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Topic: Football/Cleveland Browns Appreciation Thread pt 2 Return to archive Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
2nd November 2007 03:22 PM
PartyDoll MEG any team that has this stud muffin (yes winslow..another one of you) can't be all bad...

2nd November 2007 03:47 PM
Nellcote So, Meg, using your photographic evidence, any 305 lb linebacker hasn't got a chance, eh?
2nd November 2007 06:08 PM
WinslowStud NBA basketball...

everyone knows it is for lazy overpaid frat boys who beat their wives and steal cars.

Real men play football. Browns football.


moonie's bedroom:
2nd November 2007 06:11 PM
PartyDoll MEG If they look like this? What do you think, Nelly?

A 305 lb stud muffin would kill little ole me....

2nd November 2007 06:51 PM
Throwaway Some Guy??

http://www.ajc.com/wireless/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/11/01/falconstix_1102.html

Falcons' troubles pile on, force blackout
Vick fallout hurting team's business

By TIM TUCKER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 11/01/07

In a few tumultuous months, the Atlanta Falcons have gone from a franchise that claimed to have 90,000 fans on a season-ticket waiting list to a franchise that won't be allowed to televise this week's game because of insufficient ticket demand.

The Falcons said Thursday that their game against the San Francisco 49ers at the Georgia Dome on Sunday will be blacked out on Atlanta television because it did not sell out 72 hours in advance as required by the NFL's television policy.

The game will be the Falcons' first in six years to be blacked out, and it is the latest indication of the jarring hit that the team's business has taken in the aftermath of the Michael Vick dogfighting scandal.

According to the Falcons' 2007 media guide, published before quarterback Vick was indicted and pleaded guilty, the team had a season-ticket waiting list of "over 90,000 fans." But the team now says it has "gone through" that list and isn't sure how many, if any, of the names on it remain in the market for tickets.

"We won't know until next year whether it's zero or 50,000," said Dick Sullivan, the Falcons' executive vice president of marketing.

What is clear is that the Falcons, losers of six of seven games this season, couldn't find the 3,000 or so buyers they needed this week to keep alive their streak of selling out 43 consecutive regular-season games.

Sunday's game will be the first to be blacked out on Atlanta television since Arthur Blank bought the team -- and Vick became the starting quarterback -- in 2002. Longer term, the difficulty selling tickets could foreshadow the challenge the Falcons will face next year when they try to re-up their season-ticket base.

Under the NFL's 34-year-old TV policy, a team's home games cannot be shown on television within 75 miles of its stadium unless all tickets -- not including suites and club seats -- are sold three days in advance.

While Major League Baseball, the NBA and the NHL routinely allow games to be televised in local markets even if they fall far short of sellouts, the NFL strictly enforces its policy.

"The purpose of the policy is to ensure teams' ability to sell ... game tickets, as well as to make televised games more attractive to viewers," NFL spokesman Dan Masonson said. "Playing in full stadiums ... is an important part of what makes NFL games an exciting and special entertainment event, both live and on television."

Masonson said only 3 percent of NFL games (seven of 256) were blacked out last season, down from 33 percent a decade earlier. Through last weekend, he said, five games had been blacked out this season -- two in Jacksonville (5-2), two in St. Louis (0-8) and one in Oakland (2-5).

Sunday's blackout here will be reminiscent of the pre-Blank, pre-Vick days, when Falcons games routinely failed to sell out. The last Falcons game blacked out here was on Dec. 23, 2001.

Fox, which was to have televised the Falcons-49ers game here, said it instead will show the Green Bay-Kansas City game in this market.

When Blank bought the Falcons, one of his first priorities was to ensure local telecasts of all the games.

He initially considered putting a tarp over large expanses of seats in the upper deck of the Georgia Dome so they would be taken out of the ticket inventory and not subject to the NFL's blackout requirements. The league allows such a strategy, but it requires that the seats go unsold for an entire season, not just select games.

So Blank instead famously slashed ticket prices in the upper deck to as little as $10 per game in 2002, starting the Falcons on their sellout streak that lasted until this week.

"It's sort of a unique circumstance we're dealing with here," Sullivan said. "On one hand, we sold more season tickets this year than any year in the history of the franchise. On the other hand, the demand for single-game tickets is lower than any other year."

Not coincidentally, season-ticket sales were completed before Vick's indictment was handed down. Single-game tickets went on sale thereafter.

