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16th February 2007 12:46 PM
monkey_man I'm checking this out.


CONSERVATIVES GET EDGY IN FOX’S FAKE NEWS SHOW

An answer to Jon Stewart's 'Daily Show' takes shots at Clinton, Gore, hybrid cars
Joe Garofoli, Chronicle Staff Writer

Friday, February 16, 2007


Sunday at 7 p.m., Fox News Channel premieres its antidote to the left-leaning humor of Comedy Central's "The Daily Show With Jon Stewart" and "The Colbert Report" -- a conservative fake news show. Within seconds, liberal viewers will realize why creators of "The 1/2 Hour News Hour" joked that the show's alternative title was "Pissing Off Berkeley."

The first joke on "The 1/2 Hour News Hour" mocks New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign. Seeking to dispel myths that she'd appoint a bunch of political cronies if elected, the show's fake anchor intones, Clinton promised to appoint "a diverse, multiethnic, multigenerational group -- of angry lesbians." Gales of laughter ensue.

Dorothy, you are back in Kansas.

But as often occurs on Fox's "24" -- the other program that " 1/2 Hour" executive producer Joel Surnow presides over -- there's a twist: A lot of the creative energy behind the liberal bashing on "The 1/2 Hour News Hour" originated in Berkeley.

This may be hard for liberals to believe, as the punch-line targets for the first episode of "The 1/2 Hour News Hour" seem to be ripped from a blue-state group hug: global warming, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, the ACLU, Cindy Sheehan, hybrid cars, Al Gore. With its male-female anchor team and fake advertisements sprinkled in during the show's breaks, the show's creators describe the program as a hybrid of "The Daily Show" and "Saturday Night Live's" "Weekend Update." "And that's the only kind of hybrid I approve of," said " 1/2 Hour News Hour" writer Ned Rice.

Surnow wanted the show's introductory skit to "throw down the gauntlet" by showing "a liberal's worst nightmare" of the next occupants of the White House. The nightmare: President Rush Limbaugh and Vice President Ann Coulter, who played themselves as a favor to their pal Surnow.

Urging viewers to tune into to the rest of the show, Coulter said, "If you don't, we'll invade your countries, kill your leaders and convert you to Christianity."

Much like "24," Surnow's latest project is not for the politically retiring. He and his co-creators are tired of hearing the same Bush-bashing jokes coming from notoriously liberal Hollywood. While no Republicans or conservatives are on the butt end of jokes in the first episode, writer Rice promised that the show will goof on the GOP "when it's appropriate, sure."

"But that's not the premise of the show," Surnow quickly added. "The premise of the show is: Let's balance out the 50 other shows that go after Bush and Cheney each week, that hit all the same talking points and all the same 'white Republicans are racist idiots' " material.

So what's off-limits? The war? On "The Daily Show," Stewart mocks the prosecution of the war ("Mess o' Potamia"), while steering clear of bashing the troops. And while his humor may skew left (Stewart said he voted for Democratic Sen. John Kerry in 2004), he frequently ridicules Democrats for their ineptitude and meekness in opposing Republicans. Conservatives, like the cameo this week from MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, often visit.

Surnow predicted his show would mock the media's reporting of the war. Or how Democrats handle it.

"We actually do a piece in the second episode about the ultra-sensitive reporting of terrorism," Surnow said. "It's sort of a piece against the way the media is so careful not to racially profile any suspected terrorists or terrorists themselves. I don't think the show will take a position, like 'We're for the war.' 'We're against the war.' "

And when they go after the media, Rice said Fox will "be our first targets."

But don't expect Bush jokes.

"Liberals are endlessly entertained by jokes about how George W. Bush is stupid and ignorant," Rice said. "Despite the fact that he has a master's degree from Harvard University. He's been a governor, a president. He's had a massively successful life. But those jokes about him being dumb, they just never fail."

So instead, there are jokes about the financially struggling liberal radio network, Air America.

If Surnow's answering machine is full of liberal critics on Monday morning, they'll have to wait behind those from recent critics of the torture scenes on "24." This month, the New Yorker reported that both Human Rights First, a nonprofit that lobbies against both real and televised torture, and leaders from the U.S. military academy at West Point asked the creators of "24" to tone down the program's torture scenes. On Thursday, two bipartisan members of the Federal Communications Commission endorsed a new agency report that said Congress could regulate violence on television similar to how it limits sexual material and profanity.

