| 28th December 2006 10:27 AM |
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| glencar |
Clearly the pardon was the wrong thing to do. The American people made THAT plain! |
| 28th December 2006 10:49 AM |
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| Riffhard |
quote:
lotsajizz wrote:
LOL!!! 1964 son!
Jizzy you know what I meant! I meant that he was not elected when he first assumed office after the assination of JFK. Perhaps I should have been more clear. I even tried to ammend that first post to avoid confusion. I thought it was rather well known that LBJ got elected in 1964. Shit son surely you don't think that I would forget Barry Goldwater!? Or "The Speech" that elevated the greatest president of the last one hundred years(Reagan) to national prominance?! C'mon now!
Bucky thank you for pointing out my mistake regarding Ford's roll as congressman. He was in the House not the Senate. I got that wrong. Still Ford is the only recent president to hold the office after spending time in congress.
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| 28th December 2006 10:55 AM |
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| glencar |
This year all the Dems who have any chance are in the Senate so that might change. Romney's the only outsider with a chance. |
| 28th December 2006 10:58 AM |
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| glencar |
Dingy Harry ain't makin' any effort!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061228/ap_on_go_co/ford_senate_leader |
| 28th December 2006 11:07 AM |
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| Riffhard |
quote:
glencar wrote:
Dingy Harry ain't makin' any effort!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061228/ap_on_go_co/ford_senate_leader
You have got to be kidding me?! The majority leader in the senate is going to miss a former president's funeral?! Imagine how the press would have a field day if it were a Republican leader missing Carter's funeral. That is pathetic and inexcusable. Machu Pichu? Yeah Dingy that's a great idea! Geesh!
Riffy |
| 28th December 2006 11:09 AM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
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glencar wrote:
This year all the Dems who have any chance are in the Senate so that might change. Romney's the only outsider with a chance.
For now ... I'm voting for Biden. |
| 28th December 2006 11:09 AM |
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| glencar |
Zackly. Dingy is scummy. Notice Betty didn't bother returning his call. |
| 28th December 2006 11:10 AM |
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| glencar |
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Ten Thousand Motels wrote:
For now ... I'm voting for Biden.
Too much hot air. I'll vote GOP no matter what. It's only a question of howe much enthusiasm I'll have. |
| 28th December 2006 11:23 AM |
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| rasputin56 |
Romney? Please. The dribblers who chanted flip-flop about Kerry will love Romney not to mention he's one of them there Mormons.
Harry Reid's not the Majority Leader yet. And Biden's full of shit.
[Edited by rasputin56] |
| 28th December 2006 11:29 AM |
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| glencar |
He's tacky even if he's not yet the Majority Leader. And dingy. I hope no sacrifices are made at Macchu Piccu for his sake! |
| 28th December 2006 11:37 AM |
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| Riffhard |
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rasputin56 wrote:
Romney? Please. The dribblers who chanted flip-flop about Kerry will love Romney not to mention he's one of them there Mormons.
Harry Reid's not the Majority Leader yet. And Biden's full of shit.
[Edited by rasputin56]
Not a majority leader yet? C'mon now Raspy you are arguing semantics here at best. You have got to admit that his absence is pathetic. Machu Pichu? Let's just see how much hot water he gets for this stupid idea. I'll be willing to bet that the major media will give him a complete pass. The only way they will touch this story is if the Drudge linked article gets any legs. CBS,CNN,NYT,MSNBC they will all roll over on this story. ABC and NBC,while only marginally better,may give this story a brief blurb and that will be it. Any takers? Now imagine if it were a Republican blowing off Carter's funeral? There would be a full court press on the "lack of decency",and "the partisan contempt!" of the Republican leadership! Let's just wait and see how the press plays Dingy Harry's choice here.
