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| Scot Rocks |
Who by Numbers is a kickass album, not classic vintage Who, like Whos Next, Quadrophina etc, however, the first 4 songs are a great start to any ablum, and it finishes strongly with how many friends and round and round and in the middle there is Success Story. Between these we here Pete lamenting about life, ie love, booze etc and the result is something that is great to listen too, a quality rockin album.
Voodoo Lounge is definately better than B2B, no doubt about it. B2B I have liked more and more, however VL still easilly on top and my fav. Stones album since Some Girls, followed by Dirty Work and SW.
This is a Quality Thread
Mark
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| Prodigal Son |
Marquee Moon by Television has to be one of the best "new wave" albums. Tom Verlaine is da man. Which brings me to another overlooked new wave artist I like, Graham Parker and (sometimes) the Rumour. Howlin' Wind and Squeezing Out Sparks have the kind of rock edge the older guard had (60s, early 70s class of rock) and has a nihilistic Stones attitude which I of course eat up. As we see today, the new wave/punk generation is making it's way into the RnR Hall of Fame (the Police, Talking Heads, the Clash, Elvis Costello & the Attractions). |
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| Nasty Habits |
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~AzQb wrote:
Little Jeffy Hyman just kept spinning along-- on the downlow and prolific, choosing outside projects with discernment and grace--{rememeber when he did that record with Ronnie Spector a few years ago before he died?} and never felt the need, financially or otherwise-- to put himself "out there on the wave".
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Yeah, I remember that Ronnie Spector record. The best song on it was Johnny Thunders "You Can't Put Your Arms Around a Memory". That EP was definitely a work of discernment and grace. And on a punk rock label no less!
I guess when it comes down to it, longevity don't mean shit to me. Not that I think you're in error in YoUr priorities, but for me, it's not really an issue. Most bands, I wish would break up after, oh, five records on the big push outside. But to me just because a band has only one or two good albums, it doesn't mean that they weren't a good band, or that their one or two records aren't, like, AMAZING. Rock and roll comes and goes in an instant. It's like somebody in some band said, [ugly paraphrase alert -- I am too high and comfortable to actually look up the reference. Somebody quote it exactly for me and I'll edit in in later] "I was always embarassed by that 'World's Greatest Rock and Roll Band, label. I mean, the greatest rock and roll band on a given night could be anybody. It's not always us." or something like that. Not everybody has to be a hero. SOmeTimes a record is just a good record.
Every few years, Somebody or group of Bodies are given the opportunity to step out for a couple of minutes, shake their asses, remind everybody about why rock and roll is so cool in the first place, and then bow out, leaving everyone potentially the wiser for it. If you shake your ass wide enough, sometimes even the biggest of the big dogs notice it.
You remember that Jagger interview with Nick Kent that's in David Dalton's First 20 Years book? [I actually bothered to get up and get this one]. It's on page 176 if you want to play along. It's a very punk rock interview -- It's the one where Mick claims that "Stray Cat Blues" was influenced by the Velvet Underground. WHO I CAN'T BELIEVE HAVEN'T BEEN MENTIONED IN THE WHOLE PUNK ROCK FUCKING SIX PAGE THREAD THREAD YET! He also insults the New York Dolls, and the Sex Pistols, and Aerosmith, and the Stranglers (whom he calls the worst fucking thing he's ever heard.)
Mick is obviously determined to out rock every last one of these posers. He proceeds to do just that on Some Girls and the 1978 tour. Punk rock definitely influenced the Rolling Stones to rock with nastier conviction than they had since Exile. That's just obvious.
Bridges is too a better album Maxy you big doodie head.
"Lou Reed started everything about that style of music. The whole sound and the way you play it." - Mick Jagger
NaStY
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| ~AzQb |
...and i was JUST
about to go into Reed/Underground land...Swear to God!
~thanks for the course~ |
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| gypsymofo60 |
I was never a big Velvets fan, but I certainly agree they were a major, major influence on a whole swathe of artists who have since come under the "Punk" umbrella. Isuppose their influence stretched way beyond the narrow confines of that genre....As for that Jagger interview in Dalton's book; that's one of THE interviews with a Stone..."Mick hits out at everything in sight"....I love that quote; "Oh Gawd, Aerosmith! they're just absolute rubbish- absolute bullshit......Sounds like JB! Speaking of great interviews did anyone ever see the one with Ian Stewart in the 70s when Stu talked about his fall from grace early on, and his thoughts on what he considered to be the bands best work? It was a very good, and honest interview. I can't remember who conducted it though, it was so long ago. |
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| 100 Years Ago |
gypsymofo i have an issue of Creem from about '75 which features an interview with Stu, are you referring to that one? it's indeed a great interview and he raves about how much he enjoyed the 75-76 tour, thought they were better than '72. classic
VU were great! each one of their four albums were unique, with a different sound, yet each have that unmistakable VU sound. so underappreciated in their time and influential after |
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| Sir Stonesalot |
Do you know what I got last month that EVERYONE on the face of the planet should be required to own...The Velvet Underground Box. The one with the peelable banana on the lid. Holy sweet mother of Jesus is it good.