The Falcons sold a franchise-record 60,000-plus season tickets, Sullivan said, by offering seats to a large number of people on the waiting list. Some fans have told the Journal-Constitution that they were offered season tickets after being on the list for two or three years. Sullivan said he does not know how far down the list the Falcons got, but he said many people passed up tickets after learning the available seats were in the upper corners of the stadium.

People remain on the list unless they pass up tickets several times, Sullivan said, and will be offered available tickets again next year.

Single-game tickets also have been offered to people on the wait list, he said.

Once season-ticket sales were cut off, the Falcons had about 5,000 tickets to sell for each home game this season, Sullivan said. They sold those tickets for the first three games, against Carolina, Houston and the New York Giants.

Single-game sales often get a boost from fans of the visiting team -- particularly if that team is relatively close to Atlanta or has a strong national following. The 49ers

do not stir sales here, Sullivan noted.

The Falcons said tickets remain available for the four home games after Sunday. Sullivan said 2,000 tickets remain for the Nov. 18 game against Tampa Bay and 1,100 for the Thanksgiving Night game against Indianapolis.

He said he believes both can sell out.

The Falcons' struggles on and off the field in the wake of the Vick case raise longer-term questions about the team's sales prospects for next season and beyond.

"Unless something momentous happens -- a good winning streak or signing a really exciting player to build hope -- I'd expect a big falloff" in season ticket sales, said longtime Atlanta sports marketer Bob Hope, president of Hope-Beckham.

Sullivan insisted he does not see the current difficulties as a harbinger.

"This is a very unique circumstance," he said. "You have a commitment from the organization ... that we will do everything we can to [put] the best product we can on the field. What happened this past summer obviously didn't allow the time to be able to react for the 2007 season.

"What we are going to do in 2008 is totally different than 2007."
2nd November 2007 08:25 PM
Fiji Joe When you're rebounding in traffic, make use of your elbows to effectively box out your opponent. Also, don't be afraid to use your rump. Statistics show that only one in ten basketball players sucks cock. So the odds of you getting goosed are minimal.

3rd November 2007 11:35 AM
gimmekeef
quote:
Throwaway wrote:
Some Guy??

http://www.ajc.com/wireless/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/11/01/falconstix_1102.html

Falcons' troubles pile on, force blackout
Vick fallout hurting team's business

By TIM TUCKER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 11/01/07

In a few tumultuous months, the Atlanta Falcons have gone from a franchise that claimed to have 90,000 fans on a season-ticket waiting list to a franchise that won't be allowed to televise this week's game because of insufficient ticket demand.

The Falcons said Thursday that their game against the San Francisco 49ers at the Georgia Dome on Sunday will be blacked out on Atlanta television because it did not sell out 72 hours in advance as required by the NFL's television policy.

The game will be the Falcons' first in six years to be blacked out, and it is the latest indication of the jarring hit that the team's business has taken in the aftermath of the Michael Vick dogfighting scandal.

According to the Falcons' 2007 media guide, published before quarterback Vick was indicted and pleaded guilty, the team had a season-ticket waiting list of "over 90,000 fans." But the team now says it has "gone through" that list and isn't sure how many, if any, of the names on it remain in the market for tickets.

"We won't know until next year whether it's zero or 50,000," said Dick Sullivan, the Falcons' executive vice president of marketing.

What is clear is that the Falcons, losers of six of seven games this season, couldn't find the 3,000 or so buyers they needed this week to keep alive their streak of selling out 43 consecutive regular-season games.

Sunday's game will be the first to be blacked out on Atlanta television since Arthur Blank bought the team -- and Vick became the starting quarterback -- in 2002. Longer term, the difficulty selling tickets could foreshadow the challenge the Falcons will face next year when they try to re-up their season-ticket base.

Under the NFL's 34-year-old TV policy, a team's home games cannot be shown on television within 75 miles of its stadium unless all tickets -- not including suites and club seats -- are sold three days in advance.

While Major League Baseball, the NBA and the NHL routinely allow games to be televised in local markets even if they fall far short of sellouts, the NFL strictly enforces its policy.

"The purpose of the policy is to ensure teams' ability to sell ... game tickets, as well as to make televised games more attractive to viewers," NFL spokesman Dan Masonson said. "Playing in full stadiums ... is an important part of what makes NFL games an exciting and special entertainment event, both live and on television."

Masonson said only 3 percent of NFL games (seven of 256) were blacked out last season, down from 33 percent a decade earlier. Through last weekend, he said, five games had been blacked out this season -- two in Jacksonville (5-2), two in St. Louis (0-8) and one in Oakland (2-5).

