever expressed such incendiary remarks.

When some of Wright’s remarks were publicized last year, Obama rescinded an invitation for Wright to speak at his Feb. 10, 2007, presidential announcement, but had failed to fully address the matter until Tuesday's speech.
20th March 2008 11:47 AM
Nasty Habits
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:

“He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama raged then. “He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America.”






20th March 2008 11:50 AM
Fiji Joe Yes...Hillary...she is the only one that has not practiced a religion of separation for the last 20 years...and best I can tell, she's not a friggin' retard

There is one lingering question, however...has she ever been "ridin dirty"?...I think she'll have real trouble getting the black vote...this does not look good for her

20th March 2008 11:51 AM
Fiji Joe And the Trinity lifetime achievement award goes to....the envelope please

20th March 2008 11:56 AM
Fiji Joe
quote:
Nasty Habits wrote:







But no concern from Obama when he voluntarily chose to take his daughters to hear pastor Wright...I wonder if they were there when Farrakhan was given the lifetime achievement award
20th March 2008 12:00 PM
LadyJane
quote:
Fiji Joe wrote:
Yes...Hillary...she is the only one that has not practiced a religion of separation for the last 20 years...and best I can tell, she's not a friggin' retard





I do believe we have a consensus of political opinions between LJ, Jizzy and Feej.

I think I see the Five Horseman approaching my window!!

LJ.
20th March 2008 12:00 PM
Nasty Habits One would hope you would realize I was conceding your point.

20th March 2008 12:04 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:
Nasty Habits wrote:
One would hope you would realize I was conceding your point.





It did occur to me...but in this thread, with all the side-stepping going on, it was very hard for me to tell...so I chose just to re-state the point...there are rules that speak to the usage of the "Oh Snap" reply...I'm not entirely sure you were in compliance with those rules...it's open for debate


[Edited by Fiji Joe]
20th March 2008 12:05 PM
Nasty Habits Red X, FOOL!

But I realized that I may have violated Oh Snap! etiquette (but no one can resist the Biz when he's muggin' you in the face) which is why I bothered to clarify in the first place.

I thought it was a rather good move when you posted it as a link earlier, but knowing your game, and knowing you would post the full text later, I chose to wait to give you props for a post well-played.



[Edited by Nasty Habits]
20th March 2008 12:14 PM
Fiji Joe I wouldn't concede my "oh snap" point just yet...I readily admit, that flow chart is a bit beyond my mental capabilites and certainly open to interpretation...but one thing I do know...when one wishes to use the "damn!" post...there is no grey...there is right...and there is wrong

For example...

Bucky's is so white, he can't even jump to a conclusion

Response:


[Edited by Fiji Joe]
20th March 2008 12:23 PM
Nasty Habits On the subject of appropriate SNAP gestures - I guess the question is - is the person who got told got to be present on the message board or can the telling be just sort of a general statement of whoopass? Is Oh Snap one to one personal? If I am going back onto active duty (and I'm not sayin') I need to be in the know.
20th March 2008 12:34 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:
Nasty Habits wrote:

Is Oh Snap one to one personal?




Absolutely not!...In fact, IMO, it's meant to be enjoyed in the collective, at the expense of the individual who deserved to be "oh snap"ed

Example:

Bucky is so white, he pisses milk and shits chalk...

Response:


[Edited by Fiji Joe]
20th March 2008 12:34 PM
Starbuck when 500 comes, i shall miss this thread!

it has "brought the warring factions together" (sean, LJ)!

it has informed us that feej now has a "cankles for prez" sign in his front yard!

the only thing that is left to be resloved is, nasty...tube or crew?


20th March 2008 12:43 PM
Starbuck feej is so redneck, his dell is up on blocks.
20th March 2008 12:58 PM
steel driving hammer Spoken like a TRUE Brother...

20th March 2008 01:27 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:
Starbuck wrote:
when 500 comes, i shall miss this thread!