Guess how much I paid for it.....$11.99.
No shit.
Some kinda clearance dealie. Right place right time. |
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| gypsymofo60 |
First off 100 Years Ago, I think that may have been the interview in question, was that with Lisa Robinson? It was reproduced in an Aussie rag called RAM in '76, it's where he says that in his opinion 'Lovin' Cup' was their best song. SS, that's some bargain! Who was having that clearance sale?- IDIOTS R US? Good detective work indeed! |
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| stonedinaustralia |
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gypsymofo60 wrote:
It was reproduced in an Aussie rag called RAM in '76, it's where he says that in his opinion 'Lovin' Cup' was their best song.
thnx for reminding me gmf - i've got a whole swag of old RAM's in the archives - i'll have a look and see if i've got that one - it does ring a bell with me too... |
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| gypsymofo60 |
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stonedinaustralia wrote:
thnx for reminding me gmf - i've got a whole swag of old RAM's in the archives - i'll have a look and see if i've got that one - it does ring a bell with me too...
Stoney, I'm pretty sure it was RAM, not JUKE. There may have been an article on a band called KUSH in it as well. I'm trying hard to remember when it was exactly and who was on the cover, I'm sure it was around May/June '76 there was also a right slag off on B&B being "elegantly wasted", seems Micheal Hutchence & Co. had that copy too. |
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| stonedinaustralia |
if it's '76 i should definitely have it |
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| gypsymofo60 |
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stonedinaustralia wrote:
if it's '76 i should definitely have it
If you find it let me know the date, who's on the cover etc, LOL it might be Ray Burgess, remember 'im? What a pratt! Did you get that last PM? |
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| stonedinaustralia |
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gypsymofo60 wrote:
it might be Ray Burgess, remember 'im? What a pratt! Did you get that last PM?
gmf - yes and yes
ray burgess - aargh!! - things like that shouldn't be mentioned here - esp. on this thread - 'tho burgess was one of the reasons punk (there's that word again) had to happen!!
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| corgi37 |
1st off, i dont think Creedance are ignored in as much as they are played on golden oldies stations and elevators and what not, but i meant that i dont feel they get the recognition for their contribution. I still say Neil Young owes them big time.
My beloved Who are more complicated. I dont like punk, never have, dont think much of anything, cept blues based rock. I am very narrow minded in my tastes. Hence, i think the who hit their straps around 1970 on. I love my generation, subsitute etc, but their albums are very average. Sell out is ok, for its time. The whole pirate radio stuff wore off, like, a year after it came out. ANd, if you werent in England, ya wouldnt get the joke would ya? Tommy was recorded woefully, mainly by the bands management to save money (they rushed it and used inferior/outdated equipment). I aint making that up! MY Who isnt the mod who. Its tassled jacket and boiler suit Who. With Moonie having a 2nd floor tom as a drinks tray and the big gong behind him. I think Quadrophenia is a masterpiece, but sorry, it flopped. Odds and Sods is great. I have often said that the Stones should get Bill Wyman to sift through some unreleased treasures and get a cd out for the people (instead of waiting 5 years for 4 new songs). Who's Next is almost my vote for greatest non stones album.
it is also true that i dont think the stones hit their straps until beggars. It doesnt mean i dont like what goes before, but i just dont think Jaggers voice matured until 68. The fact that most of their live stuff dates from 68 on kind of proves my point. Satisfaction and maybe 1 other song get a go (ruby tuesday, lets spend the night together maybe). Jagger can sound pretty whiny on the really early stuff, but shit, it better than listening to the beatles or....THE KINKS!!! (there, i said it!). I fucking hate that band too. What they doing now? Playing cruise ships with Hermans Hermits? I hate all that carnival organ, finger-bell, famous street name reference, accentuate the accent, themed album shit. Fuck, i suppose some people like Pink Floyd too! Man, dont get me started on them.
Bridges vs Voodoo is intriguing. I have always voodoo had too many songs, and some that shouldnt have been on it, and some that should. The Storm should have been on, and maybe, jump on top of me or So young (just for fun). Brand new car can go bye-bye, mean dispostion - ahh, take it or leave it. New faces? blergh! Now, b2b. Top idea. The Stones go electronica. Brilliant sounds, but a typical mistake by the band. Wrong choice of 1st single. Might as well get juiced should have been 1st single, and anyone seen my baby scratched from the history books all together. I think 1 Keith song could be ditched. No, both of them. ANd only include a Keith song if he promises to sing a song that is more than 10 beats per minute. his Tom Waites fetish must surely nearly be over.
