| January 9th, 2006 10:31 AM |
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| CHIEFMOON |
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glencar wrote:
Yes, the Dems' demise is a thing of beauty! Look for Pelosi to be tossed overboard next year.
Yo, you got it wrong.
I was refering to the empty skin-bag and his cohort of thugs... |
| January 9th, 2006 10:32 AM |
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| glencar |
The one who most Americans like? That one? |
| January 9th, 2006 10:45 AM |
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| jb |
I am a liberal. pro-chocie, pro-affirmative action, anti-post invasion , anti-tax breaks or the rich democrat, but lets not deny reality, outr party should be making major gains under bushes horrendous policies, yet, we are stagnanting with a void in leadership...............Delay stepped down b/c they9Reps) were smart enough to get rid of him before 2006 mid-term elections..they make all the right moves and we dems make all the wrong ones..... |
| January 9th, 2006 10:46 AM |
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| glencar |
Exactly, Joshy! Come join the winning team! |
| January 9th, 2006 11:10 AM |
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| Jumping Jack |
The Dems are anti-semetic and can't bring themselves to nominate Lieberman who is clearly their most qualified candidate and the only one capable of attracting socially liberal, financially conservative Republicans. |
| January 9th, 2006 11:17 AM |
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| jb |
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Jumping Jack wrote:
The Dems are anti-semetic and can't bring themselves to nominate Lieberman who is clearly their most qualified candidate and the only one capable of attracting socially liberal, financially conservative Republicans.
Some in the once dem jewish strong hold are anti-Israel!!!! |
| January 9th, 2006 02:29 PM |
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| lotsajizz |
George Washington was right and only appears more so every freakin' day.......
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| January 9th, 2006 03:44 PM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
Chavez isn't such a bad sort. A bit mis-guided maybe. It doesn't seem like either major party in the US is going to field a decent candidate in 2006. Truth, Honesty, Love, Justice, Goodness, Mercy etc. are concepts that the politicians just don't understand. They like money, power, control, lucre, lust....shit like that....they understand.
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| January 9th, 2006 03:54 PM |
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| jb |
quote:
Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Chavez isn't such a bad sort. A bit mis-guided maybe. It doesn't seem like either major party in the US is going to field a decent candidate in 2006. Truth, Honesty, Love, Justice, Goodness, Mercy etc. are concepts that the politicians just don't understand. They like money, power, control, lucre, lust....shit like that....they understand.
Chavez' comments about my people were truly disgusting.....all these so-called leaders from the Middle-east to Chavez in South America always use our people for their countries woes...........truly sickening. |
| January 9th, 2006 04:04 PM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
"our people"....
Whose people? we're all cut out the same cloth. All people.
Maybe it's best that "humans" don't last forever. We don't seem to be viable....one sad mess I'd say. |
| January 9th, 2006 04:13 PM |
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| Jumping Jack |
"Chavez isn't such a bad sort."
Not unless it is your land, business and money he is stealing for himself. Perhaps Belafonte and all the dumbasses that defend this guy should find up want he is up to. I wonder how Belafonte would feel if it was his property and life's work being taken by Chavez?
The blame America first crowd includes some of the most poorly informed people on the planet. |
| January 9th, 2006 04:28 PM |
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| lotsajizz |
quote:
jb wrote:
Chavez' comments about my people were truly disgusting.....
my people are US citizens/Americans
what is YOUR definition of "my people"?
seems to be a little broader than mine
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| January 9th, 2006 04:29 PM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
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Jumping Jack wrote:
I wonder how Belafonte would feel if it was his property and life's work being taken by Chavez?
There's the rub. Who's life's work is being taken away? The cartel capitalists (who hide behind an American flag)or the peasants who worked the land. The "American capitalist" has been bleeding those people dry for at least 50 or 60 years. When General Butler ran the Marine Corps back in the early part of this century he saw what was going on. People like Butler and Gandhi who have the ability to call a spade a spade are rare people indeed. Reality ain't fucking pretty.