If that's not a call for a Part 2, I don't know what is...you got little Buddy
20th March 2008 01:42 PM
Fiji Joe $22,500...That's how much Obama gave to the hatemonger Wright in 2006...He's "ridin' dirty" y'all...he's "ridin' dirty"

Oh...I didn't know either...I had to look it up

"ridin dirty":

Having sex once you're good and rank after going several days without showering. The lack of bathing is usually due to repeatedly having sex.

"My girlfriend was in town for a week. We didn't see the light of day and by day five we were really ridin dirty."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ridin+dirty&page=2
20th March 2008 01:48 PM
Riffhard And then there's this. The hits just keep on coming.



Obama's Judgement? Don't question it. Accept your "white guilt" and blindly follow this man over the cliff you racist.




Riffy
20th March 2008 01:50 PM
Fiji Joe "One 18-year-old white girl from Alabama (Natalie Holloway) gets drunk on a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and 'gives it up' while in a foreign country, and that stays in the news for months!...Maybe I am missing something!"

Rev. Jeremiah Wright

---------

"Despite the canceled invocation, Mr. Wright prayed with the Obama family just before his presidential announcement. Asked later about the incident, the Obama campaign said in a statement, 'Senator Obama is proud of his pastor and his church.' "



20th March 2008 01:56 PM
Fiji Joe
quote:
Riffhard wrote:
And then there's this. The hits just keep on coming.

Obama's Judgement? Don't question it. Accept your "white guilt" and blindly follow this man over the cliff you racist.

Riffy



Oh...that will lead off Part 2 very nicely...You have to ask...why would a church print this in its bulletin?...Well you might have to ask...but I don't...Because I know what Black Liberation Tehology is about...That's Obama's religion in case you're wondering why I keep talking about it...But I do have to ask the question...Why would a sitting US Senator attend such a church for 20 years and claim the leader of that church as his mentor?

ELECTION 2008
Obama church published
Hamas terror manifesto
Compares charter calling for murder
of Jews to Declaration of Independence

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: March 20, 2008
12:45 pm Eastern


By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzook

JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter – which calls for the murder of Jews – to America's Declaration of Independence.

The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week.

The revelation follows a recent WND article quoting Israeli security officials who expressed "concern" about Robert Malley, an adviser to Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.

In his July 22, 2007, church bulletin, Wright reprinted an article by Mousa Abu Marzook, identified in the newsletter as a "deputy of the political bureau of Hamas." A photo image of the newsletter was captured and posted today by the business blog BizzyBlog. The Hamas piece was first published by the Los Angeles Times, garnering the newspaper much criticism.

According to senior Israeli security officials, Marzook, who resides in Syria alongside Hamas chieftain Khaled Meshaal, is considered the "brains" behind Hamas, designing much of the terror group's policies and ideology. Israel possesses what it says is a large volume of specific evidence that Marzook has been directly involved in calling for or planning scores of Hamas terrorist offensives, including deadly suicide bombings. He was also accused of attempting to set up a Hamas network in the U.S.

Marzook's original piece was titled, "Hamas' stand" but was re-titled "A Fresh View of the Palestinian Struggle" by Obama's church newsletter. The newsletter also referred to Hamas as the "Islamic Resistance Movement," and added in its introduction that Marzook was addressing Hamas' goals for "all of Palestine."

In the manifesto, Marzook refers to Hamas' "resistance" – the group's perpetuation of anti-Israel terrorism targeting civilians – as "legal resistance," which, he argues, is "explicitly supported by the Fourth Geneva Convention."

The Convention, which refers to the rights of people living under occupation, does not support suicide bombings or rocket attacks against civilian population centers, the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America noted.

Marzook refers to Hamas' official charter as "an essentially revolutionary document" and compares the violent creed to the Declaration of Independence, which, Marzook states, "simply did not countenance any such status for the 700,000 African slaves at that time."

