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| Break The Spell |
So what's everyones opinion on the bands who made it into the hall this year?? Usually, I could care less about this ceremony, and plus rock is better heard in a concert hall than seen in a memorial hall, but there were some deserving bands who got in this year. I felt Black Sabbath was long over due for recognition. |
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| Joey |
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So what's everyones opinion on the bands who made it into the hall this year?? Usually, I could care less about this ceremony, and plus rock is better heard in a concert hall than seen in a memorial hall, but there were some deserving bands who got in this year. I felt Black Sabbath was long over due for recognition.
" Blondie's Debbie Harry: Real 'Heart of Glass'"
" The annual Rock and Roll Hall of Fame dinner would have been a severe dud had not Debbie Harry showed her dark side.
Seems that the now-redheaded Harry told the Hall of Fame producers she didn’t want former bandmates Nigel Harrison, Gary Valentine and Frank Infante on stage or anywhere near her, Chris Stein, Clem Burke and Jimmy Destry — the four remaining original players.
The bad blood among all involved quickly became publicly apparent last night. That’s because once Harry, Stein and Destry made their remarks and accepted their awards, the ditched trio was not satisfied with remaining mum about their snub.
First Valentine, who wrote the band’s original hits, “X Offender” and “I’m Always Touched By Your Presence Dear,” referred to being cut out of the band’s live performance, which was being readied to the side, noisily, while the cast-off members got to make their remarks.
Looking irked, Infante — who bears a resemblance to Lou Reed — baited Harry from the podium.
“We’d really like to play with you, would that be all right?”
Harry, who’d been off to the side with the others, walked up the mike and said, straight at Infante, “Can’t you see my band is playing?”
Infante didn’t miss a beat. “We thought we were the band,” he said, overlapping Harry as she then rattled off the names of three people no one had ever heard of who have obviously replaced Infante and Harrison (Valentine was only on the first Blondie album).
There was audible hissing at Harry, who didn’t come off very well in the moment. Harrison tried to make the best of it, but his remarks — which echoed Infante’s — were basically swallowed by the silence.
It was the first time former band members had actually confronted the “star” of their group on stage at a Hall of Fame dinner.
Harry then launched into a medley of hits, looking rattled, frankly. The band went through “Heart of Glass,” “Rapture” and “Call on Me” but despite Harry’s hitting a pretty swell note on “Rapture” they never really got it together.
I was told later that a backstage fight had preceded the onstage one, which was pretty startling to begin with.
Harrison, Infante and Valentine told me they’d volunteered to play a song without Harry et al., but the offer was rejected. “Originally we were told that if we came, Debbie wouldn’t show up,” Harrison said. “But you can see she did. The VH-1 exposure is too good, I guess.”
My guess is you won't see any of that when the show airs on VH-1. Too bad: It was one of the few real moments in an Oreo of a night. What do I mean? The RRHOF dinner started with an R&B act — the humongous, overweight Solomon Burke seated in gold throne, performing a tribute to Wilson Pickett with Leela James and Marc Broussard helping out. It was so weird it was wonderful.
The dinner ended, many hours later, with a tribute to New Orleans musicians fronted by Alan Toussaint. He was joined by Buckwheat Zydeco, Elvis Costello, Robbie Robertson and the Wild Magnolias. For those who'd stayed or survived, it was a joyous number, full of the soul and spontaneity the rest of the night surely lacked.
In between, we were treated to the induction of Black Sabbath, who did not perform but instead let Metallica do the honors. It was the loudest I’ve ever heard “music” played in the Waldorf Ballroom. We also had the pleasure of seeing Lynyrd Skynyrd get in and play “Sweet Home Alabama” with Kid Rock on vocals and the dreadful, hackneyed “Free Bird.”
“Things are only going to get worse,” one head of a record company said to me at this point. “Everyone decent is in already.”
Well, not quite. But if the Rock Hall continues in this fashion, the party will be over. Another night of whitebread rock would be two too many.
