| February 9th, 2006 07:52 PM |
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| Nellcote |
Music's Top Money Makers 2005
Peter Kafka, 02.08.06, 3:00 PM ET
Complaining about the musical guests at Super Bowl halftime shows may be a time-honored tradition, but you've got to hand it to the NFL and ABC this year: When they handed over their precious 12-minute time slot to the Rolling Stones, they were giving the people what they wanted.
That's because the Stones, wrinkles and all, were the most popular act in the United States in 2005, at least when it comes to the cash they generate. The band tops Forbes' list of last year's biggest money makers in music, generating some $168 million in record and concert sales. U2, which generated close to $150 million at cash registers and on the road, came in second; Elton John, who didn't even release a new album last year, rounds out the top ten list with $66 million.
To compile the list--which looks at the cash that musicians generated, not what actually ends up in their bank account--we used data from concert trade magazine Pollstar's list of top-grossing U.S. tours and U.S. sales information from tracking service Nielsen SoundScan. We're not counting international revenue, but everyone on this list also did well outside the U.S. -- if you can sell out Giants Stadium in New Jersey, you can sell out Wembley, too.
In the Stones' case, as with many of the acts that made this year's top ten, the fact that the group doesn't sell much music is irrelevant--their big money came almost entirely from touring. That's because even one of the year's top albums--say, the Black Eyed Peas' Monkey Business, which sold 3 million copies in the U.S.--generates an average of $13 per CD sold. But the average ticket price for a top act can easily dwarf $100 a pop--an evening with the Eagles cost an average of $108 a ticket last year--and this lets the biggest touring acts gross millions per night.
That's also why there's not much crossover between the 2005 top earners and the nominees for the 48th annual Grammy Awards. Though Mariah Carey, who is nominated for Song of the Year and Album of the Year, sold some 5 million CDs last year, she didn't hit the road, limiting her potential revenue. But Green Day, which is up for a Record of the Year nomination, sold both CDs and concert tickets, earning the group a fourth-place slot on the top earner list.
Think of the list as a quick snapshot of a music act's relative earning power, but take it with some caveats: Musicians' take of tour revenue, for instance, varies widely, and those gross numbers don't include other potential revenue from things like merchandise sales and corporate tour sponsorships and international revenue. All of the biggest touring acts also usually receive advances that can dwarf the day's gross ticket sales.
Likewise, most musicians rarely see a royalty check from individual album sales, but count instead on oversized advances that are in effect back payment from previous successes. And the list doesn't include other sources of income like movie deals, ad campaigns or, in 50 Cent's case, vitamin water sales.
The fact that most of the music businesses' most successful performers make most of their money on the road hasn't gone unnoticed by the record companies, such as Warner Music Group and Vivendi Universal's (nyse: V - news - people ) Universal Music Group, which are still dealing with an industrywide slump in CD sales. In recent years, they've tried exploring the idea of "sharing" touring revenues with their star acts. But aside from EMI Music Group, which now gets a piece of tour revenue from both British pop singer Robbie Williams and Korn, the once-hot rock group, the notion hasn't received much traction.
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| February 9th, 2006 07:54 PM |
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| pdog |
Was it over, when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? |
| February 9th, 2006 08:17 PM |
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| Riffhard |
Fat,drunk,and stupid is no way to go through life pdog!
Riffy |
| February 9th, 2006 09:10 PM |
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| lotsajizz |
Wuermer...DEAD!!
Niedemeyer...DEAD!!!
OK now |
| February 9th, 2006 10:06 PM |
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| voodoopug |
YES! This is great...Forbes is a fine publication!!!!! |
| February 9th, 2006 11:31 PM |
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| Sir Stonesalot |
Do you mind if we dance wif yo dates? |
| February 9th, 2006 11:49 PM |
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| Egbert |
Thank You God!
[Edited by Egbert] |
| February 10th, 2006 02:21 PM |
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| Jumping Jack |
Someone will be very proud and able to show his face in public again. |
| February 10th, 2006 02:27 PM |
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| nankerphelge |
It's time someone put their foot down and that foot is me! |
| February 10th, 2006 02:35 PM |
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| Joey |
" It's time someone put their foot down and
that foot is me!"
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| February 10th, 2006 02:41 PM |
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| voodoopug |
Who delivered cadavers to the alumni banquet last year? |
| February 10th, 2006 02:42 PM |
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| Fadeout_Freedom |
Are you guys playing cards? |
| February 10th, 2006 02:47 PM |
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| Joey |
I just took my afternoon shit |
| February 10th, 2006 02:48 PM |
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| Dan |
And its American money only which means U2 is still likely the worldwide leader.
Lets look at worldwide ticket sales from the Pollstar magazine year end issue:
#1 U2 3,457,850
2 Dave Matthews Band 1,231,716
3 Rolling Stones 1,209,429
4 Neil Diamond 1,166,312
5 Kenny Chesney 1,081,775 |
| February 10th, 2006 02:51 PM |
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| voodoopug |
quote:
Dan wrote:
And its American money only which means U2 is still likely the worldwide leader.
Lets look at worldwide ticket sales from the Pollstar magazine year end issue:
#1 U2 3,457,850
2 Dave Matthews Band 1,231,716
3 Rolling Stones 1,209,429
4 Neil Diamond 1,166,312
5 Kenny Chesney 1,081,775
I hate the DMB...but not as much as Macca/U2 and WIngs tribute bands. |
| February 10th, 2006 03:08 PM |
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| Joey |
http://www.independentartistscompany.com/artist.aspx?ID=22887
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| February 10th, 2006 03:11 PM |
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| voodoopug |
quote:
Joey wrote:
http://www.independentartistscompany.com/artist.aspx?ID=22887
She disgusts me! |
| February 10th, 2006 03:21 PM |
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| Saint Sway |
I recognize Townsend. But not so sure about the dude on the right. Is that Daltry? Did he get botox? |
| February 10th, 2006 03:28 PM |
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| Sir Stonesalot |
Is that a PppppLEDGE PppppIN?!?! On your UNIffffform?????? |
| February 10th, 2006 03:32 PM |
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| nankerphelge |
What kind of man hits a defenseless animal! |
| February 10th, 2006 03:38 PM |
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| Joey |
quote:
voodoopug wrote:
She disgusts me!
