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Topic: Englands Newest Hit Makers Return to archive
January 18th, 2006 02:24 PM
Honky Tonk Man I'm listening to this album right now for the first time in quite a while. I honestly can't believe how good and solid it really is. There really isn't a bad number and though it's nearly all cover versions, each is done with real conviction. In an era when albums played second fiddle to singles, the Stones showed they were true masters. I'm actually listening to the UK version, which with Route 66 as the opener, I consider to be a little stronger.

What's everyone elseís opinion on their debut long player and how do you rate it? I'd rank it up there near the top. Okay, it's not up there with the big 4, but boy it's one of their best. Despite finding most of their pre-Beggars Banquet albums enjoyable, I've always thought of the 60's Stones as primarily a fantastic singles band and little more. If thatís your current viewpoint, this could be the release to make you think again.
January 18th, 2006 04:42 PM
gimmekeef I agree Honky Tonk....for newer fans listeneing to the old ones like...Newest Hitmakers..12x5 and Between The Buttons etc....really is recommended...I grew up with those and think I played teh grooves off the vinyl!
January 18th, 2006 05:44 PM
Honky Tonk Man I too grew up with the Brian Jones era. Not literary, I'm only 22. My dad used to play a cassette of their debut in the car. My dad only ever liked the 60's recordings, so it was natural that their records from that era were what I got to hear first. It was quite a while before I got round to listening to their 70's output and I certainly didn't know who Mick Taylor was! In fact, I remember borrowing Steel Wheels from the local library before I even considered listening to anything like Exile!

Iím listening to The Rolling Stones Now! at the moment. Down The Road Apiece. Need one say more?
January 18th, 2006 06:51 PM
Soldatti Almost all the 60's albums are underrated (or forgotten) among many Stones fans.
January 18th, 2006 07:02 PM
gypsymofo60 It's a great, one of THE greatest debuts from the 50s/early60s.

A piece of history.
January 18th, 2006 07:02 PM
Honky Tonk Man
quote:
Soldatti wrote:
Almost all the 60's albums are underrated (or forgotten) among many Stones fans.



I agree. It's like I stated in my initial post. Myself and I'd imagine most others, view the 1960's Stones as a great singles act and tend to forget their early albums. Who can blame us really? The Last Time, Satisfaction, Get Off Of My Cload... the list is endless and they're the reason why people stick on 40 Licks instead of Englands Newest Hit Makers or Out Of Our Heads.
January 18th, 2006 07:19 PM
gypsymofo60
quote:
Soldatti wrote:
Almost all the 60's albums are underrated (or forgotten) among many Stones fans.

Rolling Stone magazine, sometime around '97/98.
Sorry about the inaccuracy.
"All the Rolling Stones early releases are essential listening for any student of popular music."

That's 'THE ROLLING STONES'(UK)release.
12times5 (US release)
THE ROLLING STONES No.2 (UK) release
OUT OF OUR HEADS US OR UK
AFTERMATH (UK) release
BIG HITS HIGH TIDE,GREEN GRASS. (UK)release.

BEGGARS BANQUET
LET IT BLEED
STICKY FINGERS
EXILE ON MAIN STREET
SOME GIRLS All picked out for special praise.
See as far as "The rock n'roll bible is concerned, The Rolling Stones transcend mere transitory listings.

Forget your FM radio 100 songs of all time and all that.
January 18th, 2006 07:25 PM
Honky Tonk Man
quote:
gypsymofo60 wrote:
BIG HITS HIGH TIDE,GREEN GRASS. (UK)release.




Now that's a record that needs to be re-released! My goodness, that and the UK Through The Past Darkly. These are the two LP's my dad gave me to listen too and ultimately, I'd wager my whole Stones obsession wouldn't of been if it werenít for these two releases. Both are essential compilations of their early work and both far superior to the United States editions.
January 18th, 2006 07:36 PM
gypsymofo60
quote:
Honky Tonk Man wrote:



Now that's a record that needs to be re-released! My goodness, that and the UK Through The Past Darkly. These are the two LP's my dad gave me to listen too and ultimately, I'd wager my whole Stones obsession wouldn't of been if it werenít for these two releases. Both are essential compilations of their early work and both far superior to the United States editions.

...They have been re- released. Just a little rare. Oh! And a little costly. UK/Japanese collab's.
January 18th, 2006 08:02 PM
Honky Tonk Man
quote:
gypsymofo60 wrote:
...They have been re- released. Just a little rare. Oh! And a little costly. UK/Japanese collab's.




Are these 100% official? What label are they on? I think I've read about the Japanese releases somewhere before on the net, but I can't remember where. I'm quite sure that I read somewhere that The Rolling Stones No 2 is available out there too.
January 18th, 2006 08:10 PM
gypsymofo60
quote:
Honky Tonk Man wrote:



Are these 100% official? What label are they on? I think I've read about the Japanese releases somewhere before on the net, but I can't remember where. I'm quite sure that I read somewhere that The Rolling Stones No 2 is available out there too.

Two years ago a specialised retailer in this country called, wait for it---JB hifi

stocked up on these Japanese releases.
The discs were printed in Japan and they came with a certificate of limited release.
They were SACD
January 19th, 2006 12:02 AM
mark Every once in a while I'll put this on the player and plug in and play along with it. Helps remind me about what being a guitarist is all about.
January 19th, 2006 02:53 AM
rough-justice Yes I just did a Stones 60's compilation cd for a close friend, Its always the first disc I pull from the 60's to show
how fantastic they were/still are, the 3 cd set London Years(single collection) is also a treasure. Jivin Sister,Child of the moon etc GREAT STUFF!!!!!

E.N.H.M- King Bee/Route 66 should be added again to live shows fans would go nutzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
January 19th, 2006 08:53 AM
Jair Man, what coincidence. O bought the SACD edition of this album last nite. It was off in a local store, I paid only $14, it's about 5,5 USD. Can you believe it?
And I 100pct agree, it's great!
January 19th, 2006 10:22 AM
Nasty Habits One of the most important rock and roll records ever made. Redefined band dynamics, what white people could do, how hard rock could rock. And it still kills like a mahfa. Not one of the best debut records of the 50s or 60s, one of the best debut records EVER. As good,important, and definitive as RAMONES.

January 19th, 2006 11:38 AM
Honky Tonk Man Another thing worth noting about Englandís Newest Hitmakers is just how different it really is to anything they've released since. The record really does stand out from the crowd. I reckon it's the long player that most strongly represents how they'd of sounded live in '63 or '64. Even by the time The Rolling Stones No 2 was released, they'd changed their musical styling quite a bit. By the beginning of 1965 they were dabbling with soul and there own (though be it, fairly weak) compositions. That's why, in my opinion, its a strong record and far superior to what initially was to follow. It was the Stones reproducing on record what they'd been doing on stage for the past couple of years. Being the best blues band in London.

Englandís Newest Hitmakers is utterly essential. If you don't own it, not only do you appreciate great Stones music, but also you don't appreciate great music in general. Am I going over the top? No. I think I'm due a positive rant!
January 20th, 2006 07:10 AM
Ramrod I agree it's a great album. And another one that gets a bit overlooked is 'Out of Our Heads', the one with Satisfaction on it. I think this is another classic and essential addition to any good record collection. Love it.
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