There were some good moments, though. Although it didn’t quite make sense, jazz legend Miles Davis was inducted. Herbie Hancock brought former Davis musicians who are themselves legends — Jackie DeJohnette, Wallace Roney, Marcus Miller and Buster Williams — and their short performance was sublime.
I don’t know what Lars UIrich of Metallica — whose speech about Ozzy Osbourne was peppered with the F word — made of them. But it was that kind of night.
Sting inducted trumpeter Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss, founders of the great A&M Records; their presence and speeches were most welcome. A&M released such artists as Carole King, Cat Stevens, The Police, Procol Harum, Joan Baez and Peter Frampton, not to mention Lee Michaels' great pop single, "Do You Know What I Mean?"
The RRHOF dinner boasted not just a few non-members who should be in. Daryl Hall came as a guest of BMI Music, and I chatted with Brian May and Roger Taylor of Queen.
Someone said Frampton was around, although I didn't see him. Dave Navarro of the Red Hot Chili Peppers was a guest at Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne's table. Jerry Blavatt brought Frankie Valli around to say hi, and there was a table of "Saturday Night Live" cast members including Rachel Dratch, Fred Armisen, Will Forte, Seth Meyers and two of the new guys.
I also saw Cousin Bruce Morrow, who must be wondering how things have gotten so ugly. And Peter Wolf of the J. Geils Band came down from Boston.
To paraphrase Jon Stewart from the Oscars: Ozzy Osbourne is in, and Billy Preston, the Moody Blues, Todd Rundgren, Mary Wells, Linda Ronstadt, Cat Stevens, Rufus and Carla Thomas, Chubby Checker and Carly Simon are all still out.
Just some notes from the dinner: Elvis Costello, who returns to the Waldorf tomorrow night for Katie Couric's charity dinner, quipped: "I'm living here now"…
Sting, who brought daughter Mickey as a date, leaves Thursday to join wife, Trudie Styler, in Paris to celebrate their 25th anniversary. Don't believe what you read elsewhere. These two are a very married union…
Sharon Osbourne, looking sensational, told me she's got two chat shows in the UK but none here. "I can’t get a f—in' job here," she said with a laugh. The Osbournes told me they're very happy their MTV show is over. They've never gone back and looked at the tapes…
Kid Rock smoked everything and anything all night and took "black tie" to mean wearing a white undershirt "wife beater" with jeans and a cowboy hat…
Warner's Lyor Cohen stuck it out longer than usual and looked happy to be in the room…
Happy to see Michael Klenfner, the grand poobah of marketing in the record biz. The labels could use more of his expertise…
Also happy to see Atlantic Records' legendary Ahmet Ertegun give the opening remarks, and Sire Records' Seymour Stein, as well as his longtime companion and sometime wife Linda, they're two of our faves…
Jann Wenner and boyfriend Matt Nye: despite Liz Smith's announcement, unable to tell which is pregnant…
And props to Miles Davis' son Gregory, who didn't get a ticket to the show and was said to have spent the dinner hour in the Waldorf lobby. Somehow he managed to get from there to lead speaker for the Davis children when they accepted their father's award. Good for him!
Jacko Update, and Fond Farewells
As of close of business yesterday, no one at the California Department of Labor had heard from Michael Jackson or his representatives. At 5 p.m. today PT, Neverland can be shut for good and Jackson sued. Jackson, who gets around, is said to have returned to London from Bahrain. We’re going to put a LoJack on him next. A LoJack for MiJac, get it?…
A fond send-off to Oscar-winning actress Maureen Stapleton. She died yesterday at age 80. Her Oscar was for playing socialist Emma Goldman in "Reds," but among her many wonderful performances was E.G. Marshall's wife in Woody Allen's "Interiors." She was just one of those gems, the likes of which we will never see again…
A memorial show for R&B legend Wilson Pickett is set for March 20, at B.B. King in New York. The lineup is being finalized, but Pickett's band will be there, Southside Johnny's going to sing, and the $30 admission will go to MusiCares, in Wilson’s memory. More info tomorrow on this special event… "
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,187781,00.html
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| Break The Spell |
Thanks for the info Joey, too bad all that chaos with the Blondie camp might not make it to the show, it definately would be a highlight. I wonder what the hell Infante and Harrison ever did to her to piss her off so bad?? |
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| Saint Sway |
"Tonight you see us on our best behavior. But, truly, we are being rewarded for twenty-five years of bad behavior."
