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Topic: the Grammys historically award commercialism over artistic achievement Return to archive
February 5th, 2006 01:00 PM
Ten Thousand Motels Way out of tune
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Feb 5 2006

To see how the Grammys historically award commercialism over artistic achievement, ponder these examples:

• Country icon Hank Williams won only one Grammy, for a ghastly posthumous, pieced- together single with son Hank Williams Jr. in 1989. In contrast, country-pop pin-up Shania Twain has won five.

• Jazz saxophone innovator John Coltrane also won only a single Grammy, again posthumously. Contemporary "smooth jazz" sax stylist David Sanborn has won six.

• The Rolling Stones didn't win their two Grammys until 1994. Hard-rock kingpin Metallica has chalked up seven.

• Blues-rock innovator John Mayall, the artist who introduced the world to Eric Clapton, has yet to win a Grammy. Clapton's accumulated Grammy total: 16.

• This year, three veteran acts will receive lifetime achievement Grammys for careers that have been essentially ignored by the Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences. Among them: David Bowie (one Grammy), Merle Haggard (two Grammys) and Cream (another Clapton affiliate that hasn't won any).

• Among other major artists shunned by the Academy: Chuck Berry, Neil Young, Talking Heads, Joni Mitchell, The Police, Grateful Dead, ZZ Top, The Pretenders, Jefferson Airplane, Wilson Pickett, Bo Diddley, The Four Tops and Jelly Roll Morton. The number of lesser-known but equally valued names is almost incalculable.

February 5th, 2006 01:02 PM
speedfreakjive All awards ceremonies are irrelevant for me. Especially the VMA's.
February 5th, 2006 01:58 PM
Soldatti That rock and roll has been largely ignored by the Grammy's (aka U2's awards) over the years.

Here the list of the all time top winners:
George Solti 31
Quincy Jones 27
Pierre Boulez 25
Vladimir Horowitz 25
Stevie Wonder 22
Henry Mancini 20
U2 17
Ray Charles 17
Alison Krauss 17
Leonard Bernstein 16
Eric Clapton 16
Aretha Franklin 16
Vince Gill 16
Pat Metheny 16
Robert Shaw 16
Paul Simon/Art Garfunkel 16
Sting/Police 16
Yo-Yo Ma 15
Itzhak Perlman15
Al Schmitt 15
Chet Atkins 14
David Foster 14
James Mallinson 14
Jimmy Sturr 14

February 5th, 2006 02:48 PM
MrPleasant You mean the GRANNIES are fake?? (*shocked*) Alice Cooper certainly doesn't need no hall of fame. And Zappa is the Sartre of rock.
February 5th, 2006 02:50 PM
MrPleasant
quote:
Soldatti wrote:
Paul Simon/Art Garfunkel 16



But Bridge Over Troubled Water, fantastic collection of shitty songs, won.

Forgetaboutit. Leí mal. Lapsus mental. Por cierto, Soldatti, aprovechando de tu amabilidad, y ya que eres de Argentina, ¿conoces algún condado o ciudad o provincia llamada "Las Parejas"?
[Edited by MrPleasant]
February 5th, 2006 03:05 PM
gimmekeef The idiots at the "Academy" gave Milli Vanilli a grammy...Its a joke of an award..The fact the Stones main four cannons were not even nominated sums up the lack of credibility....
February 5th, 2006 03:13 PM
MrPleasant Dudes who never won an Oscar (a real one, not a honorary one):

Richard Burton
Peter O'Toole
Alfred Hitchcock
Stanley Kubrick
Martin Scorsese (and he never will; so stop making those boring Aviator pics and go back to the stuff you know: blood and religious guilt and stuff)
Andrey Tarkovski
Buster Keaton
Robert Altman
Mick Jagger
John Cassavettes
Gena Rowlands
Robert Bresson (too difficult, I know)
Keith Richards
February 5th, 2006 03:14 PM
MrPleasant And that is my "people I'd like to drink with" list.
February 5th, 2006 03:16 PM
Soldatti Yes, I've never been there but it's on Santa Fe (470km from BS. As.)

http://www.visitingargentina.com/mapas/mapa-santa-fe.htm
Section 18 (orange colour, you can found it there)

Sadly, I don't have more info about this town.
February 5th, 2006 03:17 PM
MrPleasant
quote:
Soldatti wrote:
Yes, I've never been there but it's on Santa Fe (470km from BS. As.)

http://www.visitingargentina.com/mapas/mapa-santa-fe.htm
Section 18 (orange colour, you can found it there)

Sadly, I don't have more info about this town.