Sunday's blackout here will be reminiscent of the pre-Blank, pre-Vick days, when Falcons games routinely failed to sell out. The last Falcons game blacked out here was on Dec. 23, 2001.

Fox, which was to have televised the Falcons-49ers game here, said it instead will show the Green Bay-Kansas City game in this market.

When Blank bought the Falcons, one of his first priorities was to ensure local telecasts of all the games.

He initially considered putting a tarp over large expanses of seats in the upper deck of the Georgia Dome so they would be taken out of the ticket inventory and not subject to the NFL's blackout requirements. The league allows such a strategy, but it requires that the seats go unsold for an entire season, not just select games.

So Blank instead famously slashed ticket prices in the upper deck to as little as $10 per game in 2002, starting the Falcons on their sellout streak that lasted until this week.

"It's sort of a unique circumstance we're dealing with here," Sullivan said. "On one hand, we sold more season tickets this year than any year in the history of the franchise. On the other hand, the demand for single-game tickets is lower than any other year."

Not coincidentally, season-ticket sales were completed before Vick's indictment was handed down. Single-game tickets went on sale thereafter.

The Falcons sold a franchise-record 60,000-plus season tickets, Sullivan said, by offering seats to a large number of people on the waiting list. Some fans have told the Journal-Constitution that they were offered season tickets after being on the list for two or three years. Sullivan said he does not know how far down the list the Falcons got, but he said many people passed up tickets after learning the available seats were in the upper corners of the stadium.

People remain on the list unless they pass up tickets several times, Sullivan said, and will be offered available tickets again next year.

Single-game tickets also have been offered to people on the wait list, he said.

Once season-ticket sales were cut off, the Falcons had about 5,000 tickets to sell for each home game this season, Sullivan said. They sold those tickets for the first three games, against Carolina, Houston and the New York Giants.

Single-game sales often get a boost from fans of the visiting team -- particularly if that team is relatively close to Atlanta or has a strong national following. The 49ers

do not stir sales here, Sullivan noted.

The Falcons said tickets remain available for the four home games after Sunday. Sullivan said 2,000 tickets remain for the Nov. 18 game against Tampa Bay and 1,100 for the Thanksgiving Night game against Indianapolis.

He said he believes both can sell out.

The Falcons' struggles on and off the field in the wake of the Vick case raise longer-term questions about the team's sales prospects for next season and beyond.

"Unless something momentous happens -- a good winning streak or signing a really exciting player to build hope -- I'd expect a big falloff" in season ticket sales, said longtime Atlanta sports marketer Bob Hope, president of Hope-Beckham.

Sullivan insisted he does not see the current difficulties as a harbinger.

"This is a very unique circumstance," he said. "You have a commitment from the organization ... that we will do everything we can to [put] the best product we can on the field. What happened this past summer obviously didn't allow the time to be able to react for the 2007 season.

"What we are going to do in 2008 is totally different than 2007."



This is the best thing to happen to Atlanta since Feb 06 Stones rockin Phillips Arena....
4th November 2007 03:59 PM
Nellcote Norv Turner turtleing right on queue.....
4th November 2007 04:09 PM
Nellcote OH OH! Detroit is running up the score vs. Denver.
How can they, this is the NFL, where you have to go easy on your opponent, not show them up, let the opponent go home with a smile, buy the team ice cream after the game, right?
4th November 2007 04:24 PM
robpop My second favorite team is quietly on a roll. Brett Farve not read to be led out to pasture. Having a great season.
4th November 2007 04:37 PM
sirmoonie The Chargers are weak sisters.

Did A. Peterson just set the single game rushing record?
4th November 2007 04:50 PM
robpop Yup. 296 yards.
4th November 2007 04:50 PM
WinslowStud Peterson 296 yards in one game. his second 200+ rushing game of the season...and he's the only rookie ever to do that.

cooperstown awaits.
4th November 2007 04:57 PM
robpop Matt Hasselbeck will crush all dreams.
4th November 2007 05:47 PM
WinslowStud it's only halftime.

anderson will lead us to glory.

winslow was held at the goal line, 'sall i'm sayin'.
4th November 2007 06:05 PM
robpop
quote:
WinslowStud wrote:

anderson will lead us to glory.





4th November 2007 06:54 PM
Left Shoe Shuffle
quote:
WinslowStud wrote:
Peterson 296 yards in one game. his second 200+ rushing game of the season...and he's the only rookie ever to do that.

cooperstown awaits.