But Surnow bristled at those who confuse a television entertainment program with reality, especially a show as cartoonish as "24," where the next nuclear doomsday is just a few minutes away -- every week. But the torture hasn't disappeared.

"I wish adult behavior was so easily manipulated that a TV show could get people do to things a certain way," Surnow said. "The military didn't tell us anything. We tone it down when we want to tone it down."

Surnow told The Chronicle he was "fairly apolitical" until he attended college at UC Berkeley in the mid-1970s, where "I started hanging out with all these rich-kid Marxists, and I thought they were absurd.

"They were supported by their parents -- from wealthy families -- these upper-middle-class kids who were espousing the great communal experiments of Marx and Hegel. I thought they were idiots and hypocrites."

Surnow said he's had jobs since he was 12, and paid most of his way through college. Disgusted with his fellow students, he left UC Berkeley after 1 1/2 years.

But before his departure he found solace in an ushering job at the Pacific Film Archive, where he saw hundreds of foreign and experimental films. Soon, he was off to Hollywood to become a filmmaker -- and a conservative.

Now, Surnow is pals with Limbaugh and Coulter and counts Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff as a huge fan of "24." Last year, Chertoff and Limbaugh joined the "24" cast and creators at a conservative think-tank seminar.

But having A-list fans doesn't guarantee success. Fox has ordered only two episodes of "The 1/2 Hour News Hour." Surnow said the show shouldn't be viewed as a bellwether of the nation's desire for conservative comedy.

"If you were going to really test it, you'd have to try it out on a broadcast network," he said. "The Fox News network already has its base of viewers, and if its base of viewers tune in there, we could be successful. If it breaks out, and goes wider than the Fox News network audience, then I think it does make a statement." More than 190,000 viewers on the video-sharing site YouTube.com checked out a clip from the show within two days.

If 1.5 million viewers watched -- slightly less than Stewart's nightly 1.6 million audience and more than Colbert's 1.2 million -- Surnow said, "it would be a huge number."

E-mail Joe Garofoli at [email protected].
16th February 2007 12:52 PM
SheRat
quote:
Surnow told The Chronicle he was "fairly apolitical" until he attended college at UC Berkeley in the mid-1970s, where "I started hanging out with all these rich-kid Marxists, and I thought they were absurd.

"They were supported by their parents -- from wealthy families -- these upper-middle-class kids who were espousing the great communal experiments of Marx and Hegel. I thought they were idiots and hypocrites."



These kinds of kids ruin it for everybody.
16th February 2007 12:52 PM
glencar I've read that this show is deadly dull & that was by a conservative. Still, I'll give it a try.
16th February 2007 12:53 PM
SheRat
quote:
glencar wrote:
I've read that this show is deadly dull & that was by a conservative. Still, I'll give it a try.



I did enjoy that Ann Coulter mocks herself on it. She's like the new milleniums's version of Camille Paglia.
16th February 2007 12:55 PM
monkey_man
quote:
SheRat wrote:



These kinds of kids ruin it for everybody.




Fucking Trustifarians!
16th February 2007 12:55 PM
glencar Paglai's been quiet lately...I like Ann because she usually is on target & abcks up her assertions. And reading democrat underground after her book release provided weeks of comedy.
16th February 2007 01:06 PM
monkey_man Hey SheRat,
FYI, Willie is coming to the Fillmore for 5 shows in April.
16th February 2007 01:22 PM
SheRat
quote:
monkey_man wrote:
Hey SheRat,
FYI, Willie is coming to the Fillmore for 5 shows in April.



ack! When?

I hope I'm in town...I'll be gone til the 13th...

UPDATE: the dates are NOT on his Website. I can't believe he's playing the Catalyst.
[Edited by SheRat]
16th February 2007 01:29 PM
monkey_man I don't know the dates yet. . . .I'll find out tonight.
16th February 2007 01:33 PM
SheRat
quote:
monkey_man wrote:
I don't know the dates yet. . . .I'll find out tonight.