You make Joey cry like Baby !!!!!!!!!
Why ?!?!
WHY PUGGY ?!?!
Why .............................. ?!?!
Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?!
Jacky !
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| February 10th, 2006 03:39 PM |
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| Joey |
" I recognize Townsend. But not so sure about the dude on the right. Is that Daltry? Did he get botox? "
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| February 10th, 2006 03:41 PM |
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| voodoopug |
quote:
Joey wrote:
You make Joey cry like Baby !!!!!!!!!
Why ?!?!
WHY PUGGY ?!?!
Why .............................. ?!?!
Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?! Why ?!?!
Jacky !
she was not friendly on the show and until i see a different attitude from, he I shall assume she is an ungrateful leach |
| February 10th, 2006 03:44 PM |
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| Saint Sway |
Face it Flounder, you fucked up. You trusted us. |
| February 10th, 2006 03:45 PM |
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| Joey |
quote:
voodoopug wrote:
she was not friendly on the show and until i see a different attitude from, he I shall assume she is an ungrateful leach
For my Puggy ! ............... Enjoy ! :
http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/11320
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| February 10th, 2006 05:46 PM |
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| SweetVirginia |
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| February 10th, 2006 06:00 PM |
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| Joey |
********* It's PUB TIME !!!!!! *********
Bye Bye Kids !!!!!
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| February 10th, 2006 06:41 PM |
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| Soldatti |
quote:
Dan wrote:
And its American money only which means U2 is still likely the worldwide leader.
Lets look at worldwide ticket sales from the Pollstar magazine year end issue:
#1 U2 3,457,850
2 Dave Matthews Band 1,231,716
3 Rolling Stones 1,209,429
4 Neil Diamond 1,166,312
5 Kenny Chesney 1,081,775
U2 played 80 shows last year, the Stones 42. |
| February 10th, 2006 07:14 PM |
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| bon jovi |
quote:
Nellcote wrote:
Music's Top Money Makers 2005
Peter Kafka, 02.08.06, 3:00 PM ET
Complaining about the musical guests at Super Bowl halftime shows may be a time-honored tradition, but you've got to hand it to the NFL and ABC this year: When they handed over their precious 12-minute time slot to the Rolling Stones, they were giving the people what they wanted.
That's because the Stones, wrinkles and all, were the most popular act in the United States in 2005, at least when it comes to the cash they generate. The band tops Forbes' list of last year's biggest money makers in music, generating some $168 million in record and concert sales. U2, which generated close to $150 million at cash registers and on the road, came in second; Elton John, who didn't even release a new album last year, rounds out the top ten list with $66 million.
To compile the list--which looks at the cash that musicians generated, not what actually ends up in their bank account--we used data from concert trade magazine Pollstar's list of top-grossing U.S. tours and U.S. sales information from tracking service Nielsen SoundScan. We're not counting international revenue, but everyone on this list also did well outside the U.S. -- if you can sell out Giants Stadium in New Jersey, you can sell out Wembley, too.
In the Stones' case, as with many of the acts that made this year's top ten, the fact that the group doesn't sell much music is irrelevant--their big money came almost entirely from touring. That's because even one of the year's top albums--say, the Black Eyed Peas' Monkey Business, which sold 3 million copies in the U.S.--generates an average of $13 per CD sold. But the average ticket price for a top act can easily dwarf $100 a pop--an evening with the Eagles cost an average of $108 a ticket last year--and this lets the biggest touring acts gross millions per night.
That's also why there's not much crossover between the 2005 top earners and the nominees for the 48th annual Grammy Awards. Though Mariah Carey, who is nominated for Song of the Year and Album of the Year, sold some 5 million CDs last year, she didn't hit the road, limiting her potential revenue. But Green Day, which is up for a Record of the Year nomination, sold both CDs and concert tickets, earning the group a fourth-place slot on the top earner list.
Think of the list as a quick snapshot of a music act's relative earning power, but take it with some caveats: Musicians' take of tour revenue, for instance, varies widely, and those gross numbers don't include other potential revenue from things like merchandise sales and corporate tour sponsorships and international revenue. All of the biggest touring acts also usually receive advances that can dwarf the day's gross ticket sales.
Likewise, most musicians rarely see a royalty check from individual album sales, but count instead on oversized advances that are in effect back payment from previous successes. And the list doesn't include other sources of income like movie deals, ad campaigns or, in 50 Cent's case, vitamin water sales.
The fact that most of the music businesses' most successful performers make most of their money on the road hasn't gone unnoticed by the record companies, such as Warner Music Group and Vivendi Universal's (nyse: V - news - people ) Universal Music Group, which are still dealing with an industrywide slump in CD sales. In recent years, they've tried exploring the idea of "sharing" touring revenues with their star acts. But aside from EMI Music Group, which now gets a piece of tour revenue from both British pop singer Robbie Williams and Korn, the once-hot rock group, the notion hasn't received much traction.
Do you mean the Stones give you a share of the profits? |
| February 10th, 2006 07:27 PM |
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| Gazza |
This year we're gonna take the bull by the balls..... |