Uh, that'd be Canton.
Just a quick motorcycle ride down I-77 from the Dawg Pound.

Check out your old man's bust while you're there...
4th November 2007 06:57 PM
Left Shoe Shuffle
quote:
robpop wrote:




Elton John's a Browns fan.
Who knew?
4th November 2007 07:46 PM
WinslowStud WHO'S YOUR GOD NOW ROB???

OOOOOOHHHHHH, YEEEAAAHHHHH!!!!



browns-pats AFC championship, here we come.
4th November 2007 10:23 PM
robpop
quote:
WinslowStud wrote:
WHO'S YOUR GOD NOW ROB???

OOOOOOHHHHHH, YEEEAAAHHHHH!!!!



browns-pats AFC championship, here we come.



Come on Winsy....Next week is your Super Bowl. To be the man you gotta beat the man.

I must say Monday Night Football Steelers against the real Browns tomorrow.
[Edited by robpop]
4th November 2007 10:28 PM
robpop
quote:
Left Shoe Shuffle wrote:


Elton John's a Browns fan.
Who knew?



Do I have to say anything more?
5th November 2007 02:29 AM
Prodigal Son No one likes Cowboys fans but I still gotta represent. Sorry bout all that, Eagles but SEASON OVER. It's just a little revenge for when we fucked up our division title hopes with two choke jobs to you guys last year (1st was all Bledsoe, 2nd was all Garcia).
5th November 2007 10:14 AM
gimmekeef
quote:
Prodigal Son wrote:
No one likes Cowboys fans but I still gotta represent. Sorry bout all that, Eagles but SEASON OVER. It's just a little revenge for when we fucked up our division title hopes with two choke jobs to you guys last year (1st was all Bledsoe, 2nd was all Garcia).



Coyboys are playing well and will be a factor in NFC title game.Watch next year..They have 2 first rounders (thanks to Brownies)..Watch this move..ya heard it hear first..Dallas trades up in first round to grab McFadden the back from Arkansas who ripped off 330 yds Sat.Jerry Jones is Arkansas alumn and Dallas is looking for the next Emmitt Smith for the return to glory days....Developing....
5th November 2007 10:22 AM
Fiji Joe
quote:
gimmekeef wrote:


Coyboys are playing well and will be a factor in NFC title game.Watch next year..They have 2 first rounders (thanks to Brownies)..Watch this move..ya heard it hear first..Dallas trades up in first round to grab McFadden the back from Arkansas who ripped off 330 yds Sat.Jerry Jones is Arkansas alumn and Dallas is looking for the next Emmitt Smith for the return to glory days....Developing....



That would be a total waste of a draft pick. I'm not big on RBs unless you've already got a solid O-Line. A replacement for Flozell Adams might be a good idea. But in any event. they already have one of the best running backs in the game in Barber. They'd be better served drafting two corners in the first round and moving T. Newman to safety.
5th November 2007 10:33 AM
gimmekeef I agree..if your talkin most backs..Look at Peterson for Vikes....Mc Fadden will be the next super back....
5th November 2007 10:40 AM
Fiji Joe
quote:
gimmekeef wrote:
I agree..if your talkin most backs..Look at Peterson for Vikes....Mc Fadden will be the next super back....



He'll be the next Reggie Bush...Jury is still out on Peterson...there was a knock on him in college...we'll see if he can finish the season
5th November 2007 10:50 AM
gimmekeef Time will tell...and yes Peterson has to stay healthy..but he just ripped 296 yds off a pretty good Charger defense.McFadden I think wont Bush out...again we'll just have to see.My point about Cowboys was Jones' penchant for makin a splash..I didnt say it was a great possible move..but one he'll think about...Defense is always a better use of picks I agree...
5th November 2007 10:54 AM
Some Guy Hey, the Falcons won!!
5th November 2007 10:57 AM
Fiji Joe
quote:
gimmekeef wrote:
Time will tell...and yes Peterson has to stay healthy..but he just ripped 296 yds off a pretty good Charger defense.McFadden I think wont Bush out...again we'll just have to see.My point about Cowboys was Jones' penchant for makin a splash..I didnt say it was a great possible move..but one he'll think about...Defense is always a better use of picks I agree...



Right...not beyond jerry jones to make that move for McFadden...a waste of a pick IMO...what did the Browns get for that first round pick again?
5th November 2007 02:16 PM
Starbuck peterson is all the rage!

best RB since jim brown, says KFAN analysit paul allen.

You're just jealous!
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