I also prefer 80's porn stars to the modern ones, pubic hair on chicks should be banned, aussie rules footy is so much better that any other footy, sheryl crow has brilliant feet for a 40 year old skank, christina is the a real slut, britney just pretends, Victoria Bitter is better than Fosters Lager and the 2nd Melbourne show on 27 Feb will become known by all the Stones crew/band/management as "the tours best show".
The thoughts of Chairman Corgi are provided courtesy of $8.59 cask wine (with a dash of orange juice). |
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| Gazza |
back to Joe Strummer again (LOL) heres some info on his unfinished album:
JOE STRUMMER'S LAST ALBUM COULD BE RELEASED IN MAY
Saturday 11 January 2003 1:57pm
Joe Strummer's last album could be released as early as May, according to reports.
Strummer And The Mescaleros had been working on the follow-up to Global A Go-Go in the weeks preceding his death in December.
His bandmates will spend the coming weeks working through the progress so far, deciding how many new songs were committed to tape in a releasable form.
MTV news reports that a new record could be released in May, and will compile these sessions with songs he had been working on outside of The Mescaleros.
On their final tour of the UK last year, Strummer had been performing a number of unreleased songs, with working titles including Get Down Moses, Guitar Slinger Man, Dakar Meantime and Coma Girl.
Strummer was also scheduled to team up with Bono to record a new song titled 48864 for the Nelson Mandela-organised AIDS Awareness concert in South Africa.
(c) Copyright Ananova Ltd 2003, all rights reserved
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| Maxlugar |
I have Green Day's "Dookie"
I rather like it.
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| sasca |
In the history of punk don't forget groups like the Flies, who did their best to screw Syd Barrett. Bastards. Mclaren wanted Syd to produce the Pistols. |
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| sasca |
Oh, and the Who I love are the the early mod Who and the mid-sixties Carnaby Street period. Beautiful melodies played with the energy of an atom bomb. How can anyone dismiss 'Pictures of Lily' and 'I Can't Explain'? By the end of the sixties the groups sound was becoming bloated.
There were plenty of punk groups who did not sing in English. Any of the boards French/Spanish etc. speakers care to suggest some?
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| Dr. Frankenstone |
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corgi37 wrote:
I dont like punk, never have, dont think much of anything, cept blues based rock. I am very narrow minded in my tastes.
Hmmmppph!!! Grrrhhhh...?!!!!! |
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| gypsymofo60 |
Corgi, I agree with alot of what you say actually, and you should be commended, not condemned for airing your views. Personally I'd rather read a post that is honest than just another letter to Sycophant City. The Who are amongst my favourite 5 artists of all time, but you are right when you say that they were primarily a singles band until 'Who's Next'. Alot of the singles were brilliant, but alot of the other stuff was crap, pure& simple! Boris The Spider???? On The Stones not hitting their straps until Banquet; I concur, although I like their early stuff Jagger's voice as you say didn't fully mature until Banquet. I also agree with you on Pink Floyd, if they aren't THE most overrated, pretencious bunch of doodlers to ever grace a recording studio, I'll go he. They should stuck to designing record covers for other people. Still I don't understand your complete dismissal of punk as a musical force...........Aussie football????? Aerial ping-pong! VB= best Aussie beer, Fosters= dingoe piss! The Rolling Stones all concerts at The Tennis Centre= Sheer stupidity!...Hope you enjoy the show. |
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| Fiji Joe |
Max Lugar wrote:
"I have Green Day's "Dookie"
Yeah, I had the problem once...what you need to do is cut red meat out of your diet...
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| gypsymofo60 |
RE: Hey kid ya want some candy?.....Hey little girl! Come & see the puppies. |
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| Prodigal Son |
Damnit, leave Pete alone. I'm sure he isn't a peodophile. He just is a crusader against child porn. But studying it to know more was a big risk. Come on, he ain't no Gary Glitter!
And damn, it takes guts to publicly admit you like adult porn and have USED it for many years... Pete's always been an honest guy. Now that is cool. But the allegations are not.
Sexually abused when he was 5 or 6? The whole Uncle Ernie incident of Tommy was not so alien to him after all.
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| Dr. Frankenstone |
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Prodigal Son wrote:
I'm sure he isn't a peodophile. He just is a crusader against child porn.
You are joking right?
He got busted using his credit card to access those filthy sites, and that was the first thing he came up with. How f**king ridiculous. If he hadn't been caught red-handed, I'm sure you would have never heard him say..."Oh yes, as part of my research to fight this ungodly crime, I spent money with my credit card to access these sites in the wee hours of the morning, studiously taking notes like a true crusader would"!!!
Get serious Pete!!! You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time!!! |
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