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| justinkurian |
THROWING STONES
Hi Keith,
The Rolling Stones' American tour has just ended after six months on the road and a probable gross record. Contrarily, I've heard that their latest studio release was a "commercial failure" despite a top 3 debut. I would like to know the Stones' SoundScan totals to date, as it seems that they're a (huge) touring band that sells relatively few albums.
Sincerely,
Federico Petito
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Hello Federico,
The Rolling Stones' most recent studio album, "A Bigger Bang," has sold 500,000 in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan, across 26 weeks. Released in September 2005, the Virgin album debuted at No. 3 on The Billboard 200.
While half a million copies of an album isn't quite flop status, it's not exactly a great number, either. The Stones' previous studio album, 1997's "Bridges To Babylon," has sold 1.2 million. In "Bridges'" first 26 weeks of availability, it moved 985,000 units.
"Bridges" also had a hit single and video in "Anybody Seen My Baby." The song climbed to No. 3 on Billboard Radio Monitor's Mainstream Rock chart. Three more singles from "Bridges" charted on one of the many charts Billboard (or Billboard Radio Monitor) publishes: "Flip the Switch," "Out of Control" and "Saint of Me."
So far, two cuts from "Bang" have reached the Mainstream Rock chart: "Rough Justice" (No. 25) and "Oh No, Not You Again" (No. 34).
The Stones next head to Tokyo for a two-night stand at the Tokyo Dome on March 22 and 24. The band has tour dates lined up through an Aug. 29 show in Cardiff, England.
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| Break The Spell |
That guy from billboard didn't mention the sucess Rain Fall Down had on the dance charts. |
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| Soldatti |
I was the guy that asked!
My question was for their Soundscan sales since 1991, but he only answered the latest two studio albums figures. |
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| Break The Spell |
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Soldatti wrote:
I was the guy that asked!
My question was for their Soundscan sales since 1991, but he only answered the latest two studio albums figures.
It figures, their always full of mistakes and half-information over there. Soundscan sales can be misleading figures to some people, as it only has sales of albums from 1991-present. So for all the albums from the 60's, 70's and 80's that sold in the millions, soundscan may only have that those albums sold in the thousands as it don't take to account what these albums sold 1990 and before. |
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| jb |
Humiliating....................... |
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| glencar |
Soldatti makes the news! |
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| jb |
quote:
glencar wrote:
Soldatti makes the news!
See PM................... |
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| glencar |
Joshy, you have a PM or 2... |
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| Soldatti |
Still, 500k sold for a new Stones album in 2006 is not a bad thing. It will sell more in Europe this year (40 Licks moved 600k in Europe during the Licks tour) and another 100k during all the year in US. The final numbers could be 3 - 3.5 million worldwide, not a bad showing for an album without hits and selling, ONLY, for the name of the band.
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| Break The Spell |
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Soldatti wrote:
Still, 500k sold for a new Stones album in 2006 is not a bad thing. It will sell more in Europe this year (40 Licks moved 600k in Europe during the tour) and another 100k during all the year in US. The final numbers could be 3 - 3.5 million worldwide, not a bad showing for an album without hits and selling, ONLY, for the name of the band.
Thats how I look at it too, plus they still stayed true to their style on it. They could have sold more if they did the sell-out thing that Rod and Barry did, remaking 50-60 year old songs with schmaltzy background music. |
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| jb |
We needed 1.5 million USA to have any credibility.....we are done as far as albums..why make em if they don't sell....total humiliation...why do you think Rarities was thrown out at very little cost..to try to make some add'tl $$ for label which took a bath..at leasrt over 100k sold .. |
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| glencar |
Stones have no need for credibility. They are THE standard by which everything else is measured. |
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| Soldatti |
Rarities + ABB: 650k sold. |
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| IanBillen |
500,000 is excellent for smaller acts. It is a gold record.
Platinum is expected for a major act. Which is 1 million. If you are a major act you HAVE to cut platinum. If not, your album is simply not doing real well at all.
Problem being The Rolling Stones are certainly no small act, or mid-size act.
Sure, they never were incredible sellers. They sold their share. Now over-all sales are over two million right? That is what? Double Platinum. Double Platinum is a success, there is no question. Even platinum is considered a success. However, on the stature of a huge band, that is lower scale. A Bigger Bang sold about as much as Pinks last album. Not a faliure, but it certainly was no smash success. I certainly don't think Virgin lost anything on it. The record didn't haver a big budget and they surely didn't go nuts on spending on advertising it. I am sure Distro took most of the money the album costs. They still made money on it and Virgin still made money.