Hamas' charter calls for the murder of Jews. Among its platforms is a statement that the "[resurrection] will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, and the rock and the tree will say: 'Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him!'"

In his piece, Marzook says Hamas only targets Israel and denies that Hamas' war is meant to be waged against the U.S., even though Hamas officials have threatened America, and Hamas' charter calls for Muslims to "pursue the cause of the Movement (Hamas), all over the globe."

Trinity Church did not respond to a phone message requesting comment.

Obama's campaign also did not reply to phone and e-mail requests today for comment.

Obama aide wants talks with terrorists

WND reported in January that Malley, an Obama foreign policy adviser, has penned numerous opinion articles, many of them co-written with a former adviser to the late Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, petitioning for dialogue with Hamas and blasting Israel for policies he says harm the Palestinian cause.

Malley also previously penned a well-circulated New York Review of Books piece largely blaming Israel for the collapse of the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations at Camp David in 2000 when Arafat turned down a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and eastern sections of Jerusalem and instead returned to the Middle East to launch an intifada, or terrorist campaign, against the Jewish state.

Malley's contentions have been strongly refuted by key participants at Camp David, including President Clinton, then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and primary U.S. envoy to the Middle East Dennis Ross, all of whom squarely blamed Arafat's refusal to make peace for the talks' failure.

In February 2006, after Hamas won a majority of seats in the Palestinian parliament and amid a U.S. and Israeli attempt to isolate the Hamas-run Palestinian Authority, Malley wrote an op-ed for the Baltimore Sun advocating international aid to the terror group's newly formed government.

"The Islamists (Hamas) ran on a campaign of effective government and promised to improve Palestinians' lives; they cannot do that if the international community turns its back," wrote Malley in a piece entitled, "Making the Best of Hamas' Victory."

Malley contended the election of Hamas expressed Palestinian "anger at years of humiliation and loss of self-respect because of Israeli settlement expansion, Arafat's imprisonment, Israel's incursions, Western lecturing and, most recently and tellingly, the threat of an aid cutoff in the event of an Islamist success."

Malley said the U.S. should not "discourage third-party unofficial contacts with [Hamas] in an attempt to moderate it."

In an op-ed in the Washington Post in January coauthored by Arafat adviser Hussein Agha, Malley – using what could be perceived as anti-Israel language – urged Israel's negotiating partner, Abbas, to reunite with Hamas.

"A renewed national compact and the return of Hamas to the political fold would upset Israel's strategy of perpetuating Palestinian geographic and political division," wrote Malley.

He further petitioned Israel to hold talks with Hamas.

"An arrangement between Israel and Hamas could advance both sides' interests," Malley wrote.

In numerous other op-eds, Malley advocated a policy of engagement with Hamas.
20th March 2008 02:02 PM
Fiji Joe I guess we know why he is so willing to sit down and talk with these terrorists as part of his foreign policy...it appears, at this point, at the very least, that he's spent a lot of time sitting down and talking with people who have spent a lot of time sitting down and talking with them already...

"Just words...just words"

20th March 2008 02:02 PM
Dan I guess the Republicans should be really thankful Mitt Romney didn't get the nomination.
20th March 2008 02:03 PM
Starbuck
quote:
ELECTION 2008
Obama church published
Hamas terror manifesto
Compares charter calling for murder
of Jews to Declaration of Independence

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: March 20, 2008
12:45 pm Eastern


By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzook

JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter – which calls for the murder of Jews – to America's Declaration of Independence.

The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week.

The revelation follows a recent WND article quoting Israeli security officials who expressed "concern" about Robert Malley, an adviser to Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.

In his July 22, 2007, church bulletin, Wright reprinted an article by Mousa Abu Marzook, identified in the newsletter as a "deputy of the political bureau of Hamas." A photo image of the newsletter was captured and posted today by the business blog BizzyBlog. The Hamas piece was first published by the Los Angeles Times, garnering the newspaper much criticism.

