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14th February 2007 09:10 PM
texile Friday, February 09, 2007
Anthony Kiedis on Becoming the Rolling Stones and Watching Porn
Anthony Kiedis and the Red Hot Chili Peppers are nominated for six Grammy awards, including Album of the Year. Kiedis sat down with Blender magazine to discuss the Grammy nominations and a few other topics. The current issue hits news stands on February 13th.

On being recognized by the recording industry: "It"s a thrill to hear that the two years we dedicated to making this record mattered. But the ultimate moment of joy and approval happens the minute we write a song. It's the minute Chad hears something in John's playing and I start hearing a melody - and then by the end of the day we have a song."

On becoming the next Rolling Stones: "They've made great music, but they don't seem like something I'd like us to be. They don't seem to have a real band unity. I don't know that they enjoy the process as much."

On his addictive personality: "When I finally got a computer, I discovered this limitless world of pornography. And I realized the feeling that I was having was like the feeling that I used to get when I'd go score drugs. I actually had to make a commitment to myself to stop,"

On his musical taste: "The majority of the music that I love comes from people who are in rebellion against the physical part of their lives. Joey Ramone, for instance. But I think the two go together great. There's something absolutely freeing about being able to turn your body into a whirling dervish. There's a reason why people have danced for 20,000 years. Dancing gets the attention of the spirits."

......................

The Red Hot Chili Peppers also added some salt to the evening when they "forgot" that their interview with Seacrest was live. Frontman Anthony Kiedis sprayed silly string all over the broadcaster, and accidentally touched his genitals when he tried to clean up the mess.

i won't even comment on the stones comment, but a note to
anthony:
the chicks put out a cd full of real songs, melodies and depth....
as opposed to pseudo-rap/funk jibberish...
i'm all for rock and roll being more daring and all but for someone who sings as many non-sensical shit as he does...
its bothersome.









14th February 2007 09:12 PM
sirmoonie In all seriousness, who has ever said that the Red Hot Chili Peppers were on their way to be the next Rolling Stones?
14th February 2007 09:18 PM
texile didn't include the chicks comment AND another stones reference...

Backstage, singer Anthony Kiedis discussed his distaste with the current state of rock. "I think the genre has gotten kinda stale," he said. "Rock bands don`t seem to be taking that many chances. Hopefully they will in the future, and it`s only a phase." He added that the more innovative music is coming from the electronic and pop fields. Later, drummer Chad Smith commented that he thought the Recording Academy was "making a bit of a statement by having Dixie Chicks win everything." The topic then turned to longevity and the band`s future. Said bassist Flea, "The music keeps us together; the music guides us." But what about 20 years from now? Will the Chili Peppers emulate groups like the Stones and the Who and still be on the road? "No," Kiedis said flatly. "No." Why? "Because I think the vision right now is limited more to the present," Flea said.
14th February 2007 09:20 PM
texile
quote:
sirmoonie wrote:
In all seriousness, who has ever said that the Red Hot Chili Peppers were on their way to be the next Rolling Stones?



good point..
they have thier own bloated sense of thier own importance.
14th February 2007 11:11 PM
Bruno That guy is such a limited singer! Poor voice, poor entonation, poor range... he must thank God for ProTools.

RHCP is truly a mega overrated band. They have 3 or 4 nice songs and thatīs all.
15th February 2007 02:46 AM
pdog I liked them then and I like them now...
I wish they weren't so popular, but, whatdya gonna do...
nobody, was making the kinda of music they were 25 years ago, at least not in the punk scene. They kinda came on the heels of Gang Of Four, but they were way more funkier. you can here The George clinton influence, he even produced them, but they had so much LA Post Punk in them... Of all the bands that came out of the smoggy hell hole... I'm just happy as hell that not only are they around, but that a bunch of peole are bitching about them in 2007...
One thing that really can't be disputed... Flea is one of the best living bass players. Hillel Slovak was an amzing guitar player, and Frusciante is also amazingly talented.
There best work was with Hillel... Him, Flea and anthony were friends at a very early age... One thing they got is time together, and i;m glad they carried on, I didn't think they would be any good. I saw a show in SF in 1989 at The Filmore, right before they released Mothers Milk. it stil to this day is in my top 10 of best shows I've seen. I haven't seen them live since, but I still love the music. I can go see The Stones in an Arena, but not The Peppers...
15th February 2007 02:56 AM
Jumacfly
quote:
Bruno wrote:
That guy is such a limited singer! Poor voice, poor entonation, poor range... he must thank God for ProTools.

RHCP is truly a mega overrated band. They have 3 or 4 nice songs and thatīs all.



Bullshit...or jealousy may be.
Stadium Arcadium is a great record with nearly 14 hits.
Creativity,Melodies,great guitar solos (where are they on the lame and poor ABB???) Just listen to "Especially in Michigan", "Stadium Arcadium" or "Turn it again" if you re not convinced.