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| Joey |
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I wonder what the hell Infante and Harrison ever did to her to piss her off so bad??
Yeah , I was wondering that myself Break The Spell !!!!
I just don't know the History of the group very well --- perhaps others on this board can provide more information . |
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| pdog |
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perhaps others on this board can provide more information. 
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| nankerphelge |
They used to braid her nose hair when she was passed out!!
She hated that...
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| RollingstonesUSA |
Speaking of the fucking Rock 'N' Roll Hall Of Fame, why the fuck is this MAN NOT IN!!!!
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Too bad they didn't get around to inducting the original Alice Cooper Band while all the members were still alive. My favorite is Billion Dollar Babies. |
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Too bad they didn't get around to inducting the original Alice Cooper Band while all the members were still alive. My favorite is Billion Dollar Babies.
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You shall be greeted!!!! |
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Too bad they didn't get around to inducting the original Alice Cooper Band while all the members were still alive. My favorite is Billion Dollar Babies.
You shall be greeted!!!!
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Get ready because I plan on going to Myrtle Beach this summer, I'll have to make a pit stop in Columbia on the way. |
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You shall be greeted!!!!
Get ready because I plan on going to Myrtle Beach this summer, I'll have to make a pit stop in Columbia on the way.
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Sweet, I was just in myrtle beach friday for a black crowes concert, wasent that great, goin this sunday for george thorogood, where are you from....oh I am to Alice Cooper as Joey is to The Who!....lol |
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RollingstonesUSA wrote:
Get ready because I plan on going to Myrtle Beach this summer, I'll have to make a pit stop in Columbia on the way.
Sweet, I was just in myrtle beach friday for a black crowes concert, wasent that great, goin this sunday for george thorogood, where are you from....oh I am to Alice Cooper as Joey is to The Who!....lol
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I'm from Northern KY, just a few minutes from Cincinnati. I usually go to Myrtle Beach for vacation, not too bad of a drive. I remember passing the Columbia exit on the way to and from each time, never stopped there though. You ever go to Charleston?? |
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....and why aren't " THE SMALL FACES " in the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame ?!?!?!
The ' Great Marriotti & Company ' are looooong overdue IMHO !!!!!! |
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| nanatod |
Here's the complete list of inductees so far by year. The problem is that some of listees really don't belong in it.
If you dumped them, there would be room for others, Rollingstones USA.
performers
Chuck Berry
James Brown
Ray Charles
Sam Cooke
Fats Domino
The Everly Brothers
Buddy Holly
Jerry Lee Lewis
Elvis Presley
Little Richard
early influences
Robert Johnson
Jimmie Rodgers
Jimmy Yancey-- should be dumped imo; uninfluential bluesman
lifetime achievement
award in the
non-performer
category
John Hammond
non-performers
Alan Freed
Sam Phillips
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performers
The Coasters
Eddie Cochran -should be dumped imo
Bo Diddley
Aretha Franklin
Marvin Gaye
Bill Haley
B. B. King
Clyde McPhatter
Ricky Nelson
Roy Orbison
Carl Perkins
Smokey Robinson
Big Joe Turner -- should be dumped imo
Muddy Waters
Jackie Wilson
early influences
Louis Jordan
T-Bone Walker
Hank Williams
non-performers
Leonard Chess
Ahmet Ertegun
Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller
Jerry Wexler
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performers
The Beach Boys
The Beatles
The Drifters -- should be dumped imo
Bob Dylan
The Supremes
early influences
Woody Guthrie
Lead Belly
Les Paul
non-performers
Berry Gordy, Jr
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performers
Dion -- should be dumped imo; in due to NY critics
Otis Redding
The Rolling Stones
The Temptations
Stevie Wonder
early influences
The Inkspots -- should be dumped imo
Bessie Smith -- should be dumped imo
The Soul Stirrers
non-performers
Phil Spector
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performers
Hank Ballard -- why is he here?