Gracias. Resulta que un familiar probablemente vaya a vivir allá. Saludos.
February 5th, 2006 03:20 PM
Soldatti I love Santa Fe, one of the best and bigger cities of Argentina and I have some family there.
February 5th, 2006 03:23 PM
MrPleasant I know absolutely nothing about your country, except from what I've read and seen thanks to Quino. However, every place is the same for me (containing good and bad stuff), although Argentina has a lovely, intelligent aura. Good, great people.
February 5th, 2006 04:52 PM
Steamboat Bill, Jr.
quote:
MrPleasant wrote:

Richard Burton
Peter O'Toole
Alfred Hitchcock
Stanley Kubrick
Martin Scorsese (and he never will; so stop making those boring Aviator pics and go back to the stuff you know: blood and religious guilt and stuff)
Andrey Tarkovski
Buster Keaton
Robert Altman
Mick Jagger
John Cassavettes
Gena Rowlands
Robert Bresson (too difficult, I know)
Keith Richards

...that is my "people I'd like to drink with" list.


Me too.
February 5th, 2006 04:55 PM
Prodigal Son Grammies are, have been and will always be a farce. They do it for showbiz purposes. Unfortunately, they like to ruffle feathers of the ET's and Star Weekly's of the world by bestowing Grammies on artists previously ignored. Like when Steely Dan beat out Eminem and other mainstream faves. It's all about sales for them, though. Steely Dan should've at least been nominated for their earlier greatest work. Just to show you how clueless the Scammies are, although some might agree with this one knowing the anti-Fab Four bias: 1964's best new artist? Robert Goulet, slightly edging out the Beatles. Stones weren't nominated and 1965 saw Tom Jones get it (I think. He was nominated I know that for sure).
February 5th, 2006 05:04 PM
MrPleasant So: let's have a blast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW: "Cops" may be the greatest pic ever made. Just pure bliss. See here, and forget to go to your local multiplex!!!!!:

(Fuck!! The youtube.com link was erased. For the better, though; this tragedy might encourage some movie buffers to satisty their satistaction by actually purchasing a DVD for the first time in their life. I need a life. Don't see no señor Spielbergo movie; look for the Marx Bros., Fellini, Truffaut (sic?), and your life might actually change.)

THE "DRINK LIST" STANDS, THOUGH.

(BTW: Did you know that all "toreros" have small dicks? I didn't, and it has made my life miderable.)
February 5th, 2006 05:20 PM
Gazza Remember also that, for some reason, the Grammys didnt have "rock" as a category between 1966 and 1979, which would explain why a lot of the great music (including the best of the Stones' work) from the most magical period in rock history was overlooked
[Edited by Gazza]
February 5th, 2006 05:44 PM
MrPleasant Oh, yeah, I forgot: George Bush eats dick.
February 5th, 2006 05:52 PM
texile i never took the grammie seriously....and that was part of the fun watching as a kid.
remember when people like andy williams hosted? and helen reddy?
now THOSE were the days.....
its gotten too pretentious.
February 5th, 2006 07:05 PM
Gazza
quote:
Prodigal Son wrote:
1964's best new artist? Robert Goulet, slightly edging out the Beatles.


Elvis used to shoot out his TV when Robert Goulet appeared on the screen. I get similar thoughts when Bon Jovi come on the radio in work. Fortunately for everyone in my office, gun control is a bit more strict over here.
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