And I don't talk about "Blood Sugar SEx Magic", one of the best records of the 90's.
15th February 2007 03:38 AM
Homercles I couldn't care less what the Chili's think of the Stones. I love the Stones and I love the Chili's - there's enough space for both of them in my life. No point getting pissed about AK's attitude towards bands like the Stones, coz the Stone's have all probably made similar comments in their lifetime.
15th February 2007 03:39 AM
Jumacfly
quote:
Homercles wrote:
I couldn't care less what the Chili's think of the Stones. I love the Stones and I love the Chili's - there's enough space for both of them in my life. No point getting pissed about AK's attitude towards bands like the Stones, coz the Stone's have all probably made similar comments in their lifetime.



Well said!

ps: 1974, ronnie at kilburn theatre
15th February 2007 03:40 AM
pdog
quote:
Homercles wrote:
I couldn't care less what the Chili's think of the Stones. I love the Stones and I love the Chili's - there's enough space for both of them in my life. No point getting pissed about AK's attitude towards bands like the Stones, coz the Stone's have all probably made similar comments in their lifetime.



Brilliance and stupidity are what I love about rock and roll!
15th February 2007 04:26 AM
Jumacfly
quote:
pdog wrote:


Brilliance and stupidity are what I love about rock and roll!



that s also why we love rocks off
15th February 2007 04:47 AM
Gazza
quote:
sirmoonie wrote:
In all seriousness, who has ever said that the Red Hot Chili Peppers were on their way to be the next Rolling Stones?



well, reading the article it's quite obvious that he actually didn't say or imply anything of the sort. He was merely responding to the question by emphasising how different they were as a unit.
15th February 2007 05:07 AM
pdog
quote:
Gazza wrote:


well, reading the article it's quite obvious that he actually didn't say or imply anything of the sort. He was merely responding to the question by emphasising how different they were as a unit.



Did The Peppers share the bill with G n R, opening for The Stones in LA 1989?
15th February 2007 08:48 AM
Homercles Speaking of G n R where the Bugucki is Chinese friggin' Democracy?
15th February 2007 10:42 AM
Factory Girl YAWN
15th February 2007 10:44 AM
Saint Sway
quote:
texile wrote:
"They don't seem to have a real band unity."



last I checked they've been together for nearly 50 years

not bad for a bunch of blokes with no real band unity
15th February 2007 11:06 AM
gimmekeef Is this the turd that wore a diaper on stage?....nuff said
15th February 2007 11:08 AM
Saint Sway
quote:
texile wrote:
On becoming the next Rolling Stones: "I don't know that they enjoy the process as much."



15th February 2007 01:47 PM
texile i liked them too -
their music was fresh for back then...
they mined that white-boy funk....and i love flea.
but keidis still can't write, rap or sing.
for the adulation they get from RS, they're overrated.
they have loyal fans though.
15th February 2007 02:00 PM
CULTURE VULTURE The RHCPs are brilliant in their own way. They don't tread on the Stones toes. I've never understood why music fans have to get so territorial. It's not a war or even a sports event.

15th February 2007 02:50 PM
texile
quote:
CULTURE VULTURE wrote:
The RHCPs are brilliant in their own way. They don't tread on the Stones toes. I've never understood why music fans have to get so territorial. It's not a war or even a sports event.





true, and i am guilty of it too...
but keidis' comment about wishing he would rather have lost to gnarls than the chicks irked me, with the implication being he tought the peppers were more deserving or 'daring' than the chicks.
not true and short-sighted...

flamboyant musical personas, cryptic lyrics and a funky back-beat don't make something daring.
they take thier cues from clinton with all of the above- but the man's message was political, social and off-the-wall...he had something to say and the funk just gave him a way to say it.
the peppers don't have that depth....
they're a good band, frusiante and flea being exceptional musicians but again, keidis is the mouthpeice that gets in he way.

the chicks said more with good songwriting, organic musicianship and lyrics about real people.
15th February 2007 02:57 PM
pdog
quote:
texile wrote:


true, and i am guilty of it too...
but keidis' comment about wishing he would rather have lost to gnarls than the chicks irked me, with the implication being he tought the peppers were more deserving or 'daring' than the chicks.
not true and short-sighted...

flamboyant musical personas, cryptic lyrics and a funky back-beat don't make something daring.
they take thier cues from clinton with all of the above- but the man's message was political, social and off-the-wall...he had something to say and the funk just gave him a way to say it.
the peppers don't have that depth....
they're a good band, frusiante and flea being exceptional musicians but again, keidis is the mouthpeice that gets in he way.

the chicks said more with good songwriting, organic musicianship and lyrics about real people.