However, It really needed to sell a million copies in the US to be a nice seller.
Ian |
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| Soldatti |
For the masses, it's a Platinum album if we see the RIAA certification. Only the people with Soundscan access is informed of the real sales status. |
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| pdog |
Sold poor and sounds poor.
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| PeerQueer |
quote:
glencar wrote:
Stones have no need for credibility. They are THE standard by which everything else is measured.
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On this we agree... |
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| IanBillen |
The last chance ABB had to considerably boost sales was the DVD edition. Even then it is a long shot. If an album has been promoted, and isn't doing anything for six months after it's release it doesn't have much of a chance.\
There are exceptions. But those are usually albums that
A. suddenly sprout a hit single that wasn't originally thought of as not having as much potential as the others released previously
B. Or albums, from bands that just get discovered in the publics eye. I think Appetite for Destruction was out for a while. It took people a while to catch onto G & R. However that is pretty rare. Once or twice a decade.....maybe.
An album has two waves generally to get rolling. First is BY FAR the most important. Second is a different approach usually with a different single promoted.
ABB had both. It is, sadly, as good as gone as far as sales go. Has been for a good while now. However! And this is a BIG HOWEVER. The recent album gave The Stones possibly more credibility than their last album which was released eight years earlier. It is better and people know it. Exile wasn't as big a seller as Sticky Fingers, or Let it Bleed initially....but look how it ranks now.
ABB will be remembered as a sleeping whammy of an album. A great, hard hitting, no-frills, simplistic latter day album that surprised everyone. It is as best I have heard "unapologetic". It is, what it is, and pulls no punches as to where it is coming from. It goes straight at you nice and loud without any hidden agenda. It is straight up, rock-based, higher powered, Stones music that doesn't need to grow on you to get to like it. You love it AS SOON AS YOU HEAR IT! It will be remembered more than Bridges, maybe more than Voodoo, and hell, maybe more than anything since Tattoo You as far as great Stones stuff in the years to come......that says quite a bit.
*I think what alot of folks are missing here is:
ABB just wasn't taylored for radio play and this album wasn't about all that.
This album was about doing a strong, rock-solid, powerful Rock album without worrying about hit singles (except maybe SOL). That is what we wanted in the first place and I am thrilled we got it that way.
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| mmdog |
Just when you think the Stones can't sell albums anymore, a 12 year old compliation gets released in the U.S. and sells almost 800,000 copies. Is Jump Back still on the charts? That's amazing. |
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| Soldatti |
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Exile wasn't as big a seller as Sticky Fingers, or Let it Bleed initially....but look how it ranks now.
One of the big lies of the Stones history, just see the first ten weeks on the US charts of Exile:
10-*1*-1-1-1-2-2-3-3-6
4wks at #1 and not a big hit? |
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| Soldatti |
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mmdog wrote:
Just when you think the Stones can't sell albums anymore, a 12 year old compliation gets released in the U.S. and sells almost 800,000 copies. Is Jump Back still on the charts? That's amazing.
It's not on charts, but still sell 4,000 copies each week.
Since August 2004, the Stones released 4 albums on Virgin with combined sales of almost 1.5 million copies in US. |
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| IanBillen |
[quote]Soldatti wrote:
One of the big lies of the Stones history, just see the first ten weeks on the US charts of Exile:
10-*1*-1-1-1-2-2-3-3-6
4wks at #1 and not a big hit?
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Here we go again Soldatti. When did I say Exile wasn't a big hit? It charted well and sold well. However, to my knowledge, it didn't sell as much as Sticky Fingers, or Let it Bleed sold within a three year time frame. Did it? I think out of those three albums, Exile was the least selling of the three, for that era, in that era. It may of surpassed Let it Bleed down the road. It may of surpassed Stick y Fingers down the road. But look at the sales then, and look at the sales then. I think Exile was behind those three. My point being, is look at how Exile ranks now. Many times, ahead of those albums. Such as A Bigger Bang didn't sell nearly as well as Voodoo, or Bridges, but one day may be remembered as a better album than either of those being of it's quality.
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