Oh! Hey. The Devil's Own is playing the Bottom of the Hill on April 18th with Drag the River and I can't remember who else. Just so's ya know. ;-)
16th February 2007 01:40 PM
monkey_man Remind me as we get closer to the date. Aren't we supposed to go see the Stooges on the 19th?
16th February 2007 02:25 PM
SheRat
quote:
monkey_man wrote:
Remind me as we get closer to the date. Aren't we supposed to go see the Stooges on the 19th?



heh heh. kamikaze show going
16th February 2007 04:30 PM
mojoman
quote:
glencar wrote:
I've read that this show is deadly dull & that was by a conservative. Still, I'll give it a try.



buzzkill?
16th February 2007 08:20 PM
Riffhard
quote:
monkey_man wrote:






Surnow told The Chronicle he was "fairly apolitical" until he attended college at UC Berkeley in the mid-1970s, where "I started hanging out with all these rich-kid Marxists, and I thought they were absurd.

"They were supported by their parents -- from wealthy families -- these upper-middle-class kids who were espousing the great communal experiments of Marx and Hegel. I thought they were idiots and hypocrites."





That is so goddamned true it's scary! I delt with same kind of kumeba ya socialists cum communists cum liberals when I went to college. These fucking kids taking poly sci courses on dadddy's dime all the while praising the virtue of communism!! Their sheer stupidty and ignorance was always a huge source of ammusent for me. The majority of these kids ended up working for Fortune 500 companies,or became lawyers. Not many pro bono lawyers either mind you!


Ronald Reagan said it best,-"Communism could only work in Heaven where they don't need it,or in Hell where they already have it."


Ignorant little college dweebs!



Riffy
16th February 2007 08:21 PM
Riffhard
quote:
monkey_man wrote:


Fucking Trustifarians!



LOL! That's good! I may need to borrow that one from time to time.



Riffy
16th February 2007 08:26 PM
pdog Dude!
Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
16th February 2007 08:46 PM
Riffhard
quote:
pdog wrote:
Dude!
Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting




I would love to own that shirt! It's so funny that kids that are completely ignorant of history hold up Che as some kind of hero for the poor huddled masses! They don't even know they have been duped! LOL! These are the same asshats that raise hell about Gitmo. Gee kids ever hear about what good ol' Che did to those he dissagreed with? He sure as hell didn't provide them with three hots and a cot and a volleyball court!


That's why I can't stand Tom Morrelo of Rage. The guy praises socialism and is always sporting a communist red star on his hat or lapel. Hey Tom if that system is goddamned good why don't you move to North Korea and try it out for spell?! Then when the truth hits you square between the eyes try and write a song about how fucked up and corrupt the system is. Not only would that moron end up in a remote prison never to be heard from again(or worse),but he wouldn't have all the shit that the evil capitalist system favored in the USA has gotten him. It sounds so cliche',but here goes,Tom Morrello is a typical leftwing hypocrite.



Riffy
16th February 2007 09:02 PM
pdog Being in SF, I was unfortunate enough to meet alot of the Dead's touring kids...
Nuerotic rich kids, pleading poverty, selling drugs and carrying their parents gold card in their dirty unwashed jeans pocket. I never disliked The Dead, until I met these freaks.... I think I may in a few years be able to actually hear the band for what they were.
Point is, they fall into the Trustifarian, Commie mislead group for me...
They were so annoying, they made me dislike a band!
16th February 2007 09:37 PM
mojoman
quote:
monkey_man wrote:


Fucking Trustifarians!



trust but verify
17th February 2007 02:55 PM
monkey_man
quote:
pdog wrote:

Nuerotic rich kids, pleading poverty, selling drugs and carrying their parents gold card in their dirty unwashed jeans pocket. I never disliked The Dead, until I met these freaks.... I think I may in a few years be able to actually hear the band for what they were.
Point is, they fall into the Trustifarian, Commie mislead group for me...
They were so annoying, they made me dislike a band!



Dude, think about how much I've had to deal with these jackasses over the years. I worked about 100 Jerry shows before he died and every Dead reincarnation show in SF since. I absolutely can't stand these twits. The only thing worse than the trust fund kids with dreadlocks are Marina hippies!!
17th February 2007 06:21 PM
pdog I'm really hoping this show will be funny. I spent too much time proclaiming that no matter how goofy, liberals usely seem to more talented in the arts and comedy ect...
I will record this shw, and watch it with my hopes that the right can finally bash Clintons and bidens and Obamas with the same humor and wit I see from John Stewart ect...
The war on liberal comedy has begun!
18th February 2007 02:06 AM
Brainbell Jangler
quote:
pdog wrote:
Being in SF, I was unfortunate enough to meet alot of the Dead's touring kids...
Nuerotic rich kids, pleading poverty, selling drugs and carrying their parents gold card in their dirty unwashed jeans pocket. I never disliked The Dead, until I met these freaks.... I think I may in a few years be able to actually hear the band for what they were.
Point is, they fall into the Trustifarian, Commie mislead group for me...
They were so annoying, they made me dislike a band!