According to senior Israeli security officials, Marzook, who resides in Syria alongside Hamas chieftain Khaled Meshaal, is considered the "brains" behind Hamas, designing much of the terror group's policies and ideology. Israel possesses what it says is a large volume of specific evidence that Marzook has been directly involved in calling for or planning scores of Hamas terrorist offensives, including deadly suicide bombings. He was also accused of attempting to set up a Hamas network in the U.S.

Marzook's original piece was titled, "Hamas' stand" but was re-titled "A Fresh View of the Palestinian Struggle" by Obama's church newsletter. The newsletter also referred to Hamas as the "Islamic Resistance Movement," and added in its introduction that Marzook was addressing Hamas' goals for "all of Palestine."

In the manifesto, Marzook refers to Hamas' "resistance" – the group's perpetuation of anti-Israel terrorism targeting civilians – as "legal resistance," which, he argues, is "explicitly supported by the Fourth Geneva Convention."

The Convention, which refers to the rights of people living under occupation, does not support suicide bombings or rocket attacks against civilian population centers, the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America noted.

Marzook refers to Hamas' official charter as "an essentially revolutionary document" and compares the violent creed to the Declaration of Independence, which, Marzook states, "simply did not countenance any such status for the 700,000 African slaves at that time."

Hamas' charter calls for the murder of Jews. Among its platforms is a statement that the "[resurrection] will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, and the rock and the tree will say: 'Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him!'"

In his piece, Marzook says Hamas only targets Israel and denies that Hamas' war is meant to be waged against the U.S., even though Hamas officials have threatened America, and Hamas' charter calls for Muslims to "pursue the cause of the Movement (Hamas), all over the globe."

Trinity Church did not respond to a phone message requesting comment.

Obama's campaign also did not reply to phone and e-mail requests today for comment.

Obama aide wants talks with terrorists

WND reported in January that Malley, an Obama foreign policy adviser, has penned numerous opinion articles, many of them co-written with a former adviser to the late Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, petitioning for dialogue with Hamas and blasting Israel for policies he says harm the Palestinian cause.

Malley also previously penned a well-circulated New York Review of Books piece largely blaming Israel for the collapse of the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations at Camp David in 2000 when Arafat turned down a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and eastern sections of Jerusalem and instead returned to the Middle East to launch an intifada, or terrorist campaign, against the Jewish state.

Malley's contentions have been strongly refuted by key participants at Camp David, including President Clinton, then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and primary U.S. envoy to the Middle East Dennis Ross, all of whom squarely blamed Arafat's refusal to make peace for the talks' failure.

In February 2006, after Hamas won a majority of seats in the Palestinian parliament and amid a U.S. and Israeli attempt to isolate the Hamas-run Palestinian Authority, Malley wrote an op-ed for the Baltimore Sun advocating international aid to the terror group's newly formed government.

"The Islamists (Hamas) ran on a campaign of effective government and promised to improve Palestinians' lives; they cannot do that if the international community turns its back," wrote Malley in a piece entitled, "Making the Best of Hamas' Victory."

Malley contended the election of Hamas expressed Palestinian "anger at years of humiliation and loss of self-respect because of Israeli settlement expansion, Arafat's imprisonment, Israel's incursions, Western lecturing and, most recently and tellingly, the threat of an aid cutoff in the event of an Islamist success."

Malley said the U.S. should not "discourage third-party unofficial contacts with [Hamas] in an attempt to moderate it."

In an op-ed in the Washington Post in January coauthored by Arafat adviser Hussein Agha, Malley – using what could be perceived as anti-Israel language – urged Israel's negotiating partner, Abbas, to reunite with Hamas.

"A renewed national compact and the return of Hamas to the political fold would upset Israel's strategy of perpetuating Palestinian geographic and political division," wrote Malley.

He further petitioned Israel to hold talks with Hamas.

"An arrangement between Israel and Hamas could advance both sides' interests," Malley wrote.

In numerous other op-eds, Malley advocated a policy of engagement with Hamas.




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