But! Did you listen to them back in 1984? George Clinton sought them out to work with them then too. Noboby was making music like them in the early 80's... Name one band coming up in the 80's that did anything like The Peppers...


put this video in the context of the time, cheesey metal, hardcore thrash closed minded LA punk bands ect... Whether you like them now or then or not, this shit wasn't popular, and it sounded odd at best... I remeber the reactions, especially of the so called, trend making DIY punk rockers, who hated them.
15th February 2007 03:03 PM
pdog WARNING: Brief Nudity & Heavy Catholic Content
15th February 2007 03:07 PM
pdog One more live 1985....
dig Flea's bass break, dig Slovaks guitar break... Even this late in the post punk game, no one was even close to taking musc to this funky level and fusing white punk with black funk... Aeroshit and The Beastie Boys hadn't even hit the mainstream...
15th February 2007 03:12 PM
texile
quote:
pdog wrote:


But! Did you listen to them back in 1984? George Clinton sought them out to work with them then too. Noboby was making music like them in the early 80's... Name one band coming up in the 80's that did anything like The Peppers...


put this video in the context of the time, cheesey metal, hardcore thrash closed minded LA punk bands ect... Whether you like them now or then or not, this shit wasn't popular, and it sounded odd at best... I remeber the reactions, especially of the so called, trend making DIY punk rockers, who hated them.



i agree with all of that (and pdog, I'm usually on the same page as you are.
yes, clinton did seek them out and give them acknowledgement....
the peppers were doing something different in the context of those times...
that's why i followed them,
seen them etc...
but i just don't think they have the lyrical and musical depth to be walking in clinton's shoes ALONE.
it has to take a special flea/frusciante groove for me to get past kiedis' voice and 'rock-a-potamos' mumbo jumbo.
and when that happens, they can funk it up like no one else -
i guess i sound slightly hypocritical here -
i do a love/hate attitude toward the peppers..
love the heavy bottom and LOVE flea,
but again, keidis kills it and has always kept me from loving the peppers unconditionally....
i guess its just a matter of taste here because i could never call them a bad band, just limited for the praise they get.
15th February 2007 03:23 PM
pdog
quote:
texile wrote:


i agree with all of that (and pdog, I'm usually on the same page as you are.
yes, clinton did seek them out and give them acknowledgement....
the peppers were doing something different in the context of those times...
that's why i followed them,
seen them etc...
but i just don't think they have the lyrical and musical depth to be walking in clinton's shoes ALONE.
it has to take a special flea/frusciante groove for me to get past kiedis' voice and 'rock-a-potamos' mumbo jumbo.
and when that happens, they can funk it up like no one else -
i guess i sound slightly hypocritical here -
i do a love/hate attitude toward the peppers..
love the heavy bottom and LOVE flea,
but again, keidis kills it and has always kept me from loving the peppers unconditionally....
i guess its just a matter of taste here because i could never call them a bad band, just limited for the praise they get.



I understand the Keidis thing. I've felt it too... Either I like him or i get past it, i'm not sure. There's defintely been times when his vocals and lyrics have left me felling cheated, the music is what gets me past that, has to be.... There's also alot of stuff, most actually, the I think Keidis shines on.... Flea's backing vocals make a big difference too....
I'm happy for their success.... I've heard them called the US version of U2... i think that was only compared to b/c of album sales and concert draw.... musically, there's no comparison...
15th February 2007 03:50 PM
texile
quote:
pdog wrote:


There's defintely been times when his vocals and lyrics have left me felling cheated, the music is what gets me past that, has to be....



that's exactly how i feel....
that's why when i criticize them, i always go back to keidis.
while i think they're slightly limited musically and in terms of basic songwriting...
i get that they're a funky band, frusciante is musically limited but can be creative and that counts alot for me as a musician,
i'm more impressed with someone who plays on sheer feeling as opposed to technical wizardry.
but keidis keeps them limited as a band to really SAY something with thier music....
that's when you're talking about the greats.
with keidis as a mouthpiece, the peppers won't make that list.
and so yeah, his shortcomings and big mouth cheat flea and frusciante's gifts.


15th February 2007 05:23 PM
Soldatti I like the Peppers but Kieds is talking bullshit.
15th February 2007 08:41 PM
Egbert
quote:
pdog wrote:
But! Did you listen to them back in 1984? George Clinton sought them out to work with them then too. Noboby was making music like them in the early 80's... Name one band coming up in the 80's that did anything like The Peppers...



The Minutemen? That's not a sarcastic or smug question mark because I don't know much about the Peppers' pre-Mother's Milk music. I've always thought of the two bands as being somewhat similar though.
15th February 2007 08:47 PM
MikeyC613 I LOVE the Chilis. But Kiedis' lyrics never really have said too much. On one hand, he can write something really beautiful like "Californication" or "Under the Bridge", and his lyrics can be examined and admired. But this is also the frontman of a funk band, and the nonsensical verbal raps also fit the music. It just doesn't sound as convincing or as genuine as if it came from a James Brown or a George Clinton. White boys rarely get to use cool slang or rhyming without coming off as a joke.
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