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Topic: Songs about specific women Return to archive Page: 1 2
19th December 2007 07:54 PM
Sioux
quote:
sssoul wrote:
Pattie Boyd was apparently also the inspiration for Mystifies Me and Cancel Everything - maybe Breathe On Me as well (i may be misremembering that one, though) - she absolutely has inspired miles and miles of glorious music.

and as for Angie ... yeah it's Keith who came up with the music/name; it's Nick Kent who started the story that it "really means Anita-i-need-you", and he got the wrong song (try Happy, Nick). Keith's said he composed Angie for his daughter, just like he composed Wild Horses for his son. (she was christened Dandelion Angela, and apparently was called Angela/Angie right from the start.)
[Edited by sssoul]



Hey, really interesting... I had heard that Wild Horses was either for Marianne {when she was in Australia to film
Ned Kelly with Mick--and she said she "saw" Brian on the
sidewalk below, and she wanted to join him on "the other
side", and then she almost OD'd. I read that when she came
to, she saw Mick and he said how worried he'd been about
her and she said "Wild horses couldn't drag me away..."
Also heard that it was about Anita when Keith had to leave
her to go on tour. All that info is in one or another of
the many old Stones' books.

Love hearing all the info/theories..
19th December 2007 07:55 PM
Sioux
quote:
guitarman53 wrote:


Thank you Sioux for your imput, you know a lot about the subject.



Thanks guitarman... There were quite a few songs written
about Jane Asher too, but I left them out, since there is
a general dislike for Paul Mc. here!
19th December 2007 10:04 PM
The jinn, my friend.
quote:
TampabayStone wrote:


Thanks for going the extra mile. I've seen it before, but it's still great...I wonder how many books she sold off that show.


I am sure you meant this statement as interest in production.
I have watched the Dancing in the Streets video and there is a specific kind of closeness that is upheld within the video
However, I am bewildered when a person/s from a consumer endorsed culture shame (a) person/s endeavoring fair trade. I do not see where is shame for her to capitalize off something the very people she was associated with capitalized, their own selves. Her own self and experience is for her to capitalize. I do not believe she ever was or attempted to an ascetic lifestyle to any degree, nor do I believe did her notable associates. Even if she did practice ascetic lifestyle to any degree, she lives in a consumer-based society. It would be wrong not channel gifted occurrences to suitable endeavors and to self-sufficiency.
19th December 2007 10:47 PM
TampabayStone
quote:
The jinn, my friend. wrote:

I am sure you meant this statement as interest in production.
I have watched the Dancing in the Streets video and there is a specific kind of closeness that is upheld within the video
However, I am bewildered when a person/s from a consumer endorsed culture shame (a) person/s endeavoring fair trade. I do not see where is shame for her to capitalize off something the very people she was associated with capitalized, their own selves. Her own self and experience is for her to capitalize. I do not believe she ever was or attempted to an ascetic lifestyle to any degree, nor do I believe did her notable associates. Even if she did practice ascetic lifestyle to any degree, she lives in a consumer-based society. It would be wrong not channel gifted occurrences to suitable endeavors and to self-sufficiency.




This one I understand!!! I agree witcha!

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20th December 2007 12:49 AM
sssoul >> I had heard that Wild Horses was either for Marianne <<

well ... i'm aware of Marianne's theory, but both the songwriters have stated that it was Keith who came up with the music & refrain. of course Mick may have been thinking of Marianne when he came up with the rest of the lyrics, just like he may have been thinking of someone particular when he came up with the rest of Angie. or not. there's pretty ample evidence that both these songwriters are quite capable of producing non-autobiographical lyrics.

[Edited by sssoul]
20th December 2007 05:22 AM
FotiniD Very interesting thread, always love the hidden emotions / stories behind songs

quote:
Gazza wrote:
...and Jagger's solo 'Evening Gown' for Jerry, for example.



Didn't know that. Evening Gown has some great lyrics, imo. Very blue.
20th December 2007 09:54 AM
glimmertwinfan Don't forget about one of my favorite tongue-in-cheek tunes - Claudine. Could they have been any more direct than that one?
20th December 2007 10:49 AM
Gazza Indeed. So 'direct' to the point it was litigious and couldnt be released!
20th December 2007 10:51 AM
speedfreakjive on Exile most of the songs about women are surely either about Anita (Lovin Cup, Soul Survivor?) or Bianca (Let It Loose), however there is one tune, Sweet Black Angel, which is obviously about a female civil right campaigner
[Edited by speedfreakjive]
20th December 2007 11:06 AM
guitarman53

The rest of Angie Bowie talking about the song "Angie"
20th December 2007 11:17 AM
JohnLeeHacker
quote:
speedfreakjive wrote:
on Exile most of the songs about women are surely either about Anita (Lovin Cup, Soul Survivor?) or Bianca (Let It Loose), however there is one tune which is obviously about a female civil right campaigner



Angie Davis..?
21st December 2007 07:33 PM
texile i always believed jagger's songs are always about his women...
he loves keith - but's he's ruled by his sexual and romantic obsessions.
all the women in his life have inspired some great music.
has anyone detected any l'wren in the music yet?
21st December 2007 07:37 PM
texile
quote:
speedfreakjive wrote:
on Exile most of the songs about women are surely either about Anita (Lovin Cup, Soul Survivor?) or Bianca (Let It Loose), however there is one tune, Sweet Black Angel, which is obviously about a female civil right campaigner
[Edited by speedfreakjive]



that's always been my theory -
although i always thought shine a light could about the last stages of the marianne period.
and soul surivor is like a war - two people trying to overpower each other in a relationship...sounds like mick and bianca.
agree about let it loose thought - it was the beginning of an intense saga.
and angie bowie is delusional.
23rd December 2007 01:16 PM
Gazza
quote:
texile wrote:
i always believed jagger's songs are always about his women...
he loves keith - but's he's ruled by his sexual and romantic obsessions.
all the women in his life have inspired some great music.
has anyone detected any l'wren in the music yet?



Oh No, Not You Again?
23rd December 2007 03:36 PM
glencar Any songs about Carla Bruni?
23rd December 2007 03:54 PM
Sioux
quote:
Gazza wrote:


Oh No, Not You Again?



Ha ha! I think that's just a great song title anyway...
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