Bobby Darin
The Four Seasons
The Four Tops
The Kinks
The Platters -- another non-rocking vocal group
Simon and Garfunkel
The Who
early influences
Louis Armstrong
Charlie Christian -- maybe jazz hall of fame, but not here
Ma Rainey
non-performers
Gerry Goffin and Carole King
Holland, Dozier and Holland
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performers
LaVern Baker -- should be dumped imo (not influential)
The Byrds
John Lee Hooker
The Impressions
Wilson Pickett
Jimmy Reed
Ike and Tina Turner
early influences
Howlin' Wolf
lifetime achievement
award in the
non-performer
category
Nesuhi Ertegun
non-performers
Dave Bartholomew
Ralph Bass
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performers
Bobby "Blue" Bland -- I think he's great, but doesn't belong
Booker T. and the M.G.'s
Johnny Cash
The Isley Brothers
The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Sam and Dave
The Yardbirds
early influences
Elmore James
Professor Longhair
non-performers
Leo Fender
Bill Graham
Doc Pomus
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performers
Ruth Brown -- another NY critics fave
Cream
Creedence Clearwater Revival
The Doors
Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers --doo wop hall, not here imo
Etta James
Van Morrison
Sly and the Family Stone
early influences
Dinah Washington
non-performers
Dick Clark
Milt Gabler
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performers
The Animals -- way over-rated imo
The Band
Duane Eddy
The Grateful Dead
Elton John
John Lennon
Bob Marley
Rod Stewart -- after 1975, career is embarrassing to R&R
early influences
Willie Dixon
non-performers
Johnny Otis
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performers
The Allman Brothers Band
Al Green
Janis Joplin
Led Zeppelin
Martha and the Vandellas -- not influential enough imo
Neil Young
Frank Zappa
early influences
The Orioles
non-performers
Paul Ackerman
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performers
David Bowie
Gladys Knight and the Pips
Jefferson Airplane
Little Willie John -- not important enough imo
Pink Floyd
The Shirelles
The Velvet Underground
early influences
Pete Seeger
non-performers
Tom Donahue
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performers
The (Young) Rascals -- in due to NYC critics' favor
The Bee Gees -- should be dumped imo
Buffalo Springfield
Crosby, Stills and Nash
The Jackson Five
Joni Mitchell
Parliament-Funkadelic
early influences
Mahalia Jackson
Bill Monroe
non-performers
Syd Nathan
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performers
The Eagles -- dump them, keep Joe Walsh
Fleetwood Mac
The Mamas and the Papas
Lloyd Price -- retired too soon to merit hall of fame
Santana
Gene Vincent
early influences
Jelly Roll Morton
non-performers
Allen Toussaint
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performers
Billy Joel -- kick him to the curb
Curtis Mayfield
Paul McCartney
Del Shannon
Dusty Springfield -- one song does not make a worthy entrant
Bruce Springsteen
The Staple Singers
early influences
Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys
Charles Brown
non-performers
George Martin
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performers
Eric Clapton
Earth, Wind & Fire
Lovin' Spoonful
The Moonglows
Bonnie Raitt
James Taylor -- never has "rocked out"
early influences
Nat "King" Cole
Billie Holiday
sidemen
Hal Blaine
King Curtis
James Jamerson
Scotty Moore
Earl Palmer
non-performers
Clive Davis
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performers
Aerosmith
Solomon Burke
The Flamingos
Michael Jackson
Queen
Paul Simon
Steely Dan
Ritchie Valens
sidemen
James Burton
Johnnie Johnson
non-performers
Chris Blackwell
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performers
Isaac Hayes
Brenda Lee
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Gene Pitney
Ramones
Talking Heads
sidemen
Chet Atkins
non-performers
Jim Stewart
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performers
AC/DC
The Clash
Elvis Costello & the Attractions
The Police
Righteous Brothers
sidemen
Benny Benjamin
Floyd Cramer
Steve Douglas
non-performers
Mo Ostin