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| January 9th, 2006 04:31 PM |
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| lotsajizz |
Smedley was a man of vision
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| January 9th, 2006 04:41 PM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
Gen Smedley D. Butler USMC
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| January 9th, 2006 05:01 PM |
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| monkey_man |
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Jumping Jack wrote:
Not unless it is your land, business and money he is stealing for himself.
Please provide a source for this claim. |
| January 9th, 2006 05:24 PM |
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| Riffhard |
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Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
There's the rub. Who's life's work is being taken away? The cartel capitalists (who hide behind an American flag)or the peasants who worked the land. The "American capitalist" has been bleeding those people dry for at least 50 or 60 years.
You know MM. Whether you like it or not capitalism has helped improve litterally billions of people's lives. Not just the rich either. Capitalists are the same people that have donated more to humanitarian relief than any communist,despot,or socialist state has ever dreamed of. It's easy to cast dispersions on those evil "capitalist",but it's a strawman argument. Hey there is nothing in this world keeping you from becoming a very rich capitalist yourself! You live in a nation where it is easier to make fat cash than any other country in the world!
Try living in Venezuala after a decade of Chavez's communist rule. There is a very real reason that the USA is still the most sought after visa in the world. It's called opportunity,and that opportunity is only viable because we embrace capitalism,and through it we have helped the world immeasurably.
Communism is the most corrupt form of goverment ever. It looks great on paper,but once it's put into practice the human element quickly proves it's ultimate failures.
Chavez needs a bullet. Simple as that. For those here are defending him you are only showing that you know very little of the man or his whacked out ideas. He's a nut. Read up.
Riffy |
| January 9th, 2006 05:24 PM |
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| Riffhard |
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Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
There's the rub. Who's life's work is being taken away? The cartel capitalists (who hide behind an American flag)or the peasants who worked the land. The "American capitalist" has been bleeding those people dry for at least 50 or 60 years.
You know MM. Whether you like it or not capitalism has helped improve litterally billions of people's lives. Not just the rich either. Capitalists are the same people that have donated more to humanitarian relief than any communist,despot,or socialist state has ever dreamed of. It's easy to cast dispersions on those evil "capitalist",but it's a strawman argument. Hey there is nothing in this world keeping you from becoming a very rich capitalist yourself! You live in a nation where it is easier to make fat cash than any other country in the world!
Try living in Venezuala after a decade of Chavez's communist rule. There is a very real reason that the USA is still the most sought after visa in the world. It's called opportunity,and that opportunity is only viable because we embrace capitalism,and through it we have helped the world immeasurably.
Communism is the most corrupt form of goverment ever. It looks great on paper,but once it's put into practice the human element quickly proves it's ultimate failures.
Chavez needs a bullet. Simple as that. For those here are defending him you are only showing that you know very little of the man or his whacked out ideas. He's a nut. Read up.
Riffy |
| January 9th, 2006 05:33 PM |
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| monkey_man |
Don't let anyone on the board make up your mind. Read up for yourself! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Chavez |
| January 9th, 2006 05:39 PM |
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| lotsajizz |
oh yea...Wilkipedia...it must be true there
OK now
Cazart!!
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| January 9th, 2006 05:46 PM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
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Riffhard wrote:
Chavez needs a bullet. Simple as that.
Are you advocating that the US send a hit man down to take care of him? Is that our policy? Don't like 'em take 'em out....with a bullet? I'm glad we don't have nuclear weapons.....Oh I forgot...lol. |
| January 9th, 2006 05:59 PM |
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| Riffhard |
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Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
Are you advocating that the US send a hit man down to take care of him? Is that our policy? Don't like 'em take 'em out....with a bullet? I'm glad we don't have nuclear weapons.....Oh I forgot...lol.
Not at all! I'm just stating the obvious. I don't think the bullet need be fired from an American gun.
Riffy |
| January 9th, 2006 07:49 PM |
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| CHIEFMOON |
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Riffhard wrote:
Not at all! I'm just stating the obvious. I don't think the bullet need be fired from an American gun.