Riffy
PS-Yes,Biden is a total joke,and I agree that Romney has fliped and flopped on many issues. The Morman aspect is the least of his problems. |
| 28th December 2006 11:51 AM |
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| Jeep |
Gerald Ford will be remembered mainly for that :
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| 28th December 2006 11:54 AM |
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| Ten Thousand Motels |
>PS-Yes,Biden is a total joke<
Maybe so. But he's got 10X the IQ of Dubya....no make that 20. |
| 28th December 2006 11:54 AM |
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| rasputin56 |
Seriously, who cares whether Reid or anyone else for that matter shows up for Ford's Farewell Tour anyways? Non-story, but I guess there has to be something if not everyone bows down before another dead Republican. But I do love the "liberal media will hush it up" and the upcoming faux indignation thing by those talking heads on the right will be fun to watch. Again, non-story. |
| 28th December 2006 12:13 PM |
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Seriously, who cares whether Reid or anyone else for that matter shows up for Ford's Farewell Tour anyways? Non-story, but I guess there has to be something if not everyone bows down before another dead Republican. But I do love the "liberal media will hush it up" and the upcoming faux indignation thing by those talking heads on the right will be fun to watch. Again, non-story.
You're right it is a non story,but it would certainly be a story if the shoe were on the other foot. Regardless of what you may think,it is inexcusable for Ried to blow off the funeral of a former president given his soon to be leadership position. I could care less if it were a foremr Republican president or a Democrat. It's just not done. I would be very curious to know how many Senate Majority Leaders have ever done such a thing? I'd be willing to bet that Dingy Harry is the first.
Oh,and did you hear about the blind study done at the Columbia School of Journalism last year Raspy? Over 100 students and faculty were shown blind news transcripts from various media outlets. Guess which network was determined to cover the news in the most balanced fashion? Go on guess. That's right Fox! It must have killed them to have to release the findings of that study! LOL!
While Fox certainly trends towards the right(a bussiness decision btw),they still consistently bring both sides of the argument to the table in their news coverage. That almost never happens on CNN! Just last night I was watching a story about global warming on CNN. They never once told the story from the perspective of the hundreds of scientists who say that global warming is nothing more than a climatic cyclical pattern. They did,however,try and pin global warming on Bush's enviromental policies! In six short years Bush has managed to almost completly destroy the planet! Or so CNN would have so many mental midgets believe.
Riffy |
| 28th December 2006 12:23 PM |
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| gimmekeef |
Its a state funeral photo op....all the smarms will be there full force....Ford was a decent man imho put in an impossible position....DEM/GOP?...there all assholes |
| 28th December 2006 12:24 PM |
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| glencar |
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/483757p-407239c.html |
| 28th December 2006 12:28 PM |
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| rasputin56 |
LMAO! Yeah, run with that "fair and balanced" thing.
100's of scientists? Good one. |
| 28th December 2006 01:03 PM |
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| sirmoonie |
quote:
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PS-Yes,Biden is a total joke,and I agree that Romney has fliped and flopped on many issues. The Morman aspect is the least of his problems.
If this country is ever insane enough to elect a fucking Mormon as president, I'll rent buses for everyone here at RO - no matter their allegedical politicism - so we can storm the Mexican border and set up a remote insurgency base in the Chihuahua desert and carry on the fight from there. I'll need people like you on those buses, Riffy. |
| 28th December 2006 01:14 PM |
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| gypsy |
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If this country is ever insane enough to elect a fucking Mormon as president, I'll rent buses for everyone here at RO - no matter their allegedical politicism - so we can storm the Mexican border and set up a remote insurgency base in the Chihuahua desert and carry on the fight from there. I'll need people like you on those buses, Riffy.