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performers
Jackson Browne
The Dells
George Harrison
Prince
Bob Seger
Traffic
ZZ Top
lifetime achievement
award in the
non-performer
category
Jann S. Wenner
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performers
Buddy Guy -- (fellow Chicagoan)shouldn't to be here imo
The O'Jays
The Pretenders
Percy Sledge
U2
lifetime achievement
award in the
non-performer
category
Frank Barsalona
Seymour Stein
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performers
Black Sabbath
Blondie
Miles Davis
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Sex Pistols
lifetime achievement
award in the
non-performer
category
Herb Alpert & Jerry Moss
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" Dion -- should be dumped imo; in due to NY critics "
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHAT ?!?!?!
After he penned this mighty hit :
Has anybody here seen my old friend Steelie ?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good they die young.
You know, I just looked around and he's gone.
Anybody here seen my old friend John?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good they die young.
I just looked around and he's gone.
Anybody here seen my old friend Martin?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good they die young.
I just looked 'round and he's gone.
Didn't you love the things that they stood for?
Didn't they try to find some good for you and me?
And we'll be free
Some day soon, and it's a-gonna be one day ...
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walk up over the hill,
With Steelie , Martin and John.
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Joey Buttifuko 
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Sweet, I was just in myrtle beach friday for a black crowes concert, wasent that great, goin this sunday for george thorogood, where are you from....oh I am to Alice Cooper as Joey is to The Who!....lol
I'm from Northern KY, just a few minutes from Cincinnati. I usually go to Myrtle Beach for vacation, not too bad of a drive. I remember passing the Columbia exit on the way to and from each time, never stopped there though. You ever go to Charleston??
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RollingstonesUSA wrote:
Sweet, I was just in myrtle beach friday for a black crowes concert
you should of went to see them on saturday to NC. Fantastic set.
btw, I have a boot of former Crowe and Raliegh native, Audley Freed, doing Alice's "Is It My Body" with Govt Mule. PM me if you're interested.
The Black Crowes
11 March 2006 - Thomas Wolfe Auditorium - Asheville, NC [ USA ]
S E T L I S T :
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Wiser Time
Soul Singing
Thick N' Thin
Comin' Home (delaney & bonnie)
Sister Luck
Long Black Veil (Cash ~ 1st time played)
Hotel Illness
Cypress Tree
Thorn In My Pride
Fearless (pink floyd)
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Virtue And Vice
Let It Be Gone (grease band ~ 1st time played)
High Head Blues
Alabama (neil young ~ 1st time played)
Darling Of The Underground Press
She Talks To Angels
Downtown Money Waster
Nonfiction
Jealous Again
Twice As Hard
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| Voodoo Scrounge |
I think Dion deserves his place in there.
I also think that Rod Stewart deserves his place for both pre and post 1975.
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers are so great. Sorry, just thought I would add that! |
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| nanatod |
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I think Dion deserves his place in there.
I also think that Rod Stewart deserves his place for both pre and post 1975.
What's with this board? People liking Dion and Rod Stewart, but not Aerosmith or Black Crowes. Where's Motorhead's forum? |
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| Break The Spell |
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Where's Motorhead's forum?
Lemmy once said "If we practiced next door to you, your lawn would die". |
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