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Topic: You can't make this shit up Return to archive
03-15-03 08:46 PM
nankerphelge From Edward Helmore of the Guardian:

An obscure Jewish sect in New York has been gripped in awe by what it believes to be a mystical visitation by a 20lb carp that was heard shouting in Hebrew, in what many Jews worldwide are hailing as a modern miracle.
Many of the 7,000-member Skver sect of Hasidim in New Square, 30 miles north of Manhattan, believe God has revealed himself in fish form.

According to two fish-cutters at the New Square Fish Market, the carp was about to be slaughtered and made into gefilte fish for Sabbath dinner when it suddenly began shouting apocalyptic warnings in Hebrew.

Many believe the carp was channelling the troubled soul of a revered community elder who recently died; others say it was God. The only witnesses to the mystical show were Zalmen Rosen, a 57-year-old Hasid with 11 children, and his co-worker, Luis Nivelo. They say that on 28 January at 4pm they were about to club the carp on the head when it began yelling.

Nivelo, a Gentile who does not understand Hebrew, was so shocked at the sight of a fish talking in any language that he fell over. He ran into the front of the store screaming: 'It's the Devil! The Devil is here!' Then the shop owner heard it shouting warnings and commands too.

'It said "Tzaruch shemirah" and "Hasof bah",' he told the New York Times, 'which essentially means that everyone needs to account for themselves because the end is near.'

The animated carp commanded Rosen to pray and study the Torah. Rosen tried to kill the fish but injured himself. It was finally butchered by Nivelo and sold.

However, word spread far and wide and Nivelo complains he has been plagued by phone calls from as far away as London and Israel. The story has since been amplified by repetition and some now believe the fish's outburst was a warning about the dangers of the impending war in Iraq.

Some say they fear the born-again President Bush believes he is preparing the world for the Second Coming of Christ, and war in Iraq is just the opening salvo in the battle of Armageddon.

Local resident Abraham Spitz said: 'Two men do not dream the same dream. It is very rare that God reminds people he exists in this modern world. But when he does, you cannot ignore it.'

Others in New Square discount the apocalyptic reading altogether and suggest the notion of a talking fish is as fictional as Tony Soprano's talking-fish dream in an episode of The Sopranos .

Stand-up comedians have already incorporated the carp into their comedy routines at weddings. One gefilte company has considered changing it's slogan to: 'Our fish speaks for itself.'

Still, the shouting carp corresponds with the belief of some Hasidic sects that righteous people can be reincarnated as fish. They say that Nivelo may have been selected because he is not Jewish, but a weary Nivelo told the New York Times : 'I wish I never said anything about it. I'm getting so many calls every day, I've stopped answering. Israel, London, Miami, Brooklyn. They all want to hear about the talking fish.'

A devout Christian, he still thinks the carp was the Devil. 'I don't believe any of this Jewish stuff. But I heard that fish talk.'

03-15-03 08:51 PM
parmeda omg....Josh would RUN with this, LOL!

Nank, where DO YOU find this stuff...
03-15-03 09:17 PM
TheSavageYoungXyzzy It was on the front page of the New York Times today!

Quick! Stop the war, A CARP has commanded it!

-tSYX --- Cancel everything...
03-15-03 09:40 PM
telecaster Talking carp? Believe me, they exist.

Come out with me some night just before closing time
in Chicago. And many of them do speak Yiddish......
03-15-03 09:42 PM
nankerphelge We gotta get some for the Koi pond!

03-15-03 10:29 PM
LadyJane LMAO!!

I think I've finally heard it all. All I got to say is whatever the fish-cutters were smokin', send a HUGE amount my way!!!

LadyJ.

03-15-03 10:57 PM
Maxlugar I saw that Carp!

He was three things.

1) Big.
2) Pissed off.
3) Delicious.

Oops!

Macky done eat the miraculous fish!
03-16-03 11:47 AM
full moon Last night my steak said " please do not eat me".......... A true miracle.. The world is ending..
03-16-03 01:17 PM
steel driving hammer Sparks Will Fly



Back on you baiiiiiiie!
03-17-03 03:59 AM
marko That ass,i would Unite........lol.
03-17-03 07:50 AM
Maxlugar Jesus Christ Marko!

That's Steelie's ass!

What the hell did you guys do on the raod from CLEVELAND to Chicago?

03-17-03 08:06 AM
steel driving hammer
quote:
Maxlugar wrote:
Jesus Christ Marko!

That's Steelie's ass!

What the hell did you guys do on the raod from CLEVELAND to Chicago?




This that and the other...

But hey, Marko and I were trying to keep the C10 thing alive when all you bastards went home!

War Baby!
03-17-03 01:12 PM
Monkey Woman
quote:
Nankerphelge wrote:
According to two fish-cutters at the New Square Fish Market, the carp was about to be slaughtered and made into gefilte fish for Sabbath dinner when it suddenly began shouting apocalyptic warnings in Hebrew.


One question: who's the ventriloquist???
03-17-03 01:29 PM
Joey


<----- Nanky , your " Howard Carter - Like " find is refreshing and thought provoking .

Agreed little buddy , you know , I was just thinking , it is days like today ( with Carly hovering over me like a deranged banshee ) that I wax a little nostalgic and harken back ...................What ???????????????? Oh , Oh , not now :


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