A Nazi has a better chance. |
| 28th December 2006 01:20 PM |
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quote:
Riffhard wrote:
It's funny,but over at another nameless faceless Stones' messageboard they are slamming Ford for granting Nixon that pardon! LOL! Gee fellas what do ya think about Clinton pardoning major coke dealers and criminals from the FBI's Most Wanted list,huh?! I mean Mark Rich alone was the most corrupt bastard ever granted a presidential pardon,but you don't hear a peep about Pardon Gate from the Kool-Aid drinking morons over there! Funny,huh? Mark Rich the same guy that gave Hillary "Cankles" Clinton's Senate run a huge boost with soft money,not to mention the Clinton Presidential Library that he helped build in exchange for his insane pardon!
Riffy
I knew we could count on someone to find some excuse to bring up Clinton as if one wrong excuses the other. Quite a common form of deflection that comes up in every single political thread. The posters change but the talking points remain the same. And Clinton isn't the only President to ever pardon major drug dealers.
Not really sure what bearing Pardongate has on the Ford obituaries anyway. |
| 28th December 2006 01:24 PM |
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| rasputin56 |
Just because...
Guess who helped get Rich his pardon?
Ol' Boot Scooter Libby. |
| 28th December 2006 01:27 PM |
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| Dan |
**best obituary ever**
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=125360
Gerald Goddamned Ford
He Was a Terrible President But He Sure Did Live a Long, Long Time
BY PAUL CONSTANT
Not long after he became President, Gerald Goddamned Ford took a
vacation with his family to Vail, Colorado, for some skiing. According
to Paul F. Boller's book Presidential Anecdotes, while the Ford
family ate dinner, one of their dogs took a shit in the lodge. An
attendant ran over with a rag to clean up the dog shit. Ford
intercepted the attendant, took the rag from him, and reportedly said,
"No man should have to clean up after another man's dog." Then
Ford cleaned up his own dog's shit from the rented house's floor.
It's no Gettysburg Address, of course, and it's ironic, too,
considering that Ford spent his whole White House career trying to
clean up other people's shit, but it's typical Ford: the kind of
story that, at first, makes you think he's a great guy, but then you
realize: He's just a schlub, running to and fro with a shit-stained
rag, unaware of or, worse, unconcerned with his place in history.
Gerald Ford died on Tuesday, December 26, 2006. He was 93 years old,
making him the longest-lived former president. Gerald Goddamned Ford
was a virtual treasure trove of oddball presidential trivia: the only
President who never won an election, the only president who survived
two assassination attempts made by women (Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme,
a Charles Manson acolyte, fired one shot at him in 1975, and two and a
half weeks later, the Patty Hearst-obsessed Sara Jane Moore squeezed
off another round that injured a bystander), the only president who was
often referred to by the media as "a good guy," a "Boy Scout,"
and "Mr. Nice Guy."
Born Leslie Lynch King Jr. on July 14, 1913, Gerald Goddamned Ford
renamed himself after his stepfather and quickly proved to be the kind
of man who rises to the top through no fault of his own. True, he had
his talents-he was a star football player at University of Michigan
and fought with the Navy in World War II-but even he probably
couldn't believe his luck when he was elected to Congress and stayed
there for nearly a quarter century, somehow getting elected Minority
Leader on his nice-guy merits. President Lyndon Johnson was befuddled
by his rise to power, famously saying that Gerald Goddamned Ford "is
so dumb he can't walk and fart at the same time." His congressional
career is most notable for his time served on the Warren Commission,
where, partially thanks to Ford, JFK's assassination was quickly
glossed over and forgotten.
When Nixon's vice president, Spiro Agnew, resigned in disgrace, Ford
was nominated precisely because he seemed innocuous. Compared to the
dark and brooding Nixon, Ford seemed like a Golden Boy-perhaps the
kind of feel-good V.P. who could make the whole country forget about
the Nixon Administration's dirty pool.
Ahem.
When Nixon resigned, Ford took power and people still couldn't stop
talking about how aw-shucks-golly nice Ford was-they even pinched his
widdle cheek and cooed over how honest he was when, in his first State
of the Union address, he clunkily announced, "The State of the Union
is not good."