Riffy
Why is it you Neocons think asassination is the only way to deal with leaders of other countries?
Brainwashed perhaps?
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| January 9th, 2006 08:13 PM |
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| Riffhard |
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CHIEFMOON wrote:
Why is it you Neocons think asassination is the only way to deal with leaders of other countries?
Brainwashed perhaps?
[Edited by CHIEFMOON]
Firstly I'm not a neo-con. I am a conservative,and have been for some time now. The guy has already threatened to start up an arms race within Central America. He has stated on the record that he would like to see the destruction of the USA.
Why would you embrace this guy? I call it as I see it. The guy is threatening my country! I'm not advocating asassination! I simply stated that a bullet would do this guy some good. It would. Preferably he will get taken down by his own people. Not by asassinnation per se. He just needs to go. He has stated that he would like to negotiate an arms deal with Iran for fuck's sake!
This is not about conservative vs liberal. This is about the preservation of my way of life,and my country's safety. It would appear that anyone who slams Bush is good with liberals regardless of how nuts they are. Weird to me.
Brainwashed? Far from it my friend. More like informed.
Riffy |
| January 9th, 2006 08:48 PM |
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| CHIEFMOON |
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Riffhard wrote:
Firstly I'm not a neo-con. I am a conservative,and have been for some time now
Republican, conservative, neocon:
the greed, the warmongering, and pure hatred for those not in agreement with their schemes to own and control everything and everyone remains the same regardless of the flavor of the month label.
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| January 9th, 2006 09:02 PM |
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| jb |
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lotsajizz wrote:
my people are US citizens/Americans
what is YOUR definition of "my people"?
seems to be a little broader than mine
He made , imo, disparaging and anti-semeic remarks about my people..."my" being Jewish people.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N04386817.htm |
| January 9th, 2006 09:06 PM |
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CM look here's the deal. In the last presidential election inside Venuzuela less than 25% of registered voters were counted. He won by over 70% of the vote! Shocker! This can all be looked up and verified should you choose to do that. This guy has gone on record saying that he would love to see the USA destroyed. This can also be backed up. He has stated his goal of arms deals with Iran,Cuba,and China. What part of this has anything to do with liberal vs conservative?!?
He is a dictator plain and simple! I will not coddle him. Or pretend that he means well. He does not mean my family,my nation,or my way of life well. Quite to the contrary.
Now please tell me why this thug gets a pass from you? Is it simply because he hates Bush? He firmly believes in the redistribution of wealth as does any socialist. He has done just that at the point of many guns. Yet you still defend him? I guess I'm just not enlightened enough to appreciate his good qualities. Perhaps that's because once I hear some madman declare his desire to see my country eliminated from the map I tend to stop listening.
Riffy |
| January 9th, 2006 09:23 PM |
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| lotsajizz |
the strawman cometh
Riffy always think its better picking apart what he wishes was said rather than arguing what was actually said anyway
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| January 9th, 2006 09:38 PM |
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| Riffhard |
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lotsajizz wrote:
the strawman cometh
Riffy always think its better picking apart what he wishes was said rather than arguing what was actually said anyway
WTF are you talking about jizzy? I am simply stating why I loath Chavez. In this particular case it has nothing to do with liberal vs conservative. At least not from my side of this issue.
Now I would happily engage in that argument,but this has nothing to do with that. Chavez is a dictator,and to pretend otherwise shows either an incredible lack of fact checking or an insane hatered of Bush. Simply because this guy Chavez hates Bush as well is no reason to support him. Now I know the old line-the enemy of my enemy is my friend-but,in this case that is just absurd.
You may hate Bush all you want. Go for it. No sweat to me,but if you are going to carry Chavez's water perhaps you should read what the guy thinks of your country.
Bottom line from my side of the argument is this. Chavez is a dictator,and Belafonte is an angry old has been. They make a perfect match.
Riffy |
| January 9th, 2006 09:44 PM |
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| jb |
He is not a friend of my people either...I am Jew first!!!! Zion shall be ours!!!! |