I hear what you're saying, and I've seen too many of the phony hippies you're talking about. But I think judging the Dead (or their true fans) by those fools is no more fair than judging the Stones by the couple on the cover of "No Security."

Every town must have a place where phony hippies meet
Psychedelic dungeons popping up on every street
Go to San Francisco
--Frank Zappa, "Who Needs the Peace Corps?" (1968)
18th February 2007 10:15 AM
mojoman They took a whole bunch of acid
So they could see where it's at
(It's over there, over there,
Over there, over there
And under here also)
Doont, da-doodem doodem!
They lived on a whole bunch of nothing
They thought they looked very good
They'd never ever worry
They were always in a hurry
To convince themselves that what they were
Was really very groovy
Yes, they believed in all the papers
And the magazines that defined their folklore
They could never laugh
At who or what they thought they were
Or even what they thought
They sorta oughta be
They were totally empty
(Totally empty)
And their lives were really useless
So what the fuck?
They didn't have no sense of humor
(Oodly-oodly-yeah!)
Now they got nothing left
To laugh about
Including themselves

Turn turn
Turn turn
We're turning again
Turn turn
Turn turn
We're turning again

Bprr . . . bprr . . . the year 1967
Drug-crazed youth discovered vagrancy as a way of life
EWW-WW!
Dey were mellow
Dey were yellow
Dey were wearing smelly blankets
Dey looked like DONOVAN fans
(HU-UR-DE-EE
GU-UR-DE-EE)
Dey walkin' 'round
With stupid flowers
In dey hair an' evvywhere
Dey tried to stuff 'em up de guns
Of all the cops and other servants of the law
(LA LA-LA-LA LA-LA)
Who tried to push 'em around
And later mowed 'em down
But they were full of all that shit
That they believed in
(PHEW!)
So what the fuck?
(WHAT THE FUCK?)
Now I seen 'em tightenin' up dey headbands
On the weekend and dey get loaded
When dey came to town
Dey walk around in GREEMICH VILLAGE
To buy posters dey could hang up
In dem smelly little secret
Black light bedrooms
On LONN-ISLAND
Singin': "JIMI COME BACK!"
Now come back and regulate de boy's FURZ-tone
Yo' HAZE was so PURPLE
It caused your AXIS to be BOLD AS LOVE
(JIMI-JIMI-JIMI-JIMI-JIMI FEED BACK)
Now Jimi gimme some feedback
Come back and feed back on my knapsack
You can feed back the fuzz tone from your WAH-WAH
While you bend down
And set your stuff on FIRE

We're turning again (mothers of prevention 1985)

zappa is frank!!!
19th February 2007 01:32 AM
pdog There's was a few funny things, but the delivery by the two hosts sucked...
They need to take a few cues from the so-called liberal faux news shows, make fun of everyone, not just one politcal group. The hosts need to slow down the delivery and the writers need to cover all the bases...
19th February 2007 02:06 AM
Brainbell Jangler http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-mcquaid/why-arent-conservatives-_b_41256.html
19th February 2007 02:03 PM
glencar
quote:
pdog wrote:
There's was a few funny things, but the delivery by the two hosts sucked...
They need to take a few cues from the so-called liberal faux news shows, make fun of everyone, not just one politcal group. The hosts need to slow down the delivery and the writers need to cover all the bases...

It was better than some advance reviews. BTW Your review echoes that of the NY Times last Friday. I liked it more than I thought I would.
19th February 2007 02:33 PM
pdog
quote:
glencar wrote:
It was better than some advance reviews. BTW Your review echoes that of the NY Times last Friday. I liked it more than I thought I would.



i didn't read the NYT review, I wouldn't even have known of the show if MM didn't post this thread... How fucked is NYT when I write as good as they do?
19th February 2007 02:38 PM
glencar Actually, the writer of the review is a very good one even though I (natch) don't often agree with her.
19th February 2007 11:46 PM
Brainbell Jangler
quote:
pdog wrote:
How fucked is NYT when I write as good as they do?


You are too humble, dog.
20th February 2007 01:04 AM
pdog
quote:
Brainbell Jangler wrote:

You are too humble, dog.



They got degrees and resumes chock full of good stuff, i came by this the old fashioned way, mental defect...
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