The first month of Gerald Goddamned Ford's presidency, as detailed in
Barry Werth's recent book 31 Days, turned out to be one of the
biggest disasters in American history. Ford failed the one mission that
mattered: not pardoning Richard Nixon. The only thing he had to do to
come out of the presidency with a legacy was not pardon Richard Nixon.
It took Ford a month to fuck that up and then he dared to announce that
"our long national nightmare is over."
That's bullshit, and we'll get to precisely why in a moment. First,
it has to be said that the stench of Gerald Goddamned Ford, the
Presidential Shitrag, lingers in the White House to this day. Though he
opted to not nominate the odious George H. W. Bush as his vice
president, choosing instead Nelson Rockefeller, Ford hired men whose
names we're still living with today: Dick Cheney replaced Donald
Rumsfeld as Chief of Staff after Ford named Rumsfeld Secretary of
Defense. It was Ford that gave both these men toe-holds in the
Executive Branch, positions that paid off big for them and, um, for us,
25 years later.
Here is Gerald Goddamned Ford's legacy, as Mark Updegrove's trifle
of a book Second Acts: Presidential Lives and Legacies After the White
House documents: Ford was the first post-president to cash in on his
celebrity. Soon after he was defeated by Jimmy Carter in 1976, Ford was
making a million dollars a year in endorsements and speeches and
honorary titles. He even appeared on Dynasty, for fuck's sake. Ford
once said, "I think it's progress that the presidency has been
humanized," and it's telling of his evil heart that to humanize the
presidency meant to squeeze every single penny that he could out of the
office to which he was never elected before finally succumbing to
pneumonia and heart failure and practically every single ailment that
God could muster.
Still, today the newspapers coo over how Gerald Goddamned Ford saved
America from the "long national nightmare" of Watergate, many of
them using Ted Goddamned Kennedy's regrettable 2001 quote, from when
Gerald Ford won a John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award.
"Time has a way of clarifying past events," Teddy said, "and now
we see that President Ford was right."
This, of course, is bullshit. What Gerald Ford saved us from was a
nation where Richard Nixon went to jail or committed suicide, a nation
where politicians would have to face real legal consequences for their
actions, a nation where politicians are responsible for the people
under them, and to the people who voted for them. What Gerald Goddamned
Ford gave to America is the wave of cynicism that has dominated
politics and ensured wave after wave of ever-worsening Republican
presidents, preying on our basest fears.
Our long national nightmare didn't end with Ford. It began with him.
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| 28th December 2006 02:13 PM |
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quote:
Riffhard wrote:
I should amend that last post. There have been other non-elected presidents in US history. Obviously LBJ was not elected to the office of president,but Ford was not elected to the executive branch at all,and he is the only president that holds that distinction.
Riffy
you answered and confirmed it correctly. LBJ was elected into the VP office, so when JFK was killed he took over having been elected to possible serve as Prez too. Like you said with Ford, he was appointed to fill in as VP and then took over after Nixon resigned... Making him non- elected to serve as President... Ford was the best President we had in the 70's, w/o a doubt! Maybe we should do this more often. |
| 28th December 2006 02:37 PM |
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| Saint Sway |
Ford's kid got it on with Bianca
I'm sure the old man was proud |
| 28th December 2006 04:59 PM |
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| glencar |
Yeah that son had 'em lined up on the White House lawn. Wasn't he in a soap opera at one point? |
| 28th December 2006 05:02 PM |
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| glencar |
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0285885/ |
| 28th December 2006 07:07 PM |
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| texile |
i keep thinking of chevy chase. |
| 28th December 2006 07:08 PM |
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| glencar |
Chevy Chase is toast. |
| 28th December 2006 10:27 PM |
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| Joey |
quote:
glencar wrote:
Chevy Chase is toast.
It snowed in Sedona this afternoon and I was forced to drink my Margarita INSIDE at the Oak Creek Tavern .
Why ?!
WHY ?!